PG County "Lucky Loser" of Amazon HQ2

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who could afford decent housing wouldn't choose PG. No one wants to live with crime and bad schools.

How do you explain DC with much worse crimes and schools?

Amenities and urban density outweigh everything else. I moved from 3,800 sqft a 1 hr 20 min commute away on a good day to 1,200 sqft on the red line. I love every moment of my new life.

I’m not the only person either - turn on HGTV and it’s nothing but millenials and couples looking to move closer in to the city of their choice on Love It or List It.

Amenities and urban density? So Michigan Park and Woodridge are that much different than places like Hyattsville and Mount Rainier? PG offers the exact same and is significantly cheaper. West Hyattsville and PG Plaza are like literally like four or five stops away from U St. corridor restaurants and nightlife.

Have you ever tried to take the metro after midnight on the weekend. I rest my case.

We just Uber.

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Anonymous wrote:No doubt some Amazon employee may find PG to be affordable if they can get over the lack of cool. (Of course, if some Amazonians start moving in, how long before we will start hearing the whining from certain PG quarters about ‘gentrification’ and ‘inclusion’?)

The reality is that there was no Amazon contest for PG to lose. It was never a contender.

"Lack of cool?" Since when has someone taken on a mortgage because a place was "cool?" I bought a house because it was a good location for commuting, but to each his own I guess!

And I keep saying this, but MOST of PG County could not gentrify because most of PG County is NICE. It is mostly pleasant suburb. Unless gentrification actually means "replace black people with white people" I do not understand how a lot of the county could "gentrify."

I agree that PG was never a real contender for something like Amazon, although it would have been a great candidate. We are close to DC, lots of Metro, lots of space, less congested. But maybe you should occasionally visit PG before posting about it?

The weird thing about this post is that it misses that PG has already largely gentrified. And it gentrified by becoming much less white and much more black. The old PG of the 1960s and 1970s was full of very downscale whites and had a police force with KKK ties.

Given the low net worths of most blacks, it’s hard to see why a word like “gentrification” is appropriate here. PG just flipped, and most of the schools declined by any objective measure.

The net worths of the black population of PG County is among the highest in the country by density. Nevertheless I agree PG flipped right alongside Baltimore as far as racial makeup. With the housing collapse in 2008 it’s never fully recovered. While DC has gone the exact opposite.

Part of the reason why the housing prices are low is that the pool of buyers have comparatively limited financial resources to draw upon, even if they are making decent salaries and have higher net worths than most blacks. It’s hard to see why one would conclude there has been gentrification, particularly given a student population with achievement levels among the lowest in the state, as opposed to a combination of displacement, white flight, and substitution.

It's not gentrified by present DMV standards, but it's much more upscale than it used to be. And for much of the 1990s and 2000s (not sure about 201Xs), black PG was at the median better off than white PG.

Yes, because the higher-income whites saw the schools rapidly deteriorating and got out in the 1970s and 1980s.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why anyone would ever consider living in or working in PG County....

Because it is nice and affordable.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who could afford decent housing wouldn't choose PG. No one wants to live with crime and bad schools.

How do you explain DC with much worse crimes and schools?

Amenities and urban density outweigh everything else. I moved from 3,800 sqft a 1 hr 20 min commute away on a good day to 1,200 sqft on the red line. I love every moment of my new life.

I’m not the only person either - turn on HGTV and it’s nothing but millenials and couples looking to move closer in to the city of their choice on Love It or List It.

Amenities and urban density? So Michigan Park and Woodridge are that much different than places like Hyattsville and Mount Rainier? PG offers the exact same and is significantly cheaper. West Hyattsville and PG Plaza are like literally like four or five stops away from U St. corridor restaurants and nightlife.

Have you ever tried to take the metro after midnight on the weekend. I rest my case.

I actually have and normally it isnt too bad as the Green line has less problems than the other lines seeing as it is newer.

If I stay out after Metro is closed, I catch an Uber back to my house, which is a quick 15-20 min ride from there...like the rest of the city does. Not everyone in DC lives downtown, U Street, or the other happening areas.

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Anonymous wrote:No doubt some Amazon employee may find PG to be affordable if they can get over the lack of cool. (Of course, if some Amazonians start moving in, how long before we will start hearing the whining from certain PG quarters about ‘gentrification’ and ‘inclusion’?)

The reality is that there was no Amazon contest for PG to lose. It was never a contender.

"Lack of cool?" Since when has someone taken on a mortgage because a place was "cool?" I bought a house because it was a good location for commuting, but to each his own I guess!

And I keep saying this, but MOST of PG County could not gentrify because most of PG County is NICE. It is mostly pleasant suburb. Unless gentrification actually means "replace black people with white people" I do not understand how a lot of the county could "gentrify."

I agree that PG was never a real contender for something like Amazon, although it would have been a great candidate. We are close to DC, lots of Metro, lots of space, less congested. But maybe you should occasionally visit PG before posting about it?

The weird thing about this post is that it misses that PG has already largely gentrified. And it gentrified by becoming much less white and much more black. The old PG of the 1960s and 1970s was full of very downscale whites and had a police force with KKK ties.

Given the low net worths of most blacks, it’s hard to see why a word like “gentrification” is appropriate here. PG just flipped, and most of the schools declined by any objective measure.

The net worths of the black population of PG County is among the highest in the country by density. Nevertheless I agree PG flipped right alongside Baltimore as far as racial makeup. With the housing collapse in 2008 it’s never fully recovered. While DC has gone the exact opposite.

