Lawyers- David Lat is on a ventilator - send prayers and take this seriously!

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Anonymous wrote:Also noteworthy to remember that he does have asthma. Not that it makes it any different; just noting that he did have a pre-existing issue...

obviously makes a difference to you. weird post.

Sorry, wasn't trying to make a weird post. It's just that the poor guy also has asthma, which doesn't help.

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There were a lot of younger people who were ventilated in China too but they didn't die - thy did spend over a week on ventilators. Most like Lat will recover but they will be very sick for awhile and who knows what lung damage will be the end result.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait.
This article says that he has been placed on a z pack and an anti malarial drug. Isn’t that what the entire internet is bashing Trump for saying shows promise in treatment? If the doctors at NYU are using it, it must be for a reason.

Nobody bashed Trump for stating that cholorquine is being tested. He was bashed for implying that we know that it's safe and effective. Which we do not know yet, because the trials haven't been done.

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For more info on the z-pack study:
https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf

that study actually references a prior study about the medication working on Zika.
https://aac.asm.org/content/aac/early/2019/09/10/AAC.00394-19.full.pdf

It seems like Azithromycin actually has some antiviral properties.

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Anonymous wrote:There were a lot of younger people who were ventilated in China too but they didn't die - thy did spend over a week on ventilators. Most like Lat will recover but they will be very sick for awhile and who knows what lung damage will be the end result.

The mortality rate for people who develop critical cases of coronavirus is something like 62%, so no, “most” people at this stage don’t survive.

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Anonymous wrote:There were a lot of younger people who were ventilated in China too but they didn't die - thy did spend over a week on ventilators. Most like Lat will recover but they will be very sick for awhile and who knows what lung damage will be the end result.

The NBC sound technician was on ventilators with a past issues with his lungs too...he died.

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Anonymous wrote:This part reminds me of how people died from HIV/AIDs. Except it was a choice not to come to the hospital then.

Lat and Shemtob have a 2½-year-old son, said Shemtob, who is 36.

One of the toughest parts of Lat’s illness, said Shemtob, is that he and Lat’s other family are not allowed to come to the hospital. Because of the transmittable virus, they can’t be with Lat as he continues to struggle with the illness.

Shemtob also tested positive for it and is recovering without intervention. So crazy how the cards fall.

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It's important to remember that Lat was a long distance marathon runner. So, to suggest he was unhealthy is disingenuous. If I recall correctly, many Olympians have exercise induces asthma - the swimmer Michael Phelps, for example.

In fact, I think there is some theory that those who have extraordinary lung capacity (marathoners, athletes, etc.) may have systems that go into 'overdrive" to attack the virus (which leads to a system overload and critical condition).

Who knows.

At the end of the day, non of us are immune and we can't keep looking for reasons why the unlucky victims are 'other.' This could hit any of us. Good luck to him and all who are infected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were a lot of younger people who were ventilated in China too but they didn't die - thy did spend over a week on ventilators. Most like Lat will recover but they will be very sick for awhile and who knows what lung damage will be the end result.

The mortality rate for people who develop critical cases of coronavirus is something like 62%, so no, “most” people at this stage don’t survive.

What a shameless, shameless, scaremongering thing to say. Take a long hard look at these numbers from the Italian report.

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_20_marzo_eng.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Also noteworthy to remember that he does have asthma. Not that it makes it any different; just noting that he did have a pre-existing issue...

There younger people without pre existing conditions who are getting very sick.

Understood, but the preponderance of severe cases are linked to pre-existing conditions.

Exercise-induced asthma is hardly a pre-existing condition. It's not hypertension or diabetes or lung disease.

OK, a complicating factor.

DP. Exercise induced asthma is definitely not a pre-existing condition. And there are probably many young people who have it and are not awaree of it. My very athletic younger brother only got diagnosed with it during boot camp in the military. And he was not kicked out.

Young people have to be very careful.

Completely false. Asthma is a known risk factor for a severe case of coronavirus. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/specific-groups/asthma.html Both the CDC and World Health Organization have said this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's important to remember that Lat was a long distance marathon runner. So, to suggest he was unhealthy is disingenuous. If I recall correctly, many Olympians have exercise induces asthma - the swimmer Michael Phelps, for example.

In fact, I think there is some theory that those who have extraordinary lung capacity (marathoners, athletes, etc.) may have systems that go into 'overdrive" to attack the virus (which leads to a system overload and critical condition).

Who knows.

At the end of the day, non of us are immune and we can't keep looking for reasons why the unlucky victims are 'other.' This could hit any of us. Good luck to him and all who are infected.

He has asthma, one of the few known risk factors for severe coronavirus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's important to remember that Lat was a long distance marathon runner. So, to suggest he was unhealthy is disingenuous. If I recall correctly, many Olympians have exercise induces asthma - the swimmer Michael Phelps, for example.

In fact, I think there is some theory that those who have extraordinary lung capacity (marathoners, athletes, etc.) may have systems that go into 'overdrive" to attack the virus (which leads to a system overload and critical condition).

Who knows.

At the end of the day, non of us are immune and we can't keep looking for reasons why the unlucky victims are 'other.' This could hit any of us. Good luck to him and all who are infected.

You are correct that none of us are immune. But statistically speaking, the vast majority of us will not die nor develop anything worse than a mild fever. If you want to spend your life worried you are the statistically tiny number of younger and healthier people who reach critical stages in the virus and die, fine, go ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This part reminds me of how people died from HIV/AIDs. Except it was a choice not to come to the hospital then.

Lat and Shemtob have a 2½-year-old son, said Shemtob, who is 36.

One of the toughest parts of Lat’s illness, said Shemtob, is that he and Lat’s other family are not allowed to come to the hospital. Because of the transmittable virus, they can’t be with Lat as he continues to struggle with the illness.

Shemtob also tested positive for it and is recovering without intervention. So crazy how the cards fall.

Wow, I didn't know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's important to remember that Lat was a long distance marathon runner. So, to suggest he was unhealthy is disingenuous. If I recall correctly, many Olympians have exercise induces asthma - the swimmer Michael Phelps, for example.

In fact, I think there is some theory that those who have extraordinary lung capacity (marathoners, athletes, etc.) may have systems that go into 'overdrive" to attack the virus (which leads to a system overload and critical condition).

Who knows.

At the end of the day, non of us are immune and we can't keep looking for reasons why the unlucky victims are 'other.' This could hit any of us. Good luck to him and all who are infected.

You are correct that none of us are immune. But statistically speaking, the vast majority of us will not die nor develop anything worse than a mild fever. If you want to spend your life worried you are the statistically tiny number of younger and healthier people who reach critical stages in the virus and die, fine, go ahead.

The relevant human health organizations have come out and revised the wording. It’s not that 80% of cases are “mild,” they are “mild to moderate.” That includes a wide range of symptoms and severity and it’s completely inaccurate to say that most will have nothing more than “a mild fever.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait.
This article says that he has been placed on a z pack and an anti malarial drug. Isn’t that what the entire internet is bashing Trump for saying shows promise in treatment? If the doctors at NYU are using it, it must be for a reason.

Nobody bashed Trump for stating that cholorquine is being tested. He was bashed for implying that we know that it's safe and effective. Which we do not know yet, because the trials haven't been done.

I was going to write an explanation for why Trump's tweet and announcement about hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin are dangerous, reckless, and wrong, but it really does take too much energy. That's the problem with Trump and his misstatements and false statements, you really can't completely undo them, and it takes so much energy that it detracts from where we should really be focusing our efforts and resources.