22% of MD’s cases and 50% of the deaths are in nursing homes

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This is true in Massachusetts too, which has been reporting this for some time. Nursing homes account for more than 50% of the deaths.

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Anonymous wrote:This is true in Massachusetts too, which has been reporting this for some time. Nursing homes account for more than 50% of the deaths.

Although I don't think it's 22% of the cases - they've got more than 50,000 cases now.

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I want to see percentage of new cases and deaths every day broken out by a) nursing homes and employees b) prisons and employees c) people working in health care services.

I would hypothesize those two categories account for 80% of both categories and another 10% would be people who live with those people. Which would indicate we need to start attacking this virus with a scalpel and not just a sledgehammer. It would also indicate people can stop freaking out about catching it at a supermarket or walking down the street and being passed by a runner.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to see percentage of new cases and deaths every day broken out by a) nursing homes and employees b) prisons and employees c) people working in health care services.

I would hypothesize those two categories account for 80% of both categories and another 10% would be people who live with those people. Which would indicate we need to start attacking this virus with a scalpel and not just a sledgehammer. It would also indicate people can stop freaking out about catching it at a supermarket or walking down the street and being passed by a runner.

I work on a covid floor. At the start, most people who were hospitalized had traveled or been in direct contact with someone who was positive. Now, half of the people we have are from nursing homes. We've had 2 health care workers hospitalized. 2 retail type workers. The rest have been community transmission of some sort.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to see percentage of new cases and deaths every day broken out by a) nursing homes and employees b) prisons and employees c) people working in health care services.

I would hypothesize those two categories account for 80% of both categories and another 10% would be people who live with those people. Which would indicate we need to start attacking this virus with a scalpel and not just a sledgehammer. It would also indicate people can stop freaking out about catching it at a supermarket or walking down the street and being passed by a runner.

I work on a covid floor. At the start, most people who were hospitalized had traveled or been in direct contact with someone who was positive. Now, half of the people we have are from nursing homes. We've had 2 health care workers hospitalized. 2 retail type workers. The rest have been community transmission of some sort.

So what’s your estimate of the percentage coming from community transmission? 40%?

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Anonymous wrote:I want to see percentage of new cases and deaths every day broken out by a) nursing homes and employees b) prisons and employees c) people working in health care services.

I would hypothesize those two categories account for 80% of both categories and another 10% would be people who live with those people. Which would indicate we need to start attacking this virus with a scalpel and not just a sledgehammer. It would also indicate people can stop freaking out about catching it at a supermarket or walking down the street and being passed by a runner.

I work on a covid floor. At the start, most people who were hospitalized had traveled or been in direct contact with someone who was positive. Now, half of the people we have are from nursing homes. We've had 2 health care workers hospitalized. 2 retail type workers. The rest have been community transmission of some sort.

Are these people who are working from home and staying home, except for necessities like grocery shopping? Or is it the nurse who came home and gave it to her husband?

[Anonymous]

How about we get rid of - old people (above 70) and people who have not gone to college - from this country?

[Anonymous]

The data is interesting. Nursing homes: 4406 cases. 476 deaths

Assuming people in nursing homes are over 60.

Standard MD data. Over 60 year old cases: 6465. Deaths. 735

Remove the nursing home cases so people over 60 not in nursing homes. 2059. Deaths. 259
12% death rate. Super high.
But what is weird is that suddenly the group over sixty only account for 10% of the cases. Maybe they don’t get out much or maybe they are more precautious. Who knows...

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Anonymous wrote:How about we get rid of - old people (above 70) and people who have not gone to college - from this country?

How about we get rid of you?

(A person who thinks we need to lift the shutdowns soon and devote all resources on nursing homes).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to see percentage of new cases and deaths every day broken out by a) nursing homes and employees b) prisons and employees c) people working in health care services.

