Do you tell guys to date women they’re not attracted to?

[Anonymous]

Women have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more dealbreakers than men. This is just a matter of fact.

Be less picky, single women. Single men, on average, already are less picky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When men who have trouble attracting women come in with complaints similar to the one in the thread you’re obliquely referring to, they get lit up like a Christmas tree, so the answer is clearly yes.

Yes, I do advise they try to date women they may not find initially attractive. Because some guys are trying to find women that are way beyond their attractiveness level. And then they start to get angry and bitter towards women they find attractive but who aren't interested in them.

Good thing women never do this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more dealbreakers than men. This is just a matter of fact.

Be less picky, single women. Single men, on average, already are less picky.

And yet they are still single.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

If so, they can’t agree what that 10% is!

Women have wildly different things that they find attractive. If you think women only like the same handful of physical traits (AKA a Chad), then you are an incel or at least an incel apologist.

Disagree. I've been out of the dating pool for a long time now, so maybe things have changed. But, when I was in college, it was generally unusual for women to make the approach on a guy. However, when it did happen, it was always the same handful of guys who got approached by women. It wasn't like the women bold enough to approach were randomly approaching different guys because women are oh-so-varied in what they find attractive.

Do you really think your college social circle is representative of the entire US adult dating pool? You clearly didn’t take Statistics 101.

It’s already different in terms of age and is likely different in terms of race, SES, and regional culture. So whatever the twenty year old middle class white girls at your college thought was a man worth pursuing (likely the “Chad” stereotype) is not representative of all US women’s interests. It wasn’t monolithic when you were in college and it isn’t monolithic now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

If so, they can’t agree what that 10% is!

Women have wildly different things that they find attractive. If you think women only like the same handful of physical traits (AKA a Chad), then you are an incel or at least an incel apologist.

Disagree. I've been out of the dating pool for a long time now, so maybe things have changed. But, when I was in college, it was generally unusual for women to make the approach on a guy. However, when it did happen, it was always the same handful of guys who got approached by women. It wasn't like the women bold enough to approach were randomly approaching different guys because women are oh-so-varied in what they find attractive.

Do you really think your college social circle is representative of the entire US adult dating pool? You clearly didn’t take Statistics 101.

It’s already different in terms of age and is likely different in terms of race, SES, and regional culture. So whatever the twenty year old middle class white girls at your college thought was a man worth pursuing (likely the “Chad” stereotype) is not representative of all US women’s interests. It wasn’t monolithic when you were in college and it isn’t monolithic now.

NP. Actually, it is monolithic and in fact cross cultural. Physical qualities that attract the sexes to one another are the same in a Yanomamo Indian village as they are in the Mall of America. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more dealbreakers than men. This is just a matter of fact.

Be less picky, single women. Single men, on average, already are less picky.

And yet they are still single.

and so are those women, of course only after they married the "hot" guy who cheated on them and left them for an 'upgrade'. Just look at the countless threads with the never-ending lists of criteria have for a male partner vs. the simple (and short) list men have for a female lartner.

[Anonymous]

if you tickle my pickle, I'll be smooth and nice just like pack ice

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

If so, they can’t agree what that 10% is!

Women have wildly different things that they find attractive. If you think women only like the same handful of physical traits (AKA a Chad), then you are an incel or at least an incel apologist.

Disagree. I've been out of the dating pool for a long time now, so maybe things have changed. But, when I was in college, it was generally unusual for women to make the approach on a guy. However, when it did happen, it was always the same handful of guys who got approached by women. It wasn't like the women bold enough to approach were randomly approaching different guys because women are oh-so-varied in what they find attractive.

Do you really think your college social circle is representative of the entire US adult dating pool? You clearly didn’t take Statistics 101.

It’s already different in terms of age and is likely different in terms of race, SES, and regional culture. So whatever the twenty year old middle class white girls at your college thought was a man worth pursuing (likely the “Chad” stereotype) is not representative of all US women’s interests. It wasn’t monolithic when you were in college and it isn’t monolithic now.

If women's preferences are so variable, even in the smallish pool of my college, you wouldn't expect the women to be landing on the same guys so consistently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

Is this true? Most of my past bf's and and my husband are pickier than I am about women (they seem more critical of their looks) and all their past gf's were very hot. I don't believe they would sleep with most women.