Part of the reason why the housing prices are low is that the pool of buyers have comparatively limited financial resources to draw upon, even if they are making decent salaries and have higher net worths than most blacks. It’s hard to see why one would conclude there has been gentrification, particularly given a student population with achievement levels among the lowest in the state, as opposed to a combination of displacement, white flight, and substitution.

It's not gentrified by present DMV standards, but it's much more upscale than it used to be. And for much of the 1990s and 2000s (not sure about 201Xs), black PG was at the median better off than white PG.

Yes, because the higher-income whites saw the schools rapidly deteriorating and got out in the 1970s and 1980s.

Other than a handful around Bowie, PG's never really had many "higher income whites". PG was notoriously the land of downscale whites: Wild World and crap like that.

[Anonymous]

I live and work in PG and I'm pretty happy HQ2 didn't get placed here. PG should focus on getting government agencies to relocate around metro stations like they have done with FDA and NOAA.

We have already had an influx of Capitol Hill douche bags into my neighborhood, we don't need any from Amazon.

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Anonymous wrote:I live and work in PG and I'm pretty happy HQ2 didn't get placed here. PG should focus on getting government agencies to relocate around metro stations like they have done with FDA and NOAA.

We have already had an influx of Capitol Hill douche bags into my neighborhood, we don't need any from Amazon.

Government agencies attract lesser talent when they are located in PG. Not a decision to make lightly, even with the reduced rent.

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Anonymous wrote:I live and work in PG and I'm pretty happy HQ2 didn't get placed here. PG should focus on getting government agencies to relocate around metro stations like they have done with FDA and NOAA.

We have already had an influx of Capitol Hill douche bags into my neighborhood, we don't need any from Amazon.

Government agencies attract lesser talent when they are located in PG. Not a decision to make lightly, even with the reduced rent.

No they don't.

[Anonymous]

Instead of trying to rebrand the county (or insist that people not say’PG’), PG should emphasize again and again that it is the home if the Univeristy of Maryland and then do everything possible to encourage technology investment nearby.

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of trying to rebrand the county (or insist that people not say’PG’), PG should emphasize again and again that it is the home if the Univeristy of Maryland and then do everything possible to encourage technology investment nearby.

I think they are. The Capital One Tech Incubator and WeWork College Park just recently opened along with two new STEM academic buildings, The Brendan Iribe Center for Computer Science and Innovation and A. James Clark Hall Bioengineering building. College Park is booming and has a really bright future.

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Anonymous wrote:I live and work in PG and I'm pretty happy HQ2 didn't get placed here. PG should focus on getting government agencies to relocate around metro stations like they have done with FDA and NOAA.

We have already had an influx of Capitol Hill douche bags into my neighborhood, we don't need any from Amazon.

Government agencies attract lesser talent when they are located in PG. Not a decision to make lightly, even with the reduced rent.

No they don't.

Sure they do. Many people decide they don’t want to live or work in PG. It’s a hard sell to both employers and employees.

[Anonymous]

Lol so many ignorant people on this board. You realize NASA Goddard and other fed agencies are in PG right? Do you think they have a hard time finding talent? If your job is in PG you can live even farther out in Howard County or Anne Arundel. Or you can live in... PG, which, once again, is not a bad or scary place to live!

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Anonymous wrote:No doubt some Amazon employee may find PG to be affordable if they can get over the lack of cool. (Of course, if some Amazonians start moving in, how long before we will start hearing the whining from certain PG quarters about ‘gentrification’ and ‘inclusion’?)

The reality is that there was no Amazon contest for PG to lose. It was never a contender.

"Lack of cool?" Since when has someone taken on a mortgage because a place was "cool?" I bought a house because it was a good location for commuting, but to each his own I guess!

And I keep saying this, but MOST of PG County could not gentrify because most of PG County is NICE. It is mostly pleasant suburb. Unless gentrification actually means "replace black people with white people" I do not understand how a lot of the county could "gentrify."

I agree that PG was never a real contender for something like Amazon, although it would have been a great candidate. We are close to DC, lots of Metro, lots of space, less congested. But maybe you should occasionally visit PG before posting about it?

The weird thing about this post is that it misses that PG has already largely gentrified. And it gentrified by becoming much less white and much more black. The old PG of the 1960s and 1970s was full of very downscale whites and had a police force with KKK ties.

A bunch of those people are still here and others drop into the neighborhood Facebook group periodicially to give their old addresses and say racist things.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol so many ignorant people on this board. You realize NASA Goddard and other fed agencies are in PG right? Do you think they have a hard time finding talent? If your job is in PG you can live even farther out in Howard County or Anne Arundel. Or you can live in... PG, which, once again, is not a bad or scary place to live!

Haha right, I doubt NASA's full of "lower talent." I'd be thrilled if my agency moved there, i could afford a house AND a short commute instead of having to figure out how long a trip to downtown DC is bearable.

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Anonymous wrote:I live and work in PG and I'm pretty happy HQ2 didn't get placed here. PG should focus on getting government agencies to relocate around metro stations like they have done with FDA and NOAA.

We have already had an influx of Capitol Hill douche bags into my neighborhood, we don't need any from Amazon.

Government agencies attract lesser talent when they are located in PG. Not a decision to make lightly, even with the reduced rent.

Our Intel Agency in PG have difficulty only because there are so many qualified applicants to choose from. I don’t know where you are receiving your jnformation, but it’s a lie.