07 Girls for 2019-2020

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure exactly what the point of this thread is, but since it seems to be focusing on FCV and Loudoun, here’s a reminder. A few years ago the Loudoun 05 girls team in 6th grade were the best team in the eastern region. Two years later and they are essentially an irrelevant ECNL team residing at the bottom of their league. Their best players left to play DA at FCV. Maybe history will repeat itself, maybe not. But just because a team is good at that age does not mean it will sustain. Look at the coaches and the club management and their philosophy and credibility. Then make a choice. Past performance is not an indicator of future success, especially in the ever changing world of travel soccer.

+1

LOL. Clueless post. Those 05 girls left before Loudoun entered ECNL. Times have changed.

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Anonymous wrote:For FCV's 05 DA team, only 3 of the 50 goals they've scored this year have come from former Loudoun Red players who were Region Champions at U-12. So That poster's point might not be as clueless as you think.

So the point is that FCV "development" ruined these U-12 Champions. Great thanks for the heads up.

Not PP, but this actually might be a really good quality discussion if it could be honestly discussed without garbage comments. Never will happen, but probably a good short case study.

1) 05 Loudoun Red U-12 (2016-2017) Eastern Region Lead

2) 05 Loudon ECNL U-14 (2018-2019) Not Eastern Region High Lead

3) Loudoun players left for FCV in that period

4) Only 3 of the 50 goals they've scored this year have come from former Loudoun Red players who were Region Champions at U-12

Since I don't know any of these players, just looking for plausible connections

What does goals have to do with anything? They could be midfielders, defenders, goalies. Responsibilities could have changed

Are their assists high ("hockey" assists too)

Are they seeing similar positions or PT?

What was scoring percentages or roles at Loudoun in 2016

u12 is 9v9, u14 is 11v11 -> the game changes, did their individual characteristics suit the transition to 11v11?

In that period, how many FCV players were cut and what were their positions and goals/assists

If those Loudoun players were more defensive or assist making players, it stand to reason there was a connection in success. Can't discount defense or passers. If your scorers can't get the ball from those players who are no longer there, does that automatically make them bad offensive players

I'm not looking for any replies, just thoughts I had on the youth game when I see these back and forths that are so incomplete and poorly thought out. Considering how many WONKs live in this area, thought these folks would have better supported arguments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure exactly what the point of this thread is, but since it seems to be focusing on FCV and Loudoun, here’s a reminder. A few years ago the Loudoun 05 girls team in 6th grade were the best team in the eastern region. Two years later and they are essentially an irrelevant ECNL team residing at the bottom of their league. Their best players left to play DA at FCV. Maybe history will repeat itself, maybe not. But just because a team is good at that age does not mean it will sustain. Look at the coaches and the club management and their philosophy and credibility. Then make a choice. Past performance is not an indicator of future success, especially in the ever changing world of travel soccer.

+1

LOL. Clueless post. Those 05 girls left before Loudoun entered ECNL. Times have changed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For FCV's 05 DA team, only 3 of the 50 goals they've scored this year have come from former Loudoun Red players who were Region Champions at U-12. So That poster's point might not be as clueless as you think.

So the point is that FCV "development" ruined these U-12 Champions. Great thanks for the heads up.

Not PP, but this actually might be a really good quality discussion if it could be honestly discussed without garbage comments. Never will happen, but probably a good short case study.

1) 05 Loudoun Red U-12 (2016-2017) Eastern Region Lead

2) 05 Loudon ECNL U-14 (2018-2019) Not Eastern Region High Lead

3) Loudoun players left for FCV in that period

4) Only 3 of the 50 goals they've scored this year have come from former Loudoun Red players who were Region Champions at U-12

Since I don't know any of these players, just looking for plausible connections

What does goals have to do with anything? They could be midfielders, defenders, goalies. Responsibilities could have changed

Are their assists high ("hockey" assists too)

Are they seeing similar positions or PT?

What was scoring percentages or roles at Loudoun in 2016

u12 is 9v9, u14 is 11v11 -> the game changes, did their individual characteristics suit the transition to 11v11?

