Anyone know what’s up with Maine and tourism?

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Anonymous wrote:As of now it goes through the end of August. But the economic devastation would be severe so many, many people in Maine are looking for other solutions.


yeah this. tourism is their maine industry at this point. I would be really surprised if they don't reach some sort of compromise.
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Anonymous wrote:So you get to your lake house and stay there for two week and have food delivered? Hardly a hardship. Beaches I guess are a little harder but no one swims in the Atlantic that far north until late Aug


OP here. We rented a house on a lake in a really secluded area. But we'd like to be able to go hiking in Acadia too.

Honestly, I think we will go anyway. We'll bring food, get some groceries delivered, spend most of our time at the lake house but occasionally go into Acadia National Park.

I doubt anyone will notice or care.


Hawaii has arrested people for breaking a similar quarantine.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they enforce it. Otherwise, they get the worst of all worlds. They hurt their tourism badly because most people will stay away, but they will still have a decent bit of spread from people like you who think the rules don’t apply to them.

Either have and enforce the quarantine to try to really stop the spread, or let the economy function.


They can't. They even admit this in a bunch of articles I read.


They could, if they want. They could station someone at the entrance to Acadia, for example, I ask you to provide a declaration stating when you entered the state. It would be quite easy to see if someone lied and then prosecute for perjury, in addition to breaking the quarantine.

This would take some man power, but it would be completely feasible to implement if they wanted.


And...you actually think this is something they want to spend money on? That they *should* spend money on at this time?

It's not the plague. You're being really ridiculous for some reason.

Why do you want people to avoid Maine?


I couldn't care less if people visit Maine. (Might this discussion be hurting your rental income?)

You seem to be arguing that the quarantine period is unnecessary. Maybe it is. That really is irrelevant for the argument I am making.

Maine would not need to spend all that much money to enforce the quarantine and, with fines, it might even be revenue neutral. They would simply have to prosecute/fine a handful of people early in the season and make sure that these cases got lots of publicity. That would be enough to scare most people away from violating the quarantine.

Will they do this? I don't know. Should they do this? Again, I am not arguing one way or another. But, if they want to have the quarantine mean something, they could do it relatively easily and with relatively minimal expenditures.
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Can you quarantine for 2 weeks in a hotel?
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Anonymous wrote:Can you quarantine for 2 weeks in a hotel?


You can, but what’s the point of doing that?
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Anonymous wrote:Can you quarantine for 2 weeks in a hotel?


You can, but what’s the point of doing that?


If it's a hotel without a kitchen, that would be a very long 2 weeks.
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MD's governor admitted the other day that the quarantine for out of state visitors was advisory, not mandatory.

I'm not sure how much a quarantine can be enforced in Maine. It may be advisory only rather than legally mandated.
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Anonymous wrote:Can you quarantine for 2 weeks in a hotel?


You can, but what’s the point of doing that?


If it's a hotel without a kitchen, that would be a very long 2 weeks.



We would use Marriott vacation points at a Residence Inn with a full kitchen. We would then hopefully be able to travel a bit and my DC may be eligible to go to her Maine sleepaway camp (if it actually is held) which she loves. We wouldn’t have much of a vacation, but maybe a few days at the beach in Ogunquit.
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Anonymous wrote:MD's governor admitted the other day that the quarantine for out of state visitors was advisory, not mandatory.

I'm not sure how much a quarantine can be enforced in Maine. It may be advisory only rather than legally mandated.


In Maine, it's an executive order enforceable by a $1000 fine or up to 6 months in jail: https://www.maine.gov/governor/mills/sites/maine.gov.governor.mills/files/inline-files/EO%2034.pdf

The interpretation from https://www.maine.gov/dhhs/mecdc/infectious-disease/epi/airborne/coronavirus.shtml#travel is:
What do I do if I'm traveling or returning to Maine from out of state?

It is mandated that all out-of-state travelers coming into Maine, as well as Maine residents returning to Maine, complete a 14-day quarantine upon arrival. This means:

You need to arrive with enough food for 14 days or arrange to have food delivered to you. You cannot go out to grocery stores.
Stay at home. You cannot go out to public places.
Avoid contact with others, especially those who are at high risk of severe COVID-19 illness.

There is no order to quarantine for people who make short trips back and forth across the border for work. Travel should be limited to essential trips.
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Anonymous wrote:MD's governor admitted the other day that the quarantine for out of state visitors was advisory, not mandatory.

I'm not sure how much a quarantine can be enforced in Maine. It may be advisory only rather than legally mandated.



It’s tough to enforce — if you were in a hotel, I would think that would be easy to keep tabs on your movements:

https://www.newscentermaine.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/its-not-easy-to-enforce-police-talk-about-14-day-quarantine-for-out-of-state-mainers-during-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic/97-5a09864f-6f42-407a-9c23-20f60bf04e0b
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Anonymous wrote:MD's governor admitted the other day that the quarantine for out of state visitors was advisory, not mandatory.

