PG County "Lucky Loser" of Amazon HQ2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who could afford decent housing wouldn't choose PG. No one wants to live with crime and bad schools.

And yet, housing prices are sky high in Columbia Heights, Shaw, U Street, Hillcrest, Brookland, Bloomington, Petworth, Chillum, Woodridge, Anacostia, Eckington, Trinidad, H Street Corridor, Takoma Park, Dupont. Heck, housing prices are going up in Deanwood and Marshall Heights. Just stop PP with your nonsense. You know nothing.

I know someone that just bought in Deanwood. I really don't get it the schools are horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not really. Yes, for the childless. No for everyone else. The same equation it has always been.

It might be PG's moment. Given how much it's been passed over (not entirely, I know!), it might now be a favored location. I wouldn't be surprised if it has some of the area's best RE price appreciation in the next 20-30 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who could afford decent housing wouldn't choose PG. No one wants to live with crime and bad schools.

How do you explain DC with much worse crimes and schools?

Amenities and urban density outweigh everything else. I moved from 3,800 sqft a 1 hr 20 min commute away on a good day to 1,200 sqft on the red line. I love every moment of my new life.

I’m not the only person either - turn on HGTV and it’s nothing but millenials and couples looking to move closer in to the city of their choice on Love It or List It.

A small percentage will do this. A portion of those people will hate it and move back out to the burbs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not really. Yes, for the childless. No for everyone else. The same equation it has always been.

It might be PG's moment. Given how much it's been passed over (not entirely, I know!), it might now be a favored location. I wouldn't be surprised if it has some of the area's best RE price appreciation in the next 20-30 years.

Lots of jobs will be for young, childless professionals who will love to live in PG near a metro stop and once they establish themselves there, they will buy in PG and raise families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt some Amazon employee may find PG to be affordable if they can get over the lack of cool. (Of course, if some Amazonians start moving in, how long before we will start hearing the whining from certain PG quarters about ‘gentrification’ and ‘inclusion’?)

The reality is that there was no Amazon contest for PG to lose. It was never a contender.

"Lack of cool?" Since when has someone taken on a mortgage because a place was "cool?" I bought a house because it was a good location for commuting, but to each his own I guess!

And I keep saying this, but MOST of PG County could not gentrify because most of PG County is NICE. It is mostly pleasant suburb. Unless gentrification actually means "replace black people with white people" I do not understand how a lot of the county could "gentrify."

I agree that PG was never a real contender for something like Amazon, although it would have been a great candidate. We are close to DC, lots of Metro, lots of space, less congested. But maybe you should occasionally visit PG before posting about it?

The weird thing about this post is that it misses that PG has already largely gentrified. And it gentrified by becoming much less white and much more black. The old PG of the 1960s and 1970s was full of very downscale whites and had a police force with KKK ties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt some Amazon employee may find PG to be affordable if they can get over the lack of cool. (Of course, if some Amazonians start moving in, how long before we will start hearing the whining from certain PG quarters about ‘gentrification’ and ‘inclusion’?)

The reality is that there was no Amazon contest for PG to lose. It was never a contender.

"Lack of cool?" Since when has someone taken on a mortgage because a place was "cool?" I bought a house because it was a good location for commuting, but to each his own I guess!

And I keep saying this, but MOST of PG County could not gentrify because most of PG County is NICE. It is mostly pleasant suburb. Unless gentrification actually means "replace black people with white people" I do not understand how a lot of the county could "gentrify."

I agree that PG was never a real contender for something like Amazon, although it would have been a great candidate. We are close to DC, lots of Metro, lots of space, less congested. But maybe you should occasionally visit PG before posting about it?

The weird thing about this post is that it misses that PG has already largely gentrified. And it gentrified by becoming much less white and much more black. The old PG of the 1960s and 1970s was full of very downscale whites and had a police force with KKK ties.

Given the low net worths of most blacks, it’s hard to see why a word like “gentrification” is appropriate here. PG just flipped, and most of the schools declined by any objective measure.

[Anonymous]

Property taxes just went up again. Folks beware!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt some Amazon employee may find PG to be affordable if they can get over the lack of cool. (Of course, if some Amazonians start moving in, how long before we will start hearing the whining from certain PG quarters about ‘gentrification’ and ‘inclusion’?)

