22% of MD’s cases and 50% of the deaths are in nursing homes

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Anonymous wrote:Some people are in nursing homes to recover from something temporarily. Not everyone there has a life expectancy of 2 years. I’ve read about deaths from COVID to people who are in a nursing home/rehab center recovering from an injury.

When my mom was discharged from the hospital, we opted to bring her home instead of sending her to a rehab center because we were so afraid of covid. Her oncologist agreed with us. Such scary times we are living in.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m bothered by the tone of many of these posts, saying life just isn’t worth living anyway for people in nursing homes, and giving excuses why nursing home workers might be ill, like they weren’t “super fit.”

It’s a good thing we don’t make policy based on the prejudices of the young. Right now you might think life isn’t worthy living once you get wrinkles, but you may change your mind someday.


Who has said that?!


Yeah I don’t think anyone is advocating killing the elderly here. If anything it’s focus resources on high risk populations, such as managed care facilities while carefully reopening states.


What about the other 50% of deaths?

If 50% are nursing homes, the other 50% are not nursing homes.


Even outside nursing homes most of the deaths are of similar demographics.

The unfortunate reality is that we can't save everyone and people will continue to die from the virus. The identified high risk categories need to continue quarantining themselves and allowing everyone else to get on with life. The idea that we can declare "war" on the virus was always grossly misleading and a mistake.

What would you have suggested instead?


The post summarized it. Quarantine the high risk categories. We can add to that further quarantining and extensive testing/daily temperature checks of all nursing home staff and residents. Beyond that life must go on for everyone else.


Well, the good news we can actually do a bit more for those impacted at nursing homes and as I understand from Hogan's press conference - now 2 weeks ago.

- For those nursing homes needing more staff, Hogan said they would support with nursing staff to support / replace those sick.
- He said they would have medical teams going in to support.
- He said that they have seen some bad actors in nursing homes. He said they would monitor the nursing homes much more closely and no tolerance.

Testing is done every week. For transparency, this data is reported every wednesday on the md gov site by nursing home.

https://governor.maryland.gov/2020/04/27/governor-hogan-directs-maryland-department-of-health-to-release-nursing-home-data-on-covid-19-cases/

All of this is beneficial not just for those in nursing homes and their families, but with this focus & isolate, allows less community spread and further re-opening of the state.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m bothered by the tone of many of these posts, saying life just isn’t worth living anyway for people in nursing homes, and giving excuses why nursing home workers might be ill, like they weren’t “super fit.”

It’s a good thing we don’t make policy based on the prejudices of the young. Right now you might think life isn’t worthy living once you get wrinkles, but you may change your mind someday.


Who has said that?!


Yeah I don’t think anyone is advocating killing the elderly here. If anything it’s focus resources on high risk populations, such as managed care facilities while carefully reopening states.


What about the other 50% of deaths?

If 50% are nursing homes, the other 50% are not nursing homes.


Even outside nursing homes most of the deaths are of similar demographics.

The unfortunate reality is that we can't save everyone and people will continue to die from the virus. The identified high risk categories need to continue quarantining themselves and allowing everyone else to get on with life. The idea that we can declare "war" on the virus was always grossly misleading and a mistake.

What would you have suggested instead?


The post summarized it. Quarantine the high risk categories. We can add to that further quarantining and extensive testing/daily temperature checks of all nursing home staff and residents. Beyond that life must go on for everyone else.


Well, the good news we can actually do a bit more for those impacted at nursing homes and as I understand from Hogan's press conference - now 2 weeks ago.

- For those nursing homes needing more staff, Hogan said they would support with nursing staff to support / replace those sick.
- He said they would have medical teams going in to support.
- He said that they have seen some bad actors in nursing homes. He said they would monitor the nursing homes much more closely and no tolerance.

Testing is done every week. For transparency, this data is reported every wednesday on the md gov site by nursing home.

https://governor.maryland.gov/2020/04/27/governor-hogan-directs-maryland-department-of-health-to-release-nursing-home-data-on-covid-19-cases/

All of this is beneficial not just for those in nursing homes and their families, but with this focus & isolate, allows less community spread and further re-opening of the state.


This is what I have been referring to any time I’ve said we should be surging resources to nursing homes and reopening the rest of society. Of course, I then get accused of not caring about old people.
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