I'm not sure how much a quarantine can be enforced in Maine. It may be advisory only rather than legally mandated.


In Maine, it's an executive order enforceable by a $1000 fine or up to 6 months in jail: https://www.maine.gov/governor/mills/sites/maine.gov.governor.mills/files/inline-files/EO%2034.pdf

The interpretation from https://www.maine.gov/dhhs/mecdc/infectious-disease/epi/airborne/coronavirus.shtml#travel is:
What do I do if I'm traveling or returning to Maine from out of state?

It is mandated that all out-of-state travelers coming into Maine, as well as Maine residents returning to Maine, complete a 14-day quarantine upon arrival. This means:

You need to arrive with enough food for 14 days or arrange to have food delivered to you. You cannot go out to grocery stores.
Stay at home. You cannot go out to public places.
Avoid contact with others, especially those who are at high risk of severe COVID-19 illness.

There is no order to quarantine for people who make short trips back and forth across the border for work. Travel should be limited to essential trips.


Given the breadth of the order and no carve out for grocery stores, which could be a convenient excuse if caught out, this wouldn’t be that hard to enforce of the state were so inclined.
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Anonymous wrote:Can you quarantine for 2 weeks in a hotel?


You can, but what’s the point of doing that?


If it's a hotel without a kitchen, that would be a very long 2 weeks.



We would use Marriott vacation points at a Residence Inn with a full kitchen. We would then hopefully be able to travel a bit and my DC may be eligible to go to her Maine sleepaway camp (if it actually is held) which she loves. We wouldn’t have much of a vacation, but maybe a few days at the beach in Ogunquit.


Beach days during your 2 week quarantine? While you could potentially do this in a socially responsible way, it would be a violation.
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Anonymous wrote:MD's governor admitted the other day that the quarantine for out of state visitors was advisory, not mandatory.

I'm not sure how much a quarantine can be enforced in Maine. It may be advisory only rather than legally mandated.



It’s tough to enforce — if you were in a hotel, I would think that would be easy to keep tabs on your movements:

https://www.newscentermaine.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/its-not-easy-to-enforce-police-talk-about-14-day-quarantine-for-out-of-state-mainers-during-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic/97-5a09864f-6f42-407a-9c23-20f60bf04e0b


Thanks for posting this. Not much of a vacation IMO if there's constantly the potential for a talking to from the police or outspoken locals.
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Anonymous wrote:Can you quarantine for 2 weeks in a hotel?


You can, but what’s the point of doing that?


If it's a hotel without a kitchen, that would be a very long 2 weeks.



We would use Marriott vacation points at a Residence Inn with a full kitchen. We would then hopefully be able to travel a bit and my DC may be eligible to go to her Maine sleepaway camp (if it actually is held) which she loves. We wouldn’t have much of a vacation, but maybe a few days at the beach in Ogunquit.


Beach days during your 2 week quarantine? While you could potentially do this in a socially responsible way, it would be a violation.



No, that’s not what I meant. We would quarantine for 2 weeks in Maine hotel. No beach or leaving hotel, if we are in Residence Inn with full kitchen. My DC would then be able to attend camp, and we could afford a few days at beach in Ogunquit after quarantine.
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Anonymous wrote:Can you quarantine for 2 weeks in a hotel?


You can, but what’s the point of doing that?


If it's a hotel without a kitchen, that would be a very long 2 weeks.



We would use Marriott vacation points at a Residence Inn with a full kitchen. We would then hopefully be able to travel a bit and my DC may be eligible to go to her Maine sleepaway camp (if it actually is held) which she loves. We wouldn’t have much of a vacation, but maybe a few days at the beach in Ogunquit.


Beach days during your 2 week quarantine? While you could potentially do this in a socially responsible way, it would be a violation.


Assuming your DC was also coming from out of state, the kid would be subject to the quarantine rules too.


No, that’s not what I meant. We would quarantine for 2 weeks in Maine hotel. No beach or leaving hotel, if we are in Residence Inn with full kitchen. My DC would then be able to attend camp, and we could afford a few days at beach in Ogunquit after quarantine.
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Anonymous wrote:Can you quarantine for 2 weeks in a hotel?


You can, but what’s the point of doing that?


If it's a hotel without a kitchen, that would be a very long 2 weeks.



We would use Marriott vacation points at a Residence Inn with a full kitchen. We would then hopefully be able to travel a bit and my DC may be eligible to go to her Maine sleepaway camp (if it actually is held) which she loves. We wouldn’t have much of a vacation, but maybe a few days at the beach in Ogunquit.


Beach days during your 2 week quarantine? While you could potentially do this in a socially responsible way, it would be a violation.



No, that’s not what I meant. We would quarantine for 2 weeks in Maine hotel. No beach or leaving hotel, if we are in Residence Inn with full kitchen. My DC would then be able to attend camp, and we could afford a few days at beach in Ogunquit after quarantine.


Messed up the format on the previous post.

Assuming your kid is also coming from out of state, he would be subject to the quarantine rules too.
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