In that period, how many FCV players were cut and what were their positions and goals/assists

If those Loudoun players were more defensive or assist making players, it stand to reason there was a connection in success. Can't discount defense or passers. If your scorers can't get the ball from those players who are no longer there, does that automatically make them bad offensive players

I'm not looking for any replies, just thoughts I had on the youth game when I see these back and forths that are so incomplete and poorly thought out. Considering how many WONKs live in this area, thought these folks would have better supported arguments.

7 of the 10 goals scored by Loudoun 05 in regionals were by players who are now on FCV. Is goals a great metric? No, but I don't have advanced metrics at my fingertips. 3 out of 50 does tell a story, though. The point isn't that those players aren't good, weren't good, have regressed, etc. The point is that the other dozen players on FCV , those that weren't on that Loudoun, team are strong players and it is incorrect to think FCV is solely dependent on Loudoun players jumping over to FCV at U13.

[Anonymous]

Loudon 05 only lost 1-0 this past weekend to a good team frequently discussed on this forum. I wouldn’t call them irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Loudon 05 only lost 1-0 this past weekend to a good team frequently discussed on this forum. I wouldn’t call them irrelevant.

They are in last place in their division with a 1-9-2 record. Loudoun 06's are in 7th place in their division with a 4-7-1 record. The 06's knew about ECNL and was a part of their decision process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Loudon 05 only lost 1-0 this past weekend to a good team frequently discussed on this forum. I wouldn’t call them irrelevant.

They are in last place in their division with a 1-9-2 record. Loudoun 06's are in 7th place in their division with a 4-7-1 record. The 06's knew about ECNL and was a part of their decision process.

And yet they were good enough to beat FCV 06 DA last October 1-0 at WAGS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Loudon 05 only lost 1-0 this past weekend to a good team frequently discussed on this forum. I wouldn’t call them irrelevant.

They are in last place in their division with a 1-9-2 record. Loudoun 06's are in 7th place in their division with a 4-7-1 record. The 06's knew about ECNL and was a part of their decision process.

And yet they were good enough to beat FCV 06 DA last October 1-0 at WAGS.

So, the 06's are 1-9-2 in league play but are somehow relevant because they lost to VDA and beat FCV in PK's 1-0? It sounds like FCV is living rent free inside Loudoun's head to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Loudon 05 only lost 1-0 this past weekend to a good team frequently discussed on this forum. I wouldn’t call them irrelevant.

They are in last place in their division with a 1-9-2 record. Loudoun 06's are in 7th place in their division with a 4-7-1 record. The 06's knew about ECNL and was a part of their decision process.

And yet they were good enough to beat FCV 06 DA last October 1-0 at WAGS.

So, the 06's are 1-9-2 in league play but are somehow relevant because they lost to VDA and beat FCV in PK's 1-0? It sounds like FCV is living rent free inside Loudoun's head to me.

Oh shoot I guess you were there. Oops. Sounds like you have not gotten over it yet. By all means keep explaining to us how FCV 06 and 07 is better than Loudoun despite never beating them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Loudon 05 only lost 1-0 this past weekend to a good team frequently discussed on this forum. I wouldn’t call them irrelevant.

They are in last place in their division with a 1-9-2 record. Loudoun 06's are in 7th place in their division with a 4-7-1 record. The 06's knew about ECNL and was a part of their decision process.

And yet they were good enough to beat FCV 06 DA last October 1-0 at WAGS.

So, the 06's are 1-9-2 in league play but are somehow relevant because they lost to VDA and beat FCV in PK's 1-0? It sounds like FCV is living rent free inside Loudoun's head to me.

Oh shoot I guess you were there. Oops. Sounds like you have not gotten over it yet. By all means keep explaining to us how FCV 06 and 07 is better than Loudoun despite never beating them.

You are 1-9-2 in league play. Nothing more really needs to be said. Stop spending your time polishing your WAGS medal and try and climb to 10th place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Loudon 05 only lost 1-0 this past weekend to a good team frequently discussed on this forum. I wouldn’t call them irrelevant.

They are in last place in their division with a 1-9-2 record. Loudoun 06's are in 7th place in their division with a 4-7-1 record. The 06's knew about ECNL and was a part of their decision process.

