‘W’ schools boundary study?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how this thread got derailed, but yes, there is a boundary study underway.

I suggest you make your voice heard. Here are the upcoming community meetings:
https://mcpsweb.wufoo.com/forms/districtwide-boundary-analysis-public-meetings/

The past meetings, they did a pretty good job filling them with students compared to homeowners, and students are largely in favor of redistricting for "equity" reasons, ignoring the effects of busing and property values.

As for the W schools, they're gunning for them, especially Whitman which has the highest percentage of white students in of any high school in MoCo. You can bet they want to change that. At the very least, I can see them changing the edge boundaries, like near Westbard (BCC) and Carderock/Avenel (Churchill), and probably a bit in the Bradley Hills/NIH area too (mostly WJ).

WJ's gonna get hit for sure. If you look at their boundaries, there's a carve-out in Kensington so those kids end up at WJ instead of the nearest school (Einstein?). Then we have the Woodward thing as another poster mentioned.

Now is the time to get involved. Go to those meetings, write to your BOE members, etc.

Yesterday for example, the BOE voted on new boundaries for the Seneca Valley area. The vote was 7-1, with Smondrowski voting against the boundary changes.

"They" who?

Students are the ones who actually ride the buses, so I don't know what "effects of busing" you think they're ignoring.

And the students - or at least the ones I heard - are not ignoring property values. They're explicitly addressing property values, specifically that the school district is not a mechanism for maintaining your property values.

At the last meeting, the speaker list was set up so all the students spoke first, then everyone else at the end. Why not alternate it throughout the evening?

If the school district isn't a mechanism for property values, then it should not be a mechanism for social engineering either.

The board is elected to serve the people. The people want to board to consider property values. They should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how this thread got derailed, but yes, there is a boundary study underway.

I suggest you make your voice heard. Here are the upcoming community meetings:
https://mcpsweb.wufoo.com/forms/districtwide-boundary-analysis-public-meetings/

The past meetings, they did a pretty good job filling them with students compared to homeowners, and students are largely in favor of redistricting for "equity" reasons, ignoring the effects of busing and property values.

As for the W schools, they're gunning for them, especially Whitman which has the highest percentage of white students in of any high school in MoCo. You can bet they want to change that. At the very least, I can see them changing the edge boundaries, like near Westbard (BCC) and Carderock/Avenel (Churchill), and probably a bit in the Bradley Hills/NIH area too (mostly WJ).

WJ's gonna get hit for sure. If you look at their boundaries, there's a carve-out in Kensington so those kids end up at WJ instead of the nearest school (Einstein?). Then we have the Woodward thing as another poster mentioned.

Now is the time to get involved. Go to those meetings, write to your BOE members, etc.

Yesterday for example, the BOE voted on new boundaries for the Seneca Valley area. The vote was 7-1, with Smondrowski voting against the boundary changes.

I can't speak to the rest of it. But I live in the area near Westbard, and Westland Middle School, and I can say with absolute certainly that moving the boundary south of Little Falls (so into the Westbrook service area) will *not* make *any* school "less white."

Agree with above statement.

Avenel is more wealthy than Carderock.

Avenel has a whole section of low-income housing that was mandated when Avenel was built. There's incentive to shift all Avenel to Whitman to get them in there.

[Anonymous]

This is a school board that first approved AND then stayed with Curriculum 2.0 for 9 years. It’s in the interest of the BoE to cover their failures with redistricting. As for the kids, they are truly innocents who have been taught little or no critical thinking skills but only sound bites. So much easier (and more fun) to shout ‘racist’ then to actually look at evidence/law of unintended consequence/history) When you attack middle class wealth, remember the middle class has a vote too. Cue the ‘woke’ DCUMer who now writes ‘go ahead’ we don’t want you anyways/schools will be less crowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how this thread got derailed, but yes, there is a boundary study underway.

I suggest you make your voice heard. Here are the upcoming community meetings:
https://mcpsweb.wufoo.com/forms/districtwide-boundary-analysis-public-meetings/

The past meetings, they did a pretty good job filling them with students compared to homeowners, and students are largely in favor of redistricting for "equity" reasons, ignoring the effects of busing and property values.

