Newly single, military Mom, going to residency - child care options

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you to all who provided useful information that I requested! I’m grateful that my residency opportunity will not require overnights. My mentors have been incredible to work with. For my annual conferences that I’ll need to do or extended time away, my mom can help. Lastly, it’s no one’s business where the other parent is. That wasn’t what I asked about but thank you for the concern.l

You go girl. Good for you for not listening to the other naysaying PPs who say you can't do this without family. Their lack of support hurts women just as much as sexism in the workplace. They are the "home" version of the work colleague who won't give you a professional opportunity because they know you are a single mom and assume you couldn't possibly do X with a kid. These mother-shamers have some arbitrary number of hours and schedule in their head which they believe all "good parents" must conform, and they assume you can't possibly conform to that. Saying, "this is going to be harder than you think," and "you need another functional adult" (which by their definition has to be someone tied to you by blood or deep friendship), and "this seems impossible to manage to me..... with hired help" -- none of these are helpful comments. They are examples of the kinds of thinking that have held women back for centuries.

We are better than this DCUM.

You are not in touch with reality. I went through military residency with my spouse and you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. My husband would go a couple weeks without even seeing the kids when they were young and went to bed early. Can it be done? Yes, with a whole lot of childcare help. It is in no way going to be a good situation for the child involved. You just can't be two places in once, no matter how much "you go girl" is involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think you need to look for an au pair. It requires another bedroom but it’s less than a nanny.

+1

[Anonymous]

WRRAMC has a 24/7 care option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you to all who provided useful information that I requested! I’m grateful that my residency opportunity will not require overnights. My mentors have been incredible to work with. For my annual conferences that I’ll need to do or extended time away, my mom can help. Lastly, it’s no one’s business where the other parent is. That wasn’t what I asked about but thank you for the concern.l

You go girl. Good for you for not listening to the other naysaying PPs who say you can't do this without family. Their lack of support hurts women just as much as sexism in the workplace. They are the "home" version of the work colleague who won't give you a professional opportunity because they know you are a single mom and assume you couldn't possibly do X with a kid. These mother-shamers have some arbitrary number of hours and schedule in their head which they believe all "good parents" must conform, and they assume you can't possibly conform to that. Saying, "this is going to be harder than you think," and "you need another functional adult" (which by their definition has to be someone tied to you by blood or deep friendship), and "this seems impossible to manage to me..... with hired help" -- none of these are helpful comments. They are examples of the kinds of thinking that have held women back for centuries.

We are better than this DCUM.

You are not in touch with reality. I went through military residency with my spouse and you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. My husband would go a couple weeks without even seeing the kids when they were young and went to bed early. Can it be done? Yes, with a whole lot of childcare help. It is in no way going to be a good situation for the child involved. You just can't be two places in once, no matter how much "you go girl" is involved.

You prove my point. It can be done, and your judgment is unnecessary. The "you just can't be two places in once" is the classic sexism against women -- you must be with your child and you must be with work and since you can't be two places at once, the implication is that you must give up work or "it is not a good situation for the child".

Society is moving on from this sexist view of women's lives. Women do not have to spend 24/7 with their kids and each mother gets to decide how much time with their child is necessary and what other adults can be involved in the care of the child.

Just because it worked out that way for your husband doesn't at all mean that it will work out that way for OP. Just because you chose to handle it one way, does not mean OP has to handle it the same. OP has a toddler and no overnight shifts. Was your DH on call overnight? Maybe that is one difference between your situation and OP's that means that OP can do it where you and your DH couldn't imagine doing it.

For example, OP could see her child in the morning and have quality time then before work instead of in the evening. OR, toddler could be on a schedule where a sitter is with him in the morning and he sleeps later and goes to bed later. Or toddler could have a normal schedule and OP could have quality time with DC at lunch at daycare center or whatever.

You are the perfect example of the way some women keep others down by superimposing their own version of what women should be on the rest of us.

Stop. As my mother used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. OP asked for "help navigating this," not your judgment about whether she should be doing it.

[Anonymous]

I'm a 3rd year med student, single with no kids and I'm overwhelmed thinking about residency! So I admire you and wish you the best of luck next year! Hopefully things will be easier after intern year (that's what I have heard anyways).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you to all who provided useful information that I requested! I’m grateful that my residency opportunity will not require overnights. My mentors have been incredible to work with. For my annual conferences that I’ll need to do or extended time away, my mom can help. Lastly, it’s no one’s business where the other parent is. That wasn’t what I asked about but thank you for the concern.l

You go girl. Good for you for not listening to the other naysaying PPs who say you can't do this without family. Their lack of support hurts women just as much as sexism in the workplace. They are the "home" version of the work colleague who won't give you a professional opportunity because they know you are a single mom and assume you couldn't possibly do X with a kid. These mother-shamers have some arbitrary number of hours and schedule in their head which they believe all "good parents" must conform, and they assume you can't possibly conform to that. Saying, "this is going to be harder than you think," and "you need another functional adult" (which by their definition has to be someone tied to you by blood or deep friendship), and "this seems impossible to manage to me..... with hired help" -- none of these are helpful comments. They are examples of the kinds of thinking that have held women back for centuries.