The reality is that there was no Amazon contest for PG to lose. It was never a contender.

"Lack of cool?" Since when has someone taken on a mortgage because a place was "cool?" I bought a house because it was a good location for commuting, but to each his own I guess!

And I keep saying this, but MOST of PG County could not gentrify because most of PG County is NICE. It is mostly pleasant suburb. Unless gentrification actually means "replace black people with white people" I do not understand how a lot of the county could "gentrify."

I agree that PG was never a real contender for something like Amazon, although it would have been a great candidate. We are close to DC, lots of Metro, lots of space, less congested. But maybe you should occasionally visit PG before posting about it?

The weird thing about this post is that it misses that PG has already largely gentrified. And it gentrified by becoming much less white and much more black. The old PG of the 1960s and 1970s was full of very downscale whites and had a police force with KKK ties.

Given the low net worths of most blacks, it’s hard to see why a word like “gentrification” is appropriate here. PG just flipped, and most of the schools declined by any objective measure.

Old delusions die slowly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt some Amazon employee may find PG to be affordable if they can get over the lack of cool. (Of course, if some Amazonians start moving in, how long before we will start hearing the whining from certain PG quarters about ‘gentrification’ and ‘inclusion’?)

The reality is that there was no Amazon contest for PG to lose. It was never a contender.

"Lack of cool?" Since when has someone taken on a mortgage because a place was "cool?" I bought a house because it was a good location for commuting, but to each his own I guess!

And I keep saying this, but MOST of PG County could not gentrify because most of PG County is NICE. It is mostly pleasant suburb. Unless gentrification actually means "replace black people with white people" I do not understand how a lot of the county could "gentrify."

I agree that PG was never a real contender for something like Amazon, although it would have been a great candidate. We are close to DC, lots of Metro, lots of space, less congested. But maybe you should occasionally visit PG before posting about it?

This will never happen because let’s face it, how can they look down on the folks who have the same educational and economic status as them? They prefer to move out those who are beneath them and tout their status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt some Amazon employee may find PG to be affordable if they can get over the lack of cool. (Of course, if some Amazonians start moving in, how long before we will start hearing the whining from certain PG quarters about ‘gentrification’ and ‘inclusion’?)

The reality is that there was no Amazon contest for PG to lose. It was never a contender.

"Lack of cool?" Since when has someone taken on a mortgage because a place was "cool?" I bought a house because it was a good location for commuting, but to each his own I guess!

And I keep saying this, but MOST of PG County could not gentrify because most of PG County is NICE. It is mostly pleasant suburb. Unless gentrification actually means "replace black people with white people" I do not understand how a lot of the county could "gentrify."

I agree that PG was never a real contender for something like Amazon, although it would have been a great candidate. We are close to DC, lots of Metro, lots of space, less congested. But maybe you should occasionally visit PG before posting about it?

The weird thing about this post is that it misses that PG has already largely gentrified. And it gentrified by becoming much less white and much more black. The old PG of the 1960s and 1970s was full of very downscale whites and had a police force with KKK ties.

Given the low net worths of most blacks, it’s hard to see why a word like “gentrification” is appropriate here. PG just flipped, and most of the schools declined by any objective measure.

The net worths of the black population of PG County is among the highest in the country by density. Nevertheless I agree PG flipped right alongside Baltimore as far as racial makeup. With the housing collapse in 2008 it’s never fully recovered. While DC has gone the exact opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt some Amazon employee may find PG to be affordable if they can get over the lack of cool. (Of course, if some Amazonians start moving in, how long before we will start hearing the whining from certain PG quarters about ‘gentrification’ and ‘inclusion’?)

The reality is that there was no Amazon contest for PG to lose. It was never a contender.

"Lack of cool?" Since when has someone taken on a mortgage because a place was "cool?" I bought a house because it was a good location for commuting, but to each his own I guess!

And I keep saying this, but MOST of PG County could not gentrify because most of PG County is NICE. It is mostly pleasant suburb. Unless gentrification actually means "replace black people with white people" I do not understand how a lot of the county could "gentrify."

I agree that PG was never a real contender for something like Amazon, although it would have been a great candidate. We are close to DC, lots of Metro, lots of space, less congested. But maybe you should occasionally visit PG before posting about it?

