Red shirting, again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have the same problem with our July born DD. She is doing quite well academically, but socially and behaviorally she is "immature". The teacher told me our DD is behind the others in maturity. I said, "Look at your birthday wall, she's a year younger than over half of these kids." The teacher was shocked and said, WHAT she's not 6? No, my kid just went to K on time.
Parents, just keep thinking your 6 y.o. is brilliant while he's doing 5 y.o. work. It clearly makes you feel good about yourselves.

I find it shocking that teachers would not think about the impact of red-shirting on the relative progress of students in a given class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have the same problem with our July born DD. She is doing quite well academically, but socially and behaviorally she is "immature". The teacher told me our DD is behind the others in maturity. I said, "Look at your birthday wall, she's a year younger than over half of these kids." The teacher was shocked and said, WHAT she's not 6? No, my kid just went to K on time.
Parents, just keep thinking your 6 y.o. is brilliant while he's doing 5 y.o. work. It clearly makes you feel good about yourselves.

I find it shocking that teachers would not think about the impact of red-shirting on the relative progress of students in a given class.

They are busy, and they don't have that information right at hand.
I have a friend who's son has an August birthday plus he is very tall. There were tons of complaints and requests for "evaluations" in K. Finally, it occurred to the mother that the teachers weren't aware of his age. The minute she reminded them, they said, "OOHHH", and that was that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
For kids with basic immaturity, sure the gift of time may make a difference. For kids with dyslexia, it doesn't.

And for some kids, the gift of time actually prevents the so-called "dyslexia" (poor reading) from developing in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For kids with basic immaturity, sure the gift of time may make a difference. For kids with dyslexia, it doesn't.

And for some kids, the gift of time actually prevents the so-called "dyslexia" (poor reading) from developing in the first place.

That is just BS. Dyslexia is not "poor reading." Dylexia is a well-documented disorder that can impact language, reading, writing, and math

[Anonymous]

Redshirting = cheating

[Anonymous]

A little sensitive aren't you?

I'm thinking about redshirting my child until he's eight years old and then putting him in Kindergarten. And why not? Then I can embarrass myself by bragging about how my jumbo Kindergartner is SO much more advanced than the other children and has developed into SUCH a "leader". LOL! Slippery slope, people, slippery slope...

Anonymous wrote:Families, physicians and schools make decisions about therapy and early education strategy for children that are no one else's business but the child and parents in question. Don't fret over the ignorant intrusions of interlopers on this board. Simply tell them to take a hike! Let them suffer the slow bleed of the duodenal ulcer as they pull their hair over "red shirting" and children that are 8.954943 months older than their poor, miserable, hopeless younger children that cannot cope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For kids with basic immaturity, sure the gift of time may make a difference. For kids with dyslexia, it doesn't.

And for some kids, the gift of time actually prevents the so-called "dyslexia" (poor reading) from developing in the first place.

That is just BS. Dyslexia is not "poor reading." Dylexia is a well-documented disorder that can impact language, reading, writing, and math

"dys" = "poor" and "lexia" = "reading"

"Dyslexia" iself is a catch-all term that just means "poor reading despite having had supposedly adequate instruction". When you test a poor reader, you should come up with an actual underlying reason for the "poor reading" which could be any number of things.

[Anonymous]

dys = prefix meaning abnormal, impaired, or difficult

[Anonymous]

A little sensitive aren't you?

I'm thinking about redshirting my child until he's eight years old and then putting him in Kindergarten. And why not? Then I can embarrass myself by bragging about how my jumbo Kindergartner is SO much more advanced than the other children and has developed into SUCH a "leader". LOL! Slippery slope, people, slippery slope...
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Go ahead and do so. I guarantee you he will not even be at to top of the pack!

You are not cheating but you WILL cheat your 8-year-old!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Redshirting = cheating

Again, you are not understanding that, in many cases, it is the school making the recommendation that the summer birthday children be held back and go to another year of Pre-K instead. The parents might disagree, and then the school will simply just reject the child. In the end, we chose to trust the judgment of the educators, who know a whole lot more about early childhood education and kindergarten readiness than we do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:dys = prefix meaning abnormal, impaired, or difficult

OK, so dyslexia means "impaired reading".

If you have a child who can't run very well, a "disgnosis" of "impaired running" wouldn't be very informative or useful. Children can have "impaired running" for many reasons: they lack necessary limbs, they have poor balance, their neurons do not fire correctly to transmit information from the brain to the necessary muscles, they are actually fantastically gifted at running but find the runnning task you put before them to be incredibly boring so they refuse to even attempt it, they don't understand the directions you are giving them to run, they have a pain in one sole.

If a special ed professional is simply giving someone a diagnosis of "dyslexia" and treating them for "dyslexia" I'd look very closely at their credentials because I don't think it is a useful term.

[Anonymous]

sorry, that's "diagnosis" not "disgnosis"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Redshirting = cheating

Again, you are not understanding that, in many cases, it is the school making the recommendation that the summer birthday children be held back and go to another year of Pre-K instead. The parents might disagree, and then the school will simply just reject the child. In the end, we chose to trust the judgment of the educators, who know a whole lot more about early childhood education and kindergarten readiness than we do.

I am not sure that it is allowed in MC. The schools have to accept the child to the appropriate grade. If the child is special needs, they have to address those needs head on at grade level. Otherwise, it would be easy to "deal" with potential trouble kids, and hold them all back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Redshirting = cheating

Again, you are not understanding that, in many cases, it is the school making the recommendation that the summer birthday children be held back and go to another year of Pre-K instead. The parents might disagree, and then the school will simply just reject the child. In the end, we chose to trust the judgment of the educators, who know a whole lot more about early childhood education and kindergarten readiness than we do.

I am not sure that it is allowed in MC. The schools have to accept the child to the appropriate grade. If the child is special needs, they have to address those needs head on at grade level. Otherwise, it would be easy to "deal" with potential trouble kids, and hold them all back.

Sorry, I was referring to private schools...although the public school K teachers at an open house also questioned DC's readiness, not that they could have done anything about it if we had chosen to send DC there for K despite all the advice not to...

[Anonymous]

Actually, my child and I would BOTH be cheating...that was my point. And of course, he would be at the top of the pack--he would be older than everybody else. You're already cheating by holding your child back one year, why should you care if I hold my child back three years? After all, cheating is cheating.

Anonymous wrote:A little sensitive aren't you?

I'm thinking about redshirting my child until he's eight years old and then putting him in Kindergarten. And why not? Then I can embarrass myself by bragging about how my jumbo Kindergartner is SO much more advanced than the other children and has developed into SUCH a "leader". LOL! Slippery slope, people, slippery slope...
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Go ahead and do so. I guarantee you he will not even be at to top of the pack!

You are not cheating but you WILL cheat your 8-year-old!