Frustration w different levels of self isolation between ILs and us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When Phase One starts are we still going to have all the hysterical posts about kids riding their bikes or walking more then 10 feet from their house?

Yes. It will be tough for anxious people to calm down whenever conditions permit it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Souds like your MIL was reading DCUM. She sounds a lot like some of the freaking out posters on here.

This is what all of the medical experts are saying about kids playing with other kids. We are simply following guidelines. OP is not.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a troll. I’m a person trying to sort out this bullshit when there is no good guidance or leadership and we need to be good citizens, stay healthy, keep a living, and have some modicum of comfort and peace during one of the worst times I can recall

I agree OP. Please understand that DCUM is, unfortunately, probably the wrong place to go with something like this, as there are too many people with nothing to do, like your MIL, who enjoy making everything about them and love nothing more than telling other people what to do.

In your situation, I would back off from MIL entirely and let DH handle her. She has no idea what it's like to do this with young kids, plus she has a lot more time to fixate on CNN and every death report they come up with. So, just let it go. She's frustrated, you're frustrated and this conversation will not end well - so don't have it.

Besides, she doesn't need to know every detail of your life anyway.

No, there are some of us with relatives (or are ourselves) front line health care workers who are getting sick and/or dying as others refuse to keep themselves safe and put the health care works at risk. Most people don't realize the seriousness until someone they know is impacted. I am very relaxed. I don't get the flu shot and worry about those things but this is something we don't understand fully and there is no cure. Why would you risk elderly or young kids? Or, if you get sick, your doctor, assistants, nurses lives as you were too selfish to stay home a few weeks. Or, you have young kids. Kids are dying.

1) I appreciate what your relatives are doing as front line health care workers.

2) You are stupid to not get a flu shot.

3) Kids are barely impacted by Covid. The numbers/ odds are astoundingly low.

4) No one with young kids is going to keep their sanity by "staying home a few weeks." Kids have to get outside and play and riding bikes with friends is about the safest thing they can do.

5) The stay at home order is not designed to prevent you, your relatives, or anyone else from contacting coronavirus. It is designed to keep us all from catching it at once and overwhelming hospitals. That has been accomplished.

6) Go back to number 1 and start over.

While all of these are true, #5 really is the entire point. (Well, #2 as well, but that's a different post.) The stay-at-home order is not designed to stamp out the disease. It just isn't, and these posts suggesting that it is are nearly as damaging as the nonsense spewed by the President. WE are not all staying inside until there is a vaccine, and that never was the plan. If you, and OP's ILs can do that, and choose to - great, more power to you. But that's not the policy of government at any level, and statements like, "as others refuse to keep themselves safe and put the health care works at risk" are completely irresponsible.

+1000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, your child should not be riding bikes with other kids. They can ride a bike with you or dad.

We have been doing bike rides with other kids. They stay on their bikes the entire time and usually stay 6 feet apart. No one I'm our family is high risk.

Ok, so rules don't apply to you, just the rest of us. 6 feet is the absolute minimum. This is why we cannot reopen as people refuse to follow the rules.

It's not, actually.

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Anonymous wrote:No, your child should not be riding bikes with other kids. They can ride a bike with you or dad.

We have been doing bike rides with other kids. They stay on their bikes the entire time and usually stay 6 feet apart. No one I'm our family is high risk.

Ok, so rules don't apply to you, just the rest of us. 6 feet is the absolute minimum. This is why we cannot reopen as people refuse to follow the rules.

6 feet is the guideline (learn The difference between a guideline and a rule).
At stores, no one is 6 feet apart every single second of the shopping experience.
The same with the bike riding. The kids are mostly greater than 6 feet apart. Occasionally they get within 4 feet. Which is still greater distance than what you have in stores.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a troll. I’m a person trying to sort out this bullshit when there is no good guidance or leadership and we need to be good citizens, stay healthy, keep a living, and have some modicum of comfort and peace during one of the worst times I can recall

I agree OP. Please understand that DCUM is, unfortunately, probably the wrong place to go with something like this, as there are too many people with nothing to do, like your MIL, who enjoy making everything about them and love nothing more than telling other people what to do.

In your situation, I would back off from MIL entirely and let DH handle her. She has no idea what it's like to do this with young kids, plus she has a lot more time to fixate on CNN and every death report they come up with. So, just let it go. She's frustrated, you're frustrated and this conversation will not end well - so don't have it.

Besides, she doesn't need to know every detail of your life anyway.

No, there are some of us with relatives (or are ourselves) front line health care workers who are getting sick and/or dying as others refuse to keep themselves safe and put the health care works at risk. Most people don't realize the seriousness until someone they know is impacted. I am very relaxed. I don't get the flu shot and worry about those things but this is something we don't understand fully and there is no cure. Why would you risk elderly or young kids? Or, if you get sick, your doctor, assistants, nurses lives as you were too selfish to stay home a few weeks. Or, you have young kids. Kids are dying.

1) I appreciate what your relatives are doing as front line health care workers.

2) You are stupid to not get a flu shot.

3) Kids are barely impacted by Covid. The numbers/ odds are astoundingly low.

4) No one with young kids is going to keep their sanity by "staying home a few weeks." Kids have to get outside and play and riding bikes with friends is about the safest thing they can do.

5) The stay at home order is not designed to prevent you, your relatives, or anyone else from contacting coronavirus. It is designed to keep us all from catching it at once and overwhelming hospitals. That has been accomplished.

6) Go back to number 1 and start over.

