It blows my mind that there isn't more agitation about the school issue

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't it seem to you as if most non-parents (including teachers) expect parents to just suck it up and accept that schools can't open and that our children's educations is going to be lacking this year?

It blows my mind that the same people who rant against reopening schools because of safety ALSO rant against people hiring tutors because of privilege.

What do they want parents to do?! This is not a rhetorical question, I really want to know the answer to this. Pretty much everyone agrees that distance learning in the spring was a disaster for most kids. It certainly wasn't great for my own kids. IF they learned anything (big if), it's because my husband and I took time out of our workdays to teach them.

I hired someone for $75/hr and made the mistake of mentioning this on an online parenting group that I'm in when a question was posted asking how people are planning to work and do online schooling at the same time. Most of these people have younger kids than I do and they expect their daycare centers to be open. They also think public schools should be closed because "there's no way public schools can social distance." Such hypocrites.

We make decent money and we are good at saving. We should sacrifice our kids' educations because...why exactly? Because other people don't make as much money? What are you supposed to use your savings for if not in an emergency?

They think I should give up my job and home school my kids full time (which is what distance learning requires with them - full time supervision to make sure they are actually working and not goofing off) because I'm a woman?

I just want to know what the naysayers want us parents to do. Can't open schools because of Covid, even in states where cases are low (like ours in NY). But you also can't allow parents to hire private teachers because not everyone can do it? Why don't these people care about private schools then? WTF

OP, are you a single mom? If not, you and your spouse have to make some changes. You have to downsize. One of you has to go part time. Something has to change. This is life. You have to adapt. If you don't think you should be the one to go part time, talk to you partner about it. Someone has to make a serious compromise to make this work. Sorry that it is happening this way, but it is. Just accept it and do what you have to do. Life isn't a perfect straight line to the top.

Or, and bear with me here - she could hire a tutor. Which she did. What's the issue with that?

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Anonymous wrote:You have a mental problem, OP. You really do. Most others don't agree with you. Those making the decisions also don't agree with you. What psychological issue do you have that you just can't accept that?

You have no way of knowing most others disagree with OP, and your over the top and nasty response does your position no favors.

Everyone I know disagrees with the OP. Those in charge of the schools also disagree with her. That's a lot.

I can't wait for the fringe nut jobs like Betsy DeVos to go back to being nobodys. January 2021 can't come soon enough. Let normal people reassert than majority say in how things are done, instead of the crazies.

You’re lying. You know you know a lot of people who agree with op. They’re just staying away from you because they know you’re crazy.

OK, Don Jr.

DP. Lady, I am a different poster, and let me tell you, you sound totally nuts.

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OP, new poster here.

I think people are CRAZY for attacking people for hiring a tutor or organizing a nanny share ("pandemic pod"). It is your right to arrange child care as you see fit, and you are smart to think ahead and do it now.

Tempers are high and people are quick to judge you no matter what you do. Best bet is to stay quiet about your child care plans. There's no reason to crowdsource your childcare.

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Anonymous wrote:And this thread, ladies and gentlemen, is why missing a couple of years of school is irrelevant. OP is as dumb as rocks, and likely did not miss several years of school.
.....and is not even able to contemplate the answer that is right in front of her eyes! That, maybe, just maybe, there are parents who do not wish their kids, themselves and their loved ones, and their kids friends to get seriously ill and possibly die or cause someone to die. With that genetic potential, OP's kids are clearly not going to benefit from actually trying to learn anything.

You shoudl go back and reread the post. OP is not complaining about schools not opening. And think about what that says about *your* education and intelligence.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, the people driving me bonkers are the ones who are myopically making this be about school reopening instead of about the fact that THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS HAD THE LEAST EFFECTIVE COVID RESPONSE IN THE ENTIRE DEVELOPED WORLD.

School closures are a symptom of a much, much larger problem we're facing right now. Focus your anger on the root cause, and you'll get a lot more support.

Also, IDGAF about pods.

+1

I'm livid that the schools aren't reopening, but it's because the reason that schools aren't reopening is that our country's response to this pandemic has been terrible in so many ways.