The men I know are very picky. I know many men in their 30s who complain about being single, but are extremely critical of looks and won't settle for anything less than an 8, even though many of them are a 5 at best.

Man, I've known one of these since law school. He is 48 years old and STILL wants to date 25 year olds. He has a great personality and is now a judge, but has not aged well. I tell him all the time that his beauty and age standards are all wrong.

[Anonymous]

Do you tell them they should give the woman with frizzy hair, glasses, plainly dressed, and small chested a chance because she’s smitten with him and will make a kinder, and more loving mate than the fashionista who thinks she’s gods gift?

Unlike women, men aren't constantly besides themselves in panic and confusion and running to friends for advice over every uncertainty and frustration.

"Why can't I find someone?"
"Do you think I'm handsome?"
"I like this girl, what should I do?"
"We met for coffee do you think she likes me?"
"It's been two days should I call her?"
"She said _____ , is that a red flag?"

So no, I don't need to tell men anything because men are mature and independent enough to handle their own romantic affairs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, I've known one of these since law school. He is 48 years old and STILL wants to date 25 year olds. He has a great personality and is now a judge, but has not aged well. I tell him all the time that his beauty and age standards are all wrong.

Nope. He's not wrong. Men age 20-50 want a hot woman who is age 20-22. What he wants is pretty much hard-wired into the male brain. Whether or not he'll get it is another matter. It's not impossible, if he does the work to look and act attractive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, I've known one of these since law school. He is 48 years old and STILL wants to date 25 year olds. He has a great personality and is now a judge, but has not aged well. I tell him all the time that his beauty and age standards are all wrong.

Nope. He's not wrong. Men age 20-50 want a hot woman who is age 20-22. What he wants is pretty much hard-wired into the male brain. Whether or not he'll get it is another matter. It's not impossible, if he does the work to look and act attractive.

LOL. Guess at 32 I'm doomed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

Is this true? Most of my past bf's and and my husband are pickier than I am about women (they seem more critical of their looks) and all their past gf's were very hot. I don't believe they would sleep with most women.

The men I know are very picky. I know many men in their 30s who complain about being single, but are extremely critical of looks and won't settle for anything less than an 8, even though many of them are a 5 at best.

Man, I've known one of these since law school. He is 48 years old and STILL wants to date 25 year olds. He has a great personality and is now a judge, but has not aged well. I tell him all the time that his beauty and age standards are all wrong.

If he came on this board complaining about his situation and seeking advice, he would get his ass handed to him, be told explicitly what he can expect given his old man looks. He would not be told that he's great already and just needs to present himself well and perhaps get a haircut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most men would have sex with most women. But 80% of women are only attracted to 10% of men. So you can see why the advice to expand your dating pool is necessary for women, but not for men.

Is this true? Most of my past bf's and and my husband are pickier than I am about women (they seem more critical of their looks) and all their past gf's were very hot. I don't believe they would sleep with most women.

The men I know are very picky. I know many men in their 30s who complain about being single, but are extremely critical of looks and won't settle for anything less than an 8, even though many of them are a 5 at best.

Yeah, I don't buy that women are more critical of men's looks than vice-versa. I've heard men criticizing beautiful Hollywood actresses for being unattractive. Not just, oh, she's not my type, but she's ugly, a horse-face, too skinny, too fat, etc. And plenty of ordinary-looking guys who apparently think that they should be dating supermodels, and who don't want to date the women they know who don't meet their ridiculous standards. And then they complain that women only want alpha male jerks or whatever the latest incel buzzword is.

I have a friend like this. He’s not physically attractive, makes little money and has no savings, and literally lives in his mom’s basement. Yet he only wants beautiful, thin, blonde women and complains that they aren’t interested because he’s too “nice”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I don't buy that women are more critical of men's looks than vice-versa. I've heard men criticizing beautiful Hollywood actresses for being unattractive. Not just, oh, she's not my type, but she's ugly, a horse-face, too skinny, too fat, etc.

You understand that when a guy says this to a woman, he's generally trying to flatter her by dissing the hot actress so that the woman he's talking to, who is not a hot actress, will feel better about herself, right? He'd never say "she's ugly and not my type" to his buddies.