While all of these are true, #5 really is the entire point. (Well, #2 as well, but that's a different post.) The stay-at-home order is not designed to stamp out the disease. It just isn't, and these posts suggesting that it is are nearly as damaging as the nonsense spewed by the President. WE are not all staying inside until there is a vaccine, and that never was the plan. If you, and OP's ILs can do that, and choose to - great, more power to you. But that's not the policy of government at any level, and statements like, "as others refuse to keep themselves safe and put the health care works at risk" are completely irresponsible.

+1000

Another +1. And I get the worry, I have relatives in essential positions still working too. But there are so many people out there right now either misunderstanding or misrepresenting what social distancing was meant to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Souds like your MIL was reading DCUM. She sounds a lot like some of the freaking out posters on here.

This is what all of the medical experts are saying about kids playing with other kids. We are simply following guidelines. OP is not.

OP did not say her child is playing with other children. She said they were thinking about going on a bike ride, and because streets are public places, there would be other children on the street/sidewalk bicycling. As in the would visually see other people (gasp!) and pass by them on bikes (OMG!!!)
All of this is allowed and is not breaking any guidelines or rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to 3 Zoom funerals this week alone for Coronavirus. Maybe it has not impacted anyone you know but it’s real. One was a woman who left her 4 year old behind. No preexisting conditions and not an essential worker. I get your fed up with being at home and yes your kid can ride a bike with you or DH but unless he is old enough to be left alone without a sitter, he and his friends are not be trusted with social distancing. And no way should you expose your parents to the disease for a hike particularly if your letting your kid run around with other kids on his bike.

OP did not state she was going to leave her child unattended while biking...

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Anonymous wrote:No, your child should not be riding bikes with other kids. They can ride a bike with you or dad.

We have been doing bike rides with other kids. They stay on their bikes the entire time and usually stay 6 feet apart. No one I'm our family is high risk.

I am sure all the other parents in my neighborhood think this also. Thier kids are not staying 6 feet apart.

I know you are going insane. We all are. That is why people freak out when others loosen up. Because we want this to be over. And we see your actions as making this drag on. You can do what you want. But you cannot be upset that people are calling you out on your selfishness.

This is utter non-sense. The virus is not spread by people bicycling in their neighborhood.
People don’t touch each other’s bikes.
About the closest you get to someone bicycling is 4 feet. And you’re not face-to-face. The virus is spread by larger droplets. When in motion. These droplets fall to the ground quickly.
And don’t forget that sunlight kills it within two minutes.
Stop the hysteria.

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Anonymous wrote:No, your child should not be riding bikes with other kids. They can ride a bike with you or dad.

We have been doing bike rides with other kids. They stay on their bikes the entire time and usually stay 6 feet apart. No one I'm our family is high risk.

I am sure all the other parents in my neighborhood think this also. Thier kids are not staying 6 feet apart.

I know you are going insane. We all are. That is why people freak out when others loosen up. Because we want this to be over. And we see your actions as making this drag on. You can do what you want. But you cannot be upset that people are calling you out on your selfishness.

This is utter non-sense. The virus is not spread by people bicycling in their neighborhood.
People don’t touch each other’s bikes.
About the closest you get to someone bicycling is 4 feet. And you’re not face-to-face. The virus is spread by larger droplets. When in motion. These droplets fall to the ground quickly.
And don’t forget that sunlight kills it within two minutes.
Stop the hysteria.

Not to mention, my personal observation is that the DMV has by and large been pretty good about social distancing. There are huge swaths of the country that are not really taking this seriously- I’m not talking about a couple families in your neighborhood getting together for a bbq, but the majority of neighbors doing these things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, your child should not be riding bikes with other kids. They can ride a bike with you or dad.

Of course child can. You need to calm down, PP.

New poster. I see groups of kids on bikes increasingly in the past two weeks or so. They are not riding around distanced from each other, exercising. They usually are stopped, sitting on the bikes, chatting, and right next to each other or facing each other a few feet apart. No adults around.

Don't think kids out on bikes with friends are staying anything like separated, or are actually riding all, or even most, of the time when they're out of adults' sight.

Parents are starting to cave to kids' whining and to what they see other ignorant parents allowing. It's just another, somehow more acceptable, name for the play dates and meet-ups kids aren't supposed to be having. "But they're on bikes riding so it's fine!" Sure they are.

[Anonymous]

The OP has a three year old. I doubt she is letting him bike ride around with friends without grown ups there!! I am a PP whose kids took occasional bike rides with friends. There were always two parents there do kids were never off their bikes.

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OP, letting your kid play with the neighborhood kids and taking hikes with people who you don't live with is the opposite of "still being so conservative".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, your child should not be riding bikes with other kids. They can ride a bike with you or dad.

Of course child can. You need to calm down, PP.

New poster. I see groups of kids on bikes increasingly in the past two weeks or so. They are not riding around distanced from each other, exercising. They usually are stopped, sitting on the bikes, chatting, and right next to each other or facing each other a few feet apart. No adults around.

Don't think kids out on bikes with friends are staying anything like separated, or are actually riding all, or even most, of the time when they're out of adults' sight.

Parents are starting to cave to kids' whining and to what they see other ignorant parents allowing. It's just another, somehow more acceptable, name for the play dates and meet-ups kids aren't supposed to be having. "But they're on bikes riding so it's fine!" Sure they are.

Ya know what? So. Freaking. What.

[Anonymous]

I have read these posts and there seems to be two camps...the cautious rule followers who are concerned for the greater society and then the I’ll do what I want be damned everyone else. These are uncertain times but I thank those sacrificing their freedom for my family and my friends, I thank you.