I don't think that schools can safely open now, and that makes me angry, because if we as a country had done a better job they could have. Other countries did the work, and now many of them can reopen their schools, because community spread is controlled and they are dealing with specific outbreaks which can be addressed locally or regionally. We never did the work as a country, and now we're dealing with the predictable fallout and getting pissy about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, the people driving me bonkers are the ones who are myopically making this be about school reopening instead of about the fact that THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS HAD THE LEAST EFFECTIVE COVID RESPONSE IN THE ENTIRE DEVELOPED WORLD.

School closures are a symptom of a much, much larger problem we're facing right now. Focus your anger on the root cause, and you'll get a lot more support.

Also, IDGAF about pods.

+1

I'm livid that the schools aren't reopening, but it's because the reason that schools aren't reopening is that our country's response to this pandemic has been terrible in so many ways.

I don't think that schools can safely open now, and that makes me angry, because if we as a country had done a better job they could have. Other countries did the work, and now many of them can reopen their schools, because community spread is controlled and they are dealing with specific outbreaks which can be addressed locally or regionally. We never did the work as a country, and now we're dealing with the predictable fallout and getting pissy about it.

+2

And if we don't start agitating for the changes we need to make, schools are going to stay closed for a long time. So, I guess it blows my mind that more people aren't agitating for those changes, e.g., more and better testing, contact tracing, shutting down high-risk/(relatively) low benefit things like bars and indoor restaurants and gyms. I have no idea why people are so casual about all of that.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't it seem to you as if most non-parents (including teachers) expect parents to just suck it up and accept that schools can't open and that our children's educations is going to be lacking this year?

It blows my mind that the same people who rant against reopening schools because of safety ALSO rant against people hiring tutors because of privilege.

What do they want parents to do?! This is not a rhetorical question, I really want to know the answer to this. Pretty much everyone agrees that distance learning in the spring was a disaster for most kids. It certainly wasn't great for my own kids. IF they learned anything (big if), it's because my husband and I took time out of our workdays to teach them.

I hired someone for $75/hr and made the mistake of mentioning this on an online parenting group that I'm in when a question was posted asking how people are planning to work and do online schooling at the same time. Most of these people have younger kids than I do and they expect their daycare centers to be open. They also think public schools should be closed because "there's no way public schools can social distance." Such hypocrites.

We make decent money and we are good at saving. We should sacrifice our kids' educations because...why exactly? Because other people don't make as much money? What are you supposed to use your savings for if not in an emergency?

They think I should give up my job and home school my kids full time (which is what distance learning requires with them - full time supervision to make sure they are actually working and not goofing off) because I'm a woman?

I just want to know what the naysayers want us parents to do. Can't open schools because of Covid, even in states where cases are low (like ours in NY). But you also can't allow parents to hire private teachers because not everyone can do it? Why don't these people care about private schools then? WTF

The schools should furlough and cut all staff and costs associated with inperson school (building, bus divers, janitors etc.) and take that money and give it to the parents who are doing the schools job in hosting school at their home or daycare.

+1000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't it seem to you as if most non-parents (including teachers) expect parents to just suck it up and accept that schools can't open and that our children's educations is going to be lacking this year?

It blows my mind that the same people who rant against reopening schools because of safety ALSO rant against people hiring tutors because of privilege.

What do they want parents to do?! This is not a rhetorical question, I really want to know the answer to this. Pretty much everyone agrees that distance learning in the spring was a disaster for most kids. It certainly wasn't great for my own kids. IF they learned anything (big if), it's because my husband and I took time out of our workdays to teach them.

I hired someone for $75/hr and made the mistake of mentioning this on an online parenting group that I'm in when a question was posted asking how people are planning to work and do online schooling at the same time. Most of these people have younger kids than I do and they expect their daycare centers to be open. They also think public schools should be closed because "there's no way public schools can social distance." Such hypocrites.

We make decent money and we are good at saving. We should sacrifice our kids' educations because...why exactly? Because other people don't make as much money? What are you supposed to use your savings for if not in an emergency?

They think I should give up my job and home school my kids full time (which is what distance learning requires with them - full time supervision to make sure they are actually working and not goofing off) because I'm a woman?

