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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In the 2019 US News reputation survey of 25,000 high school counselors across the country UVA ranked 23rd, tied with Tufts, Emory, NYU, Michigan, etc.  I’d say that’s pretty good company - And remember that this is a national survey, not  a regional one.

No, it’s not Ivy League, but there aren’t that many schools ahead of it, and [b]I bet the large majority of parents on this board could not get their kids in. [/quote][/b]

I think the nasty comments come from this.  It's very difficult now to get into UVA and there is a lot of bitterness amongst in-state students and families who don't even start the application process because they know the Naviance scores and the incoming SCHEVE GPAs of the last entering class (4.47 for top 75%; 4.14 for bottom 25% of class) and  SAT and ACT scores (1480 average/33 ACT average)  if you're not in the top ten percent of your class don't even try.  This is reinforced by the high school counselors who show the parents the Naviance scores and schev stats and say "Let's go for JMU instead" (the counselors write a letter of recommendation).  We knew better to even suggest that our public DD apply.  She simply didn't have the stats.  That, combined with the fact that the classes at UVA are much smaller than, say, at U of Michigan or UCLA or Berkeley.  Also, in the California system, you have the enormous U Cal system, the Cal State system, and the xlnt community colleges that can feed into UCLA or Berkeley.  In Virginia, only 3,822 or so lucky Virginians get in to UVA.  UCLA and Berkeley are monsters plus there are all the other wonderful UC schools.  California is playing it smart by listening to its constituents and now limits the OOS/international numbers to only 20%.  UVA is at 33% OOS and international.  It will be interesting to see if it stays at this number under the new President, expands the OOS number or follows California and restricts the number of OOS and internationals.

So what you are seeing on this board are the complaints of unhappy students and families that didn't get in or knew they couldn't from the start.  Also, Virginia Tech and UMD are rivals so there's often a lot of nastiness coming from college students who like to troll.

Finally, with privates heading to $80K a year and more than half of students taking 5 years or longer to graduate, families are at the point where they wake up sophomore or junior year of high school and say "I had no idea" (there was a post here about 9 months ago from a Northwestern accepted family saying "Is this really going to cost us $276K?") the instate tuition of $32,500 for UVA looks mighty good.  This is especially true as the shift continues amongst employers to want to see graduate degrees.  More and more families are trying to go in-state public for undergrad and bank the difference for grad school.  We're doing that for the one who did get into UVA.

We are very fortunate to have such a wonderful system, both community college, and University level in Virginia.  It's unfortunate that it is not as large as California's 3 tier system but it is better than most states by a long shot.[/quote]

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