As for the W schools, they're gunning for them, especially Whitman which has the highest percentage of white students in of any high school in MoCo. You can bet they want to change that. At the very least, I can see them changing the edge boundaries, like near Westbard (BCC) and Carderock/Avenel (Churchill), and probably a bit in the Bradley Hills/NIH area too (mostly WJ).

WJ's gonna get hit for sure. If you look at their boundaries, there's a carve-out in Kensington so those kids end up at WJ instead of the nearest school (Einstein?). Then we have the Woodward thing as another poster mentioned.

Now is the time to get involved. Go to those meetings, write to your BOE members, etc.

Yesterday for example, the BOE voted on new boundaries for the Seneca Valley area. The vote was 7-1, with Smondrowski voting against the boundary changes.

I can't speak to the rest of it. But I live in the area near Westbard, and Westland Middle School, and I can say with absolute certainly that moving the boundary south of Little Falls (so into the Westbrook service area) will *not* make *any* school "less white."

Agree with above statement.

Avenel is more wealthy than Carderock.

Avenel has a whole section of low-income housing that was mandated when Avenel was built. There's incentive to shift all Avenel to Whitman to get them in there.

The at a glance numbers (a little out of date at this point) show Whitman and Churchill at less than 5% FARMS, WJ at 7.5% and BCC at 11.1. I am not sure what it would accomplish to move one bus of kids from Churchill to Whitman. In the Seneca Valley study, the Superintendent worked to reduce the FARMS disparity among the HS clusters in the cluster and not make transportation changes that would cost the district a lot of money. If the same criteria applied, they'd be trying to equalize the numbers in those 4 clusters at about 7.1% - hardly a problem number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how this thread got derailed, but yes, there is a boundary study underway.

I suggest you make your voice heard. Here are the upcoming community meetings:
https://mcpsweb.wufoo.com/forms/districtwide-boundary-analysis-public-meetings/

The past meetings, they did a pretty good job filling them with students compared to homeowners, and students are largely in favor of redistricting for "equity" reasons, ignoring the effects of busing and property values.

As for the W schools, they're gunning for them, especially Whitman which has the highest percentage of white students in of any high school in MoCo. You can bet they want to change that. At the very least, I can see them changing the edge boundaries, like near Westbard (BCC) and Carderock/Avenel (Churchill), and probably a bit in the Bradley Hills/NIH area too (mostly WJ).

WJ's gonna get hit for sure. If you look at their boundaries, there's a carve-out in Kensington so those kids end up at WJ instead of the nearest school (Einstein?). Then we have the Woodward thing as another poster mentioned.

Now is the time to get involved. Go to those meetings, write to your BOE members, etc.

Yesterday for example, the BOE voted on new boundaries for the Seneca Valley area. The vote was 7-1, with Smondrowski voting against the boundary changes.

I can't speak to the rest of it. But I live in the area near Westbard, and Westland Middle School, and I can say with absolute certainly that moving the boundary south of Little Falls (so into the Westbrook service area) will *not* make *any* school "less white."

Sure it will. They'll re-draw the boundaries to include the public housing complex on River Road across from the 7-11 (near Little Falls Parkway). If they want to get even more drastic, they'll include the low-income housing between Bradley Boulevard and Bethesda Ave (behind Bethesda Crab House). I've been near both when the buses let off, and it's an entire busload of kids for each of those stops, at least at elementary level.

What “public housing complex” are you talking about? That’s a condominium.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure how this thread got derailed, but yes, there is a boundary study underway.

I suggest you make your voice heard. Here are the upcoming community meetings:
https://mcpsweb.wufoo.com/forms/districtwide-boundary-analysis-public-meetings/

The past meetings, they did a pretty good job filling them with students compared to homeowners, and students are largely in favor of redistricting for "equity" reasons, ignoring the effects of busing and property values.

As for the W schools, they're gunning for them, especially Whitman which has the highest percentage of white students in of any high school in MoCo. You can bet they want to change that. At the very least, I can see them changing the edge boundaries, like near Westbard (BCC) and Carderock/Avenel (Churchill), and probably a bit in the Bradley Hills/NIH area too (mostly WJ).

WJ's gonna get hit for sure. If you look at their boundaries, there's a carve-out in Kensington so those kids end up at WJ instead of the nearest school (Einstein?). Then we have the Woodward thing as another poster mentioned.

