It blows my mind that there isn't more agitation about the school issue

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You have a mental problem, OP. You really do. Most others don't agree with you. Those making the decisions also don't agree with you. What psychological issue do you have that you just can't accept that?


You have no way of knowing most others disagree with OP, and your over the top and nasty response does your position no favors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People aren't agitating because most people do not care about the education of kids at all. It's fairly obvious the years of upcoming DL (and do not fool yourselves into thinking it will be less than that) will have a devastating and wildly disparate educational impact. But the sad reality is that most people in this country do not care, regardless of whether they have kids or not.

If we cared about the education of children, reopening schools would be prioritized over bars and restaurants. People wouldn't go to their beach vacations and be advocating for DL at the same time.

But we don't care about education. So it's horrifically bad DL for years. Most kids will be permanently behind educationally.

Yes, this country just doesn't care. And, when needed, it can always poach a bunch of Chinese immunologists, Russian chemists and Indian programmers, at a low cost.
Disgusting.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, the people driving me bonkers are the ones who are myopically making this be about school reopening instead of about the fact that THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS HAD THE LEAST EFFECTIVE COVID RESPONSE IN THE ENTIRE DEVELOPED WORLD.

School closures are a symptom of a much, much larger problem we're facing right now. Focus your anger on the root cause, and you'll get a lot more support.

Also, IDGAF about pods.


This. If you are mad, you need to be directing your anger towards federal response. Local jurisdictions won't be able to provide services like schools without significance assistance and an all-out effort at the federal level.
Think of the massive effort that happened during the Great Depression and then World War II. It's going to take that kind of investment and commitment.
Anonymous
This is getting legitimately funny. How are there so many adults out there who can’t deal with some minor adversity and move on? I can barely believe most of you have jobs. What happens when something goes wrong at work—you just sit there paralyzed for months, throwing a temper tantrum?

It’s a global pandemic. We did worse than literally every country on earth at managing it. Corporate America is not back. Government is not back. Pro sports are not back, at least not successfully (and they’ve thrown millions of dollars at it with billions at stake). So the flipping schools are only kind of open for a year? Completely predictable, and so what. Your kids will be fine. Make the decisions that work for you and move the F on.

Also don’t be so thin-skinned about what other morons on the internet think about your pod. Who cares? Again, you’re adults. Grow up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is getting legitimately funny. How are there so many adults out there who can’t deal with some minor adversity and move on? I can barely believe most of you have jobs. What happens when something goes wrong at work—you just sit there paralyzed for months, throwing a temper tantrum?

It’s a global pandemic. We did worse than literally every country on earth at managing it. Corporate America is not back. Government is not back. Pro sports are not back, at least not successfully (and they’ve thrown millions of dollars at it with billions at stake). So the flipping schools are only kind of open for a year? Completely predictable, and so what. Your kids will be fine. Make the decisions that work for you and move the F on.

Also don’t be so thin-skinned about what other morons on the internet think about your pod. Who cares? Again, you’re adults. Grow up.


Hi bubble man. Yes many are actually out of work. And literally this weekend unemployment checks lapsed for 30 million families. So why don’t you tell them how this just just a minor bit of adversity, especially when they couldnt even accept a new job because they have to watch kids who are not in school.
Anonymous
I think it stems from a lot of people not actually believing suburban elites who insist that it’s unsafe to send kids to school for hybrid instruction. The pods smack of opportunity hoarding and gaming the system — or of privileged whites striving mightily to, well, maintain their privilege. It’s out of sync wit the times and the proper focus on inky it biases and systemic racism. So too are the articles about privileged people finding their happy places in beach town second homes and baking sourdough bread. It has been a deeply sad and horrendous time due our country. Very few people knew how rotten elites have become.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think it stems from a lot of people not actually believing suburban elites who insist that it’s unsafe to send kids to school for hybrid instruction. The pods smack of opportunity hoarding and gaming the system — or of privileged whites striving mightily to, well, maintain their privilege. It’s out of sync wit the times and the proper focus on inky it biases and systemic racism. So too are the articles about privileged people finding their happy places in beach town second homes and baking sourdough bread. It has been a deeply sad and horrendous time due our country. Very few people knew how rotten elites have become.


^ implicit
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t actually care what you do but I ttake issue with your implication that caring about your children requires spending 75/hour on tutors.
I may get a weekly math tutor (1 hour/week) for ny kids but otherwise plan on letting them do distance learning. It’s not ideal but it’s fine. At the end of the day, kids goof off in any setting (you just don’t see if when they are at school) and learning really has to be self-directed or self-motivated to be effective.
I do strongly believe they should have let schools open for kids with extreme special needs, in very small group settings.