I would hypothesize those two categories account for 80% of both categories and another 10% would be people who live with those people. Which would indicate we need to start attacking this virus with a scalpel and not just a sledgehammer. It would also indicate people can stop freaking out about catching it at a supermarket or walking down the street and being passed by a runner.

I work on a covid floor. At the start, most people who were hospitalized had traveled or been in direct contact with someone who was positive. Now, half of the people we have are from nursing homes. We've had 2 health care workers hospitalized. 2 retail type workers. The rest have been community transmission of some sort.

I would have thought retail workers would have been considered community transmission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The data is interesting. Nursing homes: 4406 cases. 476 deaths

Assuming people in nursing homes are over 60.

Standard MD data. Over 60 year old cases: 6465. Deaths. 735

Remove the nursing home cases so people over 60 not in nursing homes. 2059. Deaths. 259
12% death rate. Super high.
But what is weird is that suddenly the group over sixty only account for 10% of the cases. Maybe they don’t get out much or maybe they are more precautious. Who knows...

They aren’t as likely to be working.

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Anonymous wrote:How about we get rid of - old people (above 70) and people who have not gone to college - from this country?

Honestly, I think people should have the option. My MIL had early onset dementia so in her late 60's she couldn't function on her own anymore. I think if she had the choice she'd go to sleep and never wake up. I know I would and would want someone to make that decision for me if I had to live like she did.

The nursing home she was in was one of the first to get the virus. They didn't regularly change gloves or wash hands between each resident. They only bathed the residents twice a week. They'd use the same cleaning supplies (rags, mops, water) between each room and common room so the floors were mopped with a dirty mop and water. They also had residents sitting in the dining room lined up next to each other for hours on end (sometimes without staff as there were only two per 12 or so residents and if someone in their room needed something). I never saw any protective gear.

Once these folks get a major cold or flu, the nursing homes don't try to treat it or anything. You are forced to use their doctors who do nothing (or have to basically kidnap them to take them to the ER or outside doctor and if you do they don't follow the orders).

They also do a lot of force feeding but its a catch 22 as if they don't force it lots of residents don't eat. But, if it goes down wrong, they get pneumonia and die.

[Anonymous]

Back to work, folks. Wear masks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The data is interesting. Nursing homes: 4406 cases. 476 deaths

Assuming people in nursing homes are over 60.

Standard MD data. Over 60 year old cases: 6465. Deaths. 735

Remove the nursing home cases so people over 60 not in nursing homes. 2059. Deaths. 259
12% death rate. Super high.
But what is weird is that suddenly the group over sixty only account for 10% of the cases. Maybe they don’t get out much or maybe they are more precautious. Who knows...

I'm not a math expert but I think what you're saying is that 22% of MD's cases are in nursing homes. 10% of cases are people 60+ NOT in a nursing home. So that is 32% of all cases. I think that sounds about right. You seem to think it is lower than expected? I think the cases are spread across age groups but the deaths are more concentrated in older people.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about we get rid of - old people (above 70) and people who have not gone to college - from this country?

Honestly, I think people should have the option. My MIL had early onset dementia so in her late 60's she couldn't function on her own anymore. I think if she had the choice she'd go to sleep and never wake up. I know I would and would want someone to make that decision for me if I had to live like she did.

The nursing home she was in was one of the first to get the virus. They didn't regularly change gloves or wash hands between each resident. They only bathed the residents twice a week. They'd use the same cleaning supplies (rags, mops, water) between each room and common room so the floors were mopped with a dirty mop and water. They also had residents sitting in the dining room lined up next to each other for hours on end (sometimes without staff as there were only two per 12 or so residents and if someone in their room needed something). I never saw any protective gear.

Once these folks get a major cold or flu, the nursing homes don't try to treat it or anything. You are forced to use their doctors who do nothing (or have to basically kidnap them to take them to the ER or outside doctor and if you do they don't follow the orders).

They also do a lot of force feeding but its a catch 22 as if they don't force it lots of residents don't eat. But, if it goes down wrong, they get pneumonia and die.

Horrifying.