Now is the time to get involved. Go to those meetings, write to your BOE members, etc.

Yesterday for example, the BOE voted on new boundaries for the Seneca Valley area. The vote was 7-1, with Smondrowski voting against the boundary changes.

I can't speak to the rest of it. But I live in the area near Westbard, and Westland Middle School, and I can say with absolute certainly that moving the boundary south of Little Falls (so into the Westbrook service area) will *not* make *any* school "less white."

Agree with above statement.

Avenel is more wealthy than Carderock.

Avenel has a whole section of low-income housing that was mandated when Avenel was built. There's incentive to shift all Avenel to Whitman to get them in there.

The at a glance numbers (a little out of date at this point) show Whitman and Churchill at less than 5% FARMS, WJ at 7.5% and BCC at 11.1. I am not sure what it would accomplish to move one bus of kids from Churchill to Whitman. In the Seneca Valley study, the Superintendent worked to reduce the FARMS disparity among the HS clusters in the cluster and not make transportation changes that would cost the district a lot of money. If the same criteria applied, they'd be trying to equalize the numbers in those 4 clusters at about 7.1% - hardly a problem number.

If you are UMC and less than 6 miles from a poorly performing school watch out :/. Neelsville to Cabin Branch is only 5.8 miles. To put this in perspective Wootton to Gaithersburg HS is only 5.6 miles. Maybe the politicians are smart enough to leave Potomac/Bethesda alone though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The at a glance numbers (a little out of date at this point) show Whitman and Churchill at less than 5% FARMS, WJ at 7.5% and BCC at 11.1. I am not sure what it would accomplish to move one bus of kids from Churchill to Whitman. In the Seneca Valley study, the Superintendent worked to reduce the FARMS disparity among the HS clusters in the cluster and not make transportation changes that would cost the district a lot of money. If the same criteria applied, they'd be trying to equalize the numbers in those 4 clusters at about 7.1% - hardly a problem number.

What is a problem number for FARMS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see the need to occasionally adjust the boundaries among neighboring school clusters to balance the student populations at the schools. I see no benefit to making kids go farther away than that for school. If they say my kid has to leave our good school for a lesser one, we are done. We live where we live for a reason.

OK. Then you're done. Your decision.

We will as well. Frankly we’d save $100k a year in income taxes by moving to Virginia due to SALT, and ill-conceived mismanagement of a huge county school district won’t cut it for us. Finally, last ones out will have the largest devaluation of their property. Hopefully The area will attract enough idiots with young kids, who don’t do much research or updating on the school district when buying here. That hasn’t counterbalanced the nonstop stream of illegal immigrant kids and anchor babies to the sanctuary county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see the need to occasionally adjust the boundaries among neighboring school clusters to balance the student populations at the schools. I see no benefit to making kids go farther away than that for school. If they say my kid has to leave our good school for a lesser one, we are done. We live where we live for a reason.

OK. Then you're done. Your decision.

We will as well. Frankly we’d save $100k a year in income taxes by moving to Virginia due to SALT, and ill-conceived mismanagement of a huge county school district won’t cut it for us. Finally, last ones out will have the largest devaluation of their property. Hopefully The area will attract enough idiots with young kids, who don’t do much research or updating on the school district when buying here. That hasn’t counterbalanced the nonstop stream of illegal immigrant kids and anchor babies to the sanctuary county.

Wow, the racist just jumped out of this one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The at a glance numbers (a little out of date at this point) show Whitman and Churchill at less than 5% FARMS, WJ at 7.5% and BCC at 11.1. I am not sure what it would accomplish to move one bus of kids from Churchill to Whitman. In the Seneca Valley study, the Superintendent worked to reduce the FARMS disparity among the HS clusters in the cluster and not make transportation changes that would cost the district a lot of money. If the same criteria applied, they'd be trying to equalize the numbers in those 4 clusters at about 7.1% - hardly a problem number.

What is a problem number for FARMS?

DP.. I would say over 30% is starting to get in the yellow zone. Over 60% is in the red zone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The at a glance numbers (a little out of date at this point) show Whitman and Churchill at less than 5% FARMS, WJ at 7.5% and BCC at 11.1. I am not sure what it would accomplish to move one bus of kids from Churchill to Whitman. In the Seneca Valley study, the Superintendent worked to reduce the FARMS disparity among the HS clusters in the cluster and not make transportation changes that would cost the district a lot of money. If the same criteria applied, they'd be trying to equalize the numbers in those 4 clusters at about 7.1% - hardly a problem number.

