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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not sure exactly what the point of this thread is, but since it seems to be focusing on FCV and Loudoun, here’s a reminder. A few years ago the Loudoun 05 girls team in 6th grade were the best team in the eastern region. Two years later and they are essentially an irrelevant ECNL team residing at the bottom of their league. Their best players left to play DA at FCV. Maybe history will repeat itself, maybe not. But just because a team is good at that age does not mean it will sustain. Look at the coaches and the club management and their philosophy and credibility. Then make a choice. Past performance is not an indicator of future success, especially in the ever changing world of travel soccer. [/quote]
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LOL. Clueless post. Those 05 girls left before Loudoun entered ECNL. Times have changed. [/quote]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For FCV's 05 DA team, only 3 of the 50 goals they've scored this year have come from former Loudoun Red players who were Region Champions at U-12. So That poster's point might not be as clueless as you think. [/quote]

So the point is that FCV &quot;development&quot; ruined these U-12 Champions. Great thanks for the heads up. [/quote]

Not PP, but this actually might be a really good quality discussion if it could be honestly discussed without garbage comments. Never will happen, but probably a good short case study.

[list] 1) 05 Loudoun Red U-12  (2016-2017) Eastern Region Lead[/list]
[list] 2) 05 Loudon ECNL U-14 (2018-2019) Not Eastern Region High Lead[/list]
[list] 3) Loudoun players left for FCV in that period[/list]
[list] 4) Only 3 of the 50 goals they've scored this year have come from former Loudoun Red players who were Region Champions at U-12[/list]

Since I don't know any of these players, just looking for plausible connections

[list] What does goals have to do with anything? They could be midfielders, defenders, goalies. Responsibilities could have changed[/list]
[list] Are their assists high (&quot;hockey&quot; assists too)[/list]
[list] Are they seeing similar positions or PT?[/list]
[list] What was scoring percentages or roles at Loudoun in 2016 [/list]
[list] u12 is 9v9, u14 is 11v11 -&gt; the game changes, did their individual characteristics suit the transition to 11v11?[/list]
[list] In that period, how many FCV players were cut and what were their positions and goals/assists[/list]
[list] If those Loudoun players were more defensive or assist making players, it stand to reason there was a connection in success. Can't discount defense or passers. If your scorers can't get the ball from those players who are no longer there, does that automatically make them bad offensive players[/list]

I'm not looking for any replies, just thoughts I had on the youth game when I see these back and forths that are so incomplete and poorly thought out. Considering how many WONKs live in this area, thought these folks would have better supported arguments.
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7 of the 10 goals scored by Loudoun 05 in regionals were by players who are now on FCV. Is goals a great metric? No, but I don't have advanced metrics at my fingertips. 3 out of 50 does tell a story, though. The point isn't that those players aren't good, weren't good, have regressed, etc. The point is that the other dozen players on FCV , those that weren't on that Loudoun, team are strong players and it is incorrect to think FCV is solely dependent on Loudoun players jumping over to FCV at U13. [/quote]

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