I just want to know what the naysayers want us parents to do. Can't open schools because of Covid, even in states where cases are low (like ours in NY). But you also can't allow parents to hire private teachers because not everyone can do it? Why don't these people care about private schools then? WTF

The schools should furlough and cut all staff and costs associated with inperson school (building, bus divers, janitors etc.) and take that money and give it to the parents who are doing the schools job in hosting school at their home or daycare.

+1000

So moms should quit their careers to become paid at-home teachers? That's okay with you? Everyone at schools should continue to get paid, no matter what, so we have less people unemployed and homeless to deal with. The shit is getting ready to hit the fan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have a mental problem, OP. You really do. Most others don't agree with you. Those making the decisions also don't agree with you. What psychological issue do you have that you just can't accept that?

Go away.

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Anonymous wrote:You have a mental problem, OP. You really do. Most others don't agree with you. Those making the decisions also don't agree with you. What psychological issue do you have that you just can't accept that?

What? That schools can't be open and that we shouldn't think that's a big deal? We can't be mad/upset about that as parents?

So you keep saying. And saying and saying and saying and saying and saying. Meanwhile other parents have swallowed the bitter pill and are moving past you to start dealing with reality. What you WANT is not what IS. You have to stop stomping your feet and being mad about it, so you can move forward.

This is what "is" (in your eloquent phrasing) because people like you are COWARDS.

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Anonymous wrote:It blows my mind that the mods of this site have let yet another poster start a thread contains the same message as roughly fifty others

Perfect. Censorship. Bullying. Condemnation. Hypocrisy. FOMO. EQUITY!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't it seem to you as if most non-parents (including teachers) expect parents to just suck it up and accept that schools can't open and that our children's educations is going to be lacking this year?

It blows my mind that the same people who rant against reopening schools because of safety ALSO rant against people hiring tutors because of privilege.

What do they want parents to do?! This is not a rhetorical question, I really want to know the answer to this. Pretty much everyone agrees that distance learning in the spring was a disaster for most kids. It certainly wasn't great for my own kids. IF they learned anything (big if), it's because my husband and I took time out of our workdays to teach them.

I hired someone for $75/hr and made the mistake of mentioning this on an online parenting group that I'm in when a question was posted asking how people are planning to work and do online schooling at the same time. Most of these people have younger kids than I do and they expect their daycare centers to be open. They also think public schools should be closed because "there's no way public schools can social distance." Such hypocrites.

We make decent money and we are good at saving. We should sacrifice our kids' educations because...why exactly? Because other people don't make as much money? What are you supposed to use your savings for if not in an emergency?

They think I should give up my job and home school my kids full time (which is what distance learning requires with them - full time supervision to make sure they are actually working and not goofing off) because I'm a woman?

I just want to know what the naysayers want us parents to do. Can't open schools because of Covid, even in states where cases are low (like ours in NY). But you also can't allow parents to hire private teachers because not everyone can do it? Why don't these people care about private schools then? WTF

The schools should furlough and cut all staff and costs associated with inperson school (building, bus divers, janitors etc.) and take that money and give it to the parents who are doing the schools job in hosting school at their home or daycare.

+1000

So moms should quit their careers to become paid at-home teachers? That's okay with you? Everyone at schools should continue to get paid, no matter what, so we have less people unemployed and homeless to deal with. The shit is getting ready to hit the fan.

It sure as heck is. These maniacs can keep up the mania in their minds, but there is truly a silent majority whose army head hasn't yet been identified, but the army marches closer to the Rubicon every day.

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Anonymous wrote:You have a mental problem, OP. You really do. Most others don't agree with you. Those making the decisions also don't agree with you. What psychological issue do you have that you just can't accept that?

What? That schools can't be open and that we shouldn't think that's a big deal? We can't be mad/upset about that as parents?

So you keep saying. And saying and saying and saying and saying and saying. Meanwhile other parents have swallowed the bitter pill and are moving past you to start dealing with reality. What you WANT is not what IS. You have to stop stomping your feet and being mad about it, so you can move forward.

This is what "is" (in your eloquent phrasing) because people like you are COWARDS.

That's your opinion; but again many, many, many people and, more importantly, decision makers, disagree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:You have a mental problem, OP. You really do. Most others don't agree with you. Those making the decisions also don't agree with you. What psychological issue do you have that you just can't accept that?

Go away.

You should be yelling that at the virus. It will have just as much impact.