What is a problem number for FARMS?

You mean what’s the magic number MCPS will aim for to redistribute the FARM kids to other schools. I dunno, what’s overall fARMS here, 30% or 40%? Then that’s their bussing goal. Mix up the kids until every school is 40% farms.

It will be like utopia for Cental Office and Board. But 10 years later they’ll wonder why scores are down everywhere, no one knows squat, and college AdComs know MCPS sux. C2.0 kids are now juniors and seniors so they’ll see the quality drop there and then again as serious students leave and schools/teachers spend more time “assimilating” students than teaching them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see the need to occasionally adjust the boundaries among neighboring school clusters to balance the student populations at the schools. I see no benefit to making kids go farther away than that for school. If they say my kid has to leave our good school for a lesser one, we are done. We live where we live for a reason.

OK. Then you're done. Your decision.

We will as well. Frankly we’d save $100k a year in income taxes by moving to Virginia due to SALT, and ill-conceived mismanagement of a huge county school district won’t cut it for us. Finally, last ones out will have the largest devaluation of their property. Hopefully The area will attract enough idiots with young kids, who don’t do much research or updating on the school district when buying here. That hasn’t counterbalanced the nonstop stream of illegal immigrant kids and anchor babies to the sanctuary county.

Wow, the racist just jumped out of this one.

What’s racist there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see the need to occasionally adjust the boundaries among neighboring school clusters to balance the student populations at the schools. I see no benefit to making kids go farther away than that for school. If they say my kid has to leave our good school for a lesser one, we are done. We live where we live for a reason.

OK. Then you're done. Your decision.

We will as well. Frankly we’d save $100k a year in income taxes by moving to Virginia due to SALT, and ill-conceived mismanagement of a huge county school district won’t cut it for us. Finally, last ones out will have the largest devaluation of their property. Hopefully The area will attract enough idiots with young kids, who don’t do much research or updating on the school district when buying here. That hasn’t counterbalanced the nonstop stream of illegal immigrant kids and anchor babies to the sanctuary county.

I have to laugh. There are several threads in the VA forum about boundaries being redrawn, equity, social justice warriors in the BOE, problems with illegal immigrants, etc... basically, the same things you are complaining about MCPS. Looks like you might have to move out of NoVa now, too. Where ya gonna go now? LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see the need to occasionally adjust the boundaries among neighboring school clusters to balance the student populations at the schools. I see no benefit to making kids go farther away than that for school. If they say my kid has to leave our good school for a lesser one, we are done. We live where we live for a reason.

OK. Then you're done. Your decision.

We will as well. Frankly we’d save $100k a year in income taxes by moving to Virginia due to SALT, and ill-conceived mismanagement of a huge county school district won’t cut it for us. Finally, last ones out will have the largest devaluation of their property. Hopefully The area will attract enough idiots with young kids, who don’t do much research or updating on the school district when buying here. That hasn’t counterbalanced the nonstop stream of illegal immigrant kids and anchor babies to the sanctuary county.

Wow, the racist just jumped out of this one.

What’s racist there?

We moved a year ago. Very happy with our community school - kids are walkers
None of the BS here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see the need to occasionally adjust the boundaries among neighboring school clusters to balance the student populations at the schools. I see no benefit to making kids go farther away than that for school. If they say my kid has to leave our good school for a lesser one, we are done. We live where we live for a reason.

OK. Then you're done. Your decision.

We will as well. Frankly we’d save $100k a year in income taxes by moving to Virginia due to SALT, and ill-conceived mismanagement of a huge county school district won’t cut it for us. Finally, last ones out will have the largest devaluation of their property. Hopefully The area will attract enough idiots with young kids, who don’t do much research or updating on the school district when buying here. That hasn’t counterbalanced the nonstop stream of illegal immigrant kids and anchor babies to the sanctuary county.

I’m sure Virginia will welcome you. Though you may want to check out their not so stable school districts boundaries, school over crowding, and rising housing cost. You may discover the grass is not as green as expected on the other side.