The weird thing about this post is that it misses that PG has already largely gentrified. And it gentrified by becoming much less white and much more black. The old PG of the 1960s and 1970s was full of very downscale whites and had a police force with KKK ties.

Given the low net worths of most blacks, it’s hard to see why a word like “gentrification” is appropriate here. PG just flipped, and most of the schools declined by any objective measure.

The net worths of the black population of PG County is among the highest in the country by density. Nevertheless I agree PG flipped right alongside Baltimore as far as racial makeup. With the housing collapse in 2008 it’s never fully recovered. While DC has gone the exact opposite.

Part of the reason why the housing prices are low is that the pool of buyers have comparatively limited financial resources to draw upon, even if they are making decent salaries and have higher net worths than most blacks. It’s hard to see why one would conclude there has been gentrification, particularly given a student population with achievement levels among the lowest in the state, as opposed to a combination of displacement, white flight, and substitution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt some Amazon employee may find PG to be affordable if they can get over the lack of cool. (Of course, if some Amazonians start moving in, how long before we will start hearing the whining from certain PG quarters about ‘gentrification’ and ‘inclusion’?)

The reality is that there was no Amazon contest for PG to lose. It was never a contender.

"Lack of cool?" Since when has someone taken on a mortgage because a place was "cool?" I bought a house because it was a good location for commuting, but to each his own I guess!

And I keep saying this, but MOST of PG County could not gentrify because most of PG County is NICE. It is mostly pleasant suburb. Unless gentrification actually means "replace black people with white people" I do not understand how a lot of the county could "gentrify."

I agree that PG was never a real contender for something like Amazon, although it would have been a great candidate. We are close to DC, lots of Metro, lots of space, less congested. But maybe you should occasionally visit PG before posting about it?

The weird thing about this post is that it misses that PG has already largely gentrified. And it gentrified by becoming much less white and much more black. The old PG of the 1960s and 1970s was full of very downscale whites and had a police force with KKK ties.

Given the low net worths of most blacks, it’s hard to see why a word like “gentrification” is appropriate here. PG just flipped, and most of the schools declined by any objective measure.

The net worths of the black population of PG County is among the highest in the country by density. Nevertheless I agree PG flipped right alongside Baltimore as far as racial makeup. With the housing collapse in 2008 it’s never fully recovered. While DC has gone the exact opposite.

Part of the reason why the housing prices are low is that the pool of buyers have comparatively limited financial resources to draw upon, even if they are making decent salaries and have higher net worths than most blacks. It’s hard to see why one would conclude there has been gentrification, particularly given a student population with achievement levels among the lowest in the state, as opposed to a combination of displacement, white flight, and substitution.

It's not gentrified by present DMV standards, but it's much more upscale than it used to be. And for much of the 1990s and 2000s (not sure about 201Xs), black PG was at the median better off than white PG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who could afford decent housing wouldn't choose PG. No one wants to live with crime and bad schools.

How do you explain DC with much worse crimes and schools?

Amenities and urban density outweigh everything else. I moved from 3,800 sqft a 1 hr 20 min commute away on a good day to 1,200 sqft on the red line. I love every moment of my new life.

I’m not the only person either - turn on HGTV and it’s nothing but millenials and couples looking to move closer in to the city of their choice on Love It or List It.

Amenities and urban density? So Michigan Park and Woodridge are that much different than places like Hyattsville and Mount Rainier? PG offers the exact same and is significantly cheaper. West Hyattsville and PG Plaza are like literally like four or five stops away from U St. corridor restaurants and nightlife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who could afford decent housing wouldn't choose PG. No one wants to live with crime and bad schools.

How do you explain DC with much worse crimes and schools?

Amenities and urban density outweigh everything else. I moved from 3,800 sqft a 1 hr 20 min commute away on a good day to 1,200 sqft on the red line. I love every moment of my new life.

I’m not the only person either - turn on HGTV and it’s nothing but millenials and couples looking to move closer in to the city of their choice on Love It or List It.

Amenities and urban density? So Michigan Park and Woodridge are that much different than places like Hyattsville and Mount Rainier? PG offers the exact same and is significantly cheaper. West Hyattsville and PG Plaza are like literally like four or five stops away from U St. corridor restaurants and nightlife.

Have you ever tried to take the metro after midnight on the weekend. I rest my case.

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure why anyone would ever consider living in or working in PG County....