This is just the going rate. I learned this past spring that my particular kids need someone supervising them most of the time and I can't do that and work at the same time. Neither can my husband, who makes a great deal more money than I do. We can't sacrifice his job if we want to stay in our house and we can't sacrifice mine if I don't want to jeopardize my career and I don't. I guess most people think I should because I'm the woman, though, right?


Why can’t your kids grow up, get some maturity and rise to the occasion?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t actually care what you do but I ttake issue with your implication that caring about your children requires spending 75/hour on tutors.
I may get a weekly math tutor (1 hour/week) for ny kids but otherwise plan on letting them do distance learning. It’s not ideal but it’s fine. At the end of the day, kids goof off in any setting (you just don’t see if when they are at school) and learning really has to be self-directed or self-motivated to be effective.
I do strongly believe they should have let schools open for kids with extreme special needs, in very small group settings.


This is just the going rate. I learned this past spring that my particular kids need someone supervising them most of the time and I can't do that and work at the same time. Neither can my husband, who makes a great deal more money than I do. We can't sacrifice his job if we want to stay in our house and we can't sacrifice mine if I don't want to jeopardize my career and I don't. I guess most people think I should because I'm the woman, though, right?


Why can’t your kids grow up, get some maturity and rise to the occasion?


That’s right, next I’ll also tell my 5-year old to pick up a paper route and do piecework at home to support the family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It blows my mind that people are so angry at schools / teacher / administrators and not directing their ire at our government who has failed us completely AT EVERY TURN.



Yes. This.

Don't rail at the schools for closing. Rail at the health department for not setting clear metrics for school opening and the lack of testing and contact tracing.
Rail at the governor for letting bars and restaurants open which is leading to more cases.
Rail at the feds for not setting a coordinated nationwide response to stop the virus and leaving us all mired in a patchwork of state and local regulations regarding masks and openings--a hotspot anywhere in the country has the potential to lead to cases anywhere unless state borders are closed.

And instead of crying about what they will do for childcare without schools, how about pushing local, state and federal officials to help solve this problem, including pushing employers to provide childcare as a benefit instead. Look for an alternate solution instead of having a temper tantrum and blaming school boards, superintendents and teachers.

(I am well aware that many parents do need childcare while they work outside the home at essential businesses and do not have many options, but my experience is that it is not those parents who are melting down. Those parents are using their time and effort to finding actual solutions to that problem instead of just posting rants on social media.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People aren't agitating because most people do not care about the education of kids at all. It's fairly obvious the years of upcoming DL (and do not fool yourselves into thinking it will be less than that) will have a devastating and wildly disparate educational impact. But the sad reality is that most people in this country do not care, regardless of whether they have kids or not.

If we cared about the education of children, reopening schools would be prioritized over bars and restaurants. People wouldn't go to their beach vacations and be advocating for DL at the same time.

But we don't care about education. So it's horrifically bad DL for years. Most kids will be permanently behind educationally.



Actually, people aren’t agitating because most want to continue working from home and now employers can’t require that they return.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is getting legitimately funny. How are there so many adults out there who can’t deal with some minor adversity and move on? I can barely believe most of you have jobs. What happens when something goes wrong at work—you just sit there paralyzed for months, throwing a temper tantrum?

It’s a global pandemic. We did worse than literally every country on earth at managing it. Corporate America is not back. Government is not back. Pro sports are not back, at least not successfully (and they’ve thrown millions of dollars at it with billions at stake). So the flipping schools are only kind of open for a year? Completely predictable, and so what. Your kids will be fine. Make the decisions that work for you and move the F on.

Also don’t be so thin-skinned about what other morons on the internet think about your pod. Who cares? Again, you’re adults. Grow up.


Hi bubble man. Yes many are actually out of work. And literally this weekend unemployment checks lapsed for 30 million families. So why don’t you tell them how this just just a minor bit of adversity, especially when they couldnt even accept a new job because they have to watch kids who are not in school.

DP here. This is all true, but I'm pretty sure the out-of-work people who lost their UI income aren't the ones on DCUM whining that their feelings got hurt because someone criticized their decision to hire a tutor!
Anonymous
What is the actual fear here about the education being slower this year than usual? That your kids will be "behind" other kids (despite the fact that everyone's experiencing this)? That they might not be able to catch all the way up to where other cohorts of kids have traditionally been by the time they graduate high school (and that those 12th-grade skills seem crucially important to you for success in life)? Or what?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It blows my mind that people are so angry at schools / teacher / administrators and not directing their ire at our government who has failed us completely AT EVERY TURN.


I just expect nothing from the administration at this point. They are Terrible and do not care. At all. The only hope is November and I already know how I plan to vote.
Anonymous
“ Actually, people aren’t agitating because most want to continue working from home and now employers can’t require that they return.”

Maybe a little bit this. Plus that I kind of want my kids to go back and kind of don’t die to worry about it. The idea that the decision is out of my hands and I just need to cope makes me feel better than when I had to pick.
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