And yet they were good enough to beat FCV 06 DA last October 1-0 at WAGS.

So, the 06's are 1-9-2 in league play but are somehow relevant because they lost to VDA and beat FCV in PK's 1-0? It sounds like FCV is living rent free inside Loudoun's head to me.

Oh shoot I guess you were there. Oops. Sounds like you have not gotten over it yet. By all means keep explaining to us how FCV 06 and 07 is better than Loudoun despite never beating them.

You are 1-9-2 in league play. Nothing more really needs to be said. Stop spending your time polishing your WAGS medal and try and climb to 10th place.

Nope. Wrong year. We are #1 in VA. Just not interested in moving down to FCV. Now that we have ECNL there is no need to deal with your drama.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Loudon 05 only lost 1-0 this past weekend to a good team frequently discussed on this forum. I wouldn’t call them irrelevant.

They are in last place in their division with a 1-9-2 record. Loudoun 06's are in 7th place in their division with a 4-7-1 record. The 06's knew about ECNL and was a part of their decision process.

And yet they were good enough to beat FCV 06 DA last October 1-0 at WAGS.

So, the 06's are 1-9-2 in league play but are somehow relevant because they lost to VDA and beat FCV in PK's 1-0? It sounds like FCV is living rent free inside Loudoun's head to me.

Oh shoot I guess you were there. Oops. Sounds like you have not gotten over it yet. By all means keep explaining to us how FCV 06 and 07 is better than Loudoun despite never beating them.

You are 1-9-2 in league play. Nothing more really needs to be said. Stop spending your time polishing your WAGS medal and try and climb to 10th place.

Nope. Wrong year. We are #1 in VA. Just not interested in moving down to FCV. Now that we have ECNL there is no need to deal with your drama.

4-7-1 in league play is nice too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Loudon 05 only lost 1-0 this past weekend to a good team frequently discussed on this forum. I wouldn’t call them irrelevant.

They are in last place in their division with a 1-9-2 record. Loudoun 06's are in 7th place in their division with a 4-7-1 record. The 06's knew about ECNL and was a part of their decision process.

And yet they were good enough to beat FCV 06 DA last October 1-0 at WAGS.

So, the 06's are 1-9-2 in league play but are somehow relevant because they lost to VDA and beat FCV in PK's 1-0? It sounds like FCV is living rent free inside Loudoun's head to me.

Oh shoot I guess you were there. Oops. Sounds like you have not gotten over it yet. By all means keep explaining to us how FCV 06 and 07 is better than Loudoun despite never beating them.

You are 1-9-2 in league play. Nothing more really needs to be said. Stop spending your time polishing your WAGS medal and try and climb to 10th place.

Nope. Wrong year. We are #1 in VA. Just not interested in moving down to FCV. Now that we have ECNL there is no need to deal with your drama.

You all seem to have had some trouble with McLean the last 2 times you've played them, while FCV beat them 3-0 this Fall. Parking the bus only works for so long.

[Anonymous]

Looks like you had a excellent winter developing as well. You managed to build upon a 2-0 win against BRYC in Oct into a 3-0 loss over the weekend.

You similarly built upon the success of tight 1-0 loss to league leading VDA into a 4-1 loss in march as well.

Ahhh, those glorious days of 9v9 success are truly carrying over to the bigger girls game.

[Anonymous]

LOL. You guys are doing an amazing job convincing Loudoun families how bad their team is. Time to setup some more ID Sessions. Order lots of cupcakes and cookies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL. You guys are doing an amazing job convincing Loudoun families how bad their team is. Time to setup some more ID Sessions. Order lots of cupcakes and cookies.

4-7-2 is what it is.
1-9-2 is also what it is.

Loudoun might want to try and have more ID sessions because the in house thing is not cutting it beyond CCL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL. You guys are doing an amazing job convincing Loudoun families how bad their team is. Time to setup some more ID Sessions. Order lots of cupcakes and cookies.

Loudoun has 5 ID sessions scheduled for each age group! How many outside kids are coming to the 07's again? Oh yeah, that was answered earlier, ZERO. Just call the ID sessions what they are, team practice.