Why is HoCo schools better than MoCo?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get so tired of the toxic MCPS spin machine. Whenever MCPS drops in prestige or rankings which it has been doing for years, they cry that its the fault of illegal hispanic kids. They then turn around and say that it is racist to notice the system's declining performance because it is the fault of the illegal hispanics. The second spin cycle is to ride on the coat tails of a few schools with a concentration of extremely intelligent and wealthy kids while simultaneously going after these schools for having a concentration of extremely intelligent and wealthy kids.

MCPS is NOT declining because of the hispanic students. MCPS is declining because of MCPS actions. The culture within MCPS is a toxic workplace. You can not completely screw up your curriculum, force teachers to work in unsafe and retaliatory conditions, make bad financial decisions, piss off your community, implement bad academic decisions AND then wonder why you are no longer #1.

MCPS is a mess and it isn't getting better anytime soon. The only advantages MCPS has now are for the actual truly gifted (the .05%) and the kids in extreme poverty. Even these groups are at risk of losing their advantage within MCPS as MCPS seems hell bent on diluting or shutting down its magnets and only provides wrap around services in certain schools. The large cluster of students who are not on the edges -the above average, the average, or the below average but not bottom are very poorly served within MCPS which brings down the scores.

I've never notice that. Never. Not ever. Please provide two examples of MCPS doing this.

[Anonymous]

Howard is better for many reasons.

in HoCo teacher grade the work. In MCPS they really don't. There is so much pressure to inflate grades and spend time collecting other data that MCPS teachers just don't grade anymore. Grading is an important learning tool to give students information on what they do not know and need to revisit before a final test. MCPS doesn't even give finals.

Tracking -Howard county has more logical, flexible tracking. This allows teachers to teach to the level of the student not go way over their heads or bore them to death. Kids can actually so better when they are in peer groups within the same range and they are learning together. MCPS throws kids who have a 2-3 year grade level gap into the same classroom, over crowds the classroom, and gives the poor teacher an inflexible curriculum expecting that he or she will just work it all out.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bottom heavy?!

Yes, HoCo schools are “rated” higher because they have a lot fewer black and Hispanic kids, who tend not to score as highly on standardized tests. “Ratings” around here are 100% about whiteness/Asianness of a school system. When people say they want “good schools,” you can simply cut and paste “white and Asian schools.”

MCPS:
30.1% Hispanic
29.3% White
21.3% Black
14.3% Asian

HCPS:
22.4% Asian
24.0% Black
11.3% Hispanic
35.8% White

so...not really. You know it's easy to look this stuff up, right?

What’s crazy and really blows up all this nonsense is that Black students in HoCo schools perform better than MoCo schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bottom heavy?!

Yes, HoCo schools are “rated” higher because they have a lot fewer black and Hispanic kids, who tend not to score as highly on standardized tests. “Ratings” around here are 100% about whiteness/Asianness of a school system. When people say they want “good schools,” you can simply cut and paste “white and Asian schools.”

MCPS:
30.1% Hispanic
29.3% White
21.3% Black
14.3% Asian

HCPS:
22.4% Asian
24.0% Black
11.3% Hispanic
35.8% White

so...not really. You know it's easy to look this stuff up, right?

What’s crazy and really blows up all this nonsense is that Black students in HoCo schools perform better than MoCo schools.

It doesn’t make sense to just cite the demographic data of the entire county when everyone knows that the schools in these counties are incredibly segregated and that the highest performing schools are majority white/Asian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bottom heavy?!

Yes, HoCo schools are “rated” higher because they have a lot fewer black and Hispanic kids, who tend not to score as highly on standardized tests. “Ratings” around here are 100% about whiteness/Asianness of a school system. When people say they want “good schools,” you can simply cut and paste “white and Asian schools.”

MCPS:
30.1% Hispanic
29.3% White
21.3% Black
14.3% Asian

HCPS:
22.4% Asian
24.0% Black
11.3% Hispanic
35.8% White

so...not really. You know it's easy to look this stuff up, right?

What’s crazy and really blows up all this nonsense is that Black students in HoCo schools perform better than MoCo schools.

It doesn’t make sense to just cite the demographic data of the entire county when everyone knows that the schools in these counties are incredibly segregated and that the highest performing schools are majority white/Asian.

So how do you have explain that HoCo has a higher percentage of Black students and yet their Black students perform better?

[Anonymous]

mcps is a very large school district. there are many hidden gems if you know where to look. hoco same thing i'm sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bottom heavy?!

Yes, HoCo schools are “rated” higher because they have a lot fewer black and Hispanic kids, who tend not to score as highly on standardized tests. “Ratings” around here are 100% about whiteness/Asianness of a school system. When people say they want “good schools,” you can simply cut and paste “white and Asian schools.”

MCPS:
30.1% Hispanic
29.3% White
21.3% Black
14.3% Asian

HCPS:
22.4% Asian
24.0% Black
11.3% Hispanic
35.8% White

so...not really. You know it's easy to look this stuff up, right?

What’s crazy and really blows up all this nonsense is that Black students in HoCo schools perform better than MoCo schools.

It doesn’t make sense to just cite the demographic data of the entire county when everyone knows that the schools in these counties are incredibly segregated and that the highest performing schools are majority white/Asian.

So how do you have explain that HoCo has a higher percentage of Black students and yet their Black students perform better?

DP.. 3% is not that much a difference.

But the difference in HI and Asian group is pretty big -- HoCo has almost 1/3 the HI population compared to MoCo, and HoCo has almost 1.5x the Asian population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is a Blair SMACS senior. He has a great cohort of high achieving Asian-American peers who are instrumental in winning many such STEM competitions. What Blair has provided them has only been the cohort and a curriculum. They accelerate and enrich outside the school for years because their families recognized that curriculum was far inferior to what was being offered in their parents country of origin.

They are kids of STEM professioals - doctors, scientists, programmers, academics, lawyers and businessmen. They are the ones who have artificially propped up MCPS and perhaps every school district in the US which does well. But their parents are sick and tired of MCPS, like I am, and if they have younger kids, they will move to either Bethesda and if they have less money than that then they will move to HoCo. Most do not think highly of the private schools here.

Last I checked, Bethesda is part of MCPS.

-Asian American MCPS parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is a Blair SMACS senior. He has a great cohort of high achieving Asian-American peers who are instrumental in winning many such STEM competitions. What Blair has provided them has only been the cohort and a curriculum. They accelerate and enrich outside the school for years because their families recognized that curriculum was far inferior to what was being offered in their parents country of origin.

They are kids of STEM professioals - doctors, scientists, programmers, academics, lawyers and businessmen. They are the ones who have artificially propped up MCPS and perhaps every school district in the US which does well. But their parents are sick and tired of MCPS, like I am, and if they have younger kids, they will move to either Bethesda and if they have less money than that then they will move to HoCo. Most do not think highly of the private schools here.

Last I checked, Bethesda is part of MCPS.

-Asian American MCPS parent.

I agree the poster wasn't the most coherent. But they didn't say Bethesda was not part of mcps. They seem to just be saying that - of the families they know - if they can afford it, they move to Bethesda. whether to attend bcc cluster or private is unclear. Otherwise, HoCo.

Personally this person doesn't seem like someone I'd pay too much heed to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bottom heavy?!

Yes, HoCo schools are “rated” higher because they have a lot fewer black and Hispanic kids, who tend not to score as highly on standardized tests. “Ratings” around here are 100% about whiteness/Asianness of a school system. When people say they want “good schools,” you can simply cut and paste “white and Asian schools.”

MCPS:
30.1% Hispanic
29.3% White
21.3% Black
14.3% Asian

HCPS:
22.4% Asian
24.0% Black
11.3% Hispanic
35.8% White

so...not really. You know it's easy to look this stuff up, right?

What’s crazy and really blows up all this nonsense is that Black students in HoCo schools perform better than MoCo schools.

It doesn’t make sense to just cite the demographic data of the entire county when everyone knows that the schools in these counties are incredibly segregated and that the highest performing schools are majority white/Asian.

So how do you have explain that HoCo has a higher percentage of Black students and yet their Black students perform better?

Where’s the data that black students perform ‘better’ in Hoco than in Moco?!

[Anonymous]

Where are the Asian American population in HoCo? My Asian American friend frequently post pics of her kids doing things and they are always the only Asian family in the pictures. When I’m in Columbia, I don’t see many Asian families. Go to Rockville/North Potomac and you see a ton of Asian American families.

[Anonymous]

They are all in Ellicott City. Some in Clarksville as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are the Asian American population in HoCo? My Asian American friend frequently post pics of her kids doing things and they are always the only Asian family in the pictures. When I’m in Columbia, I don’t see many Asian families. Go to Rockville/North Potomac and you see a ton of Asian American families.

Korean Way is in Ellicott City. It’s a 5 mile stretch of majority Korean stores and restaurants. Or go south to Clarksville or Fulton.

[Anonymous]

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^^Did y'all not notice that some sh!t-stirrer just bumped up this 2+ year-old thread with this comment?