We are better than this DCUM.

You are not in touch with reality. I went through military residency with my spouse and you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. My husband would go a couple weeks without even seeing the kids when they were young and went to bed early. Can it be done? Yes, with a whole lot of childcare help. It is in no way going to be a good situation for the child involved. You just can't be two places in once, no matter how much "you go girl" is involved.

You prove my point. It can be done, and your judgment is unnecessary. The "you just can't be two places in once" is the classic sexism against women -- you must be with your child and you must be with work and since you can't be two places at once, the implication is that you must give up work or "it is not a good situation for the child".

Society is moving on from this sexist view of women's lives. Women do not have to spend 24/7 with their kids and each mother gets to decide how much time with their child is necessary and what other adults can be involved in the care of the child.

Just because it worked out that way for your husband doesn't at all mean that it will work out that way for OP. Just because you chose to handle it one way, does not mean OP has to handle it the same. OP has a toddler and no overnight shifts. Was your DH on call overnight? Maybe that is one difference between your situation and OP's that means that OP can do it where you and your DH couldn't imagine doing it.

For example, OP could see her child in the morning and have quality time then before work instead of in the evening. OR, toddler could be on a schedule where a sitter is with him in the morning and he sleeps later and goes to bed later. Or toddler could have a normal schedule and OP could have quality time with DC at lunch at daycare center or whatever.

You are the perfect example of the way some women keep others down by superimposing their own version of what women should be on the rest of us.

Stop. As my mother used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. OP asked for "help navigating this," not your judgment about whether she should be doing it.

Helping her to navigate is to be realistic about what she will need. I've already responded an au pair or nanny is the way to go. It has nothing to do with being sexist, I am a professional myself. Never passed judgment about her needing to be with her child, but SOMEONE has to be with the child, so please don't put words in my mouth. Residency is a different experience, and she most likely will not be in control over her schedule. You are minimizing the situation and it would be horrible for her to arrive and realize how ill prepared she is. You aren't doing any favors with your misplaced lecture about sexism.

[Anonymous]

13:19 & 14:36 - Thank you! I'm the single mother who posted up-thread and could not agree with you more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you to all who provided useful information that I requested! I’m grateful that my residency opportunity will not require overnights. My mentors have been incredible to work with. For my annual conferences that I’ll need to do or extended time away, my mom can help. Lastly, it’s no one’s business where the other parent is. That wasn’t what I asked about but thank you for the concern.l

You go girl. Good for you for not listening to the other naysaying PPs who say you can't do this without family. Their lack of support hurts women just as much as sexism in the workplace. They are the "home" version of the work colleague who won't give you a professional opportunity because they know you are a single mom and assume you couldn't possibly do X with a kid. These mother-shamers have some arbitrary number of hours and schedule in their head which they believe all "good parents" must conform, and they assume you can't possibly conform to that. Saying, "this is going to be harder than you think," and "you need another functional adult" (which by their definition has to be someone tied to you by blood or deep friendship), and "this seems impossible to manage to me..... with hired help" -- none of these are helpful comments. They are examples of the kinds of thinking that have held women back for centuries.

We are better than this DCUM.

You are not in touch with reality. I went through military residency with my spouse and you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. My husband would go a couple weeks without even seeing the kids when they were young and went to bed early. Can it be done? Yes, with a whole lot of childcare help. It is in no way going to be a good situation for the child involved. You just can't be two places in once, no matter how much "you go girl" is involved.

You prove my point. It can be done, and your judgment is unnecessary. The "you just can't be two places in once" is the classic sexism against women -- you must be with your child and you must be with work and since you can't be two places at once, the implication is that you must give up work or "it is not a good situation for the child".

Society is moving on from this sexist view of women's lives. Women do not have to spend 24/7 with their kids and each mother gets to decide how much time with their child is necessary and what other adults can be involved in the care of the child.

Just because it worked out that way for your husband doesn't at all mean that it will work out that way for OP. Just because you chose to handle it one way, does not mean OP has to handle it the same. OP has a toddler and no overnight shifts. Was your DH on call overnight? Maybe that is one difference between your situation and OP's that means that OP can do it where you and your DH couldn't imagine doing it.

For example, OP could see her child in the morning and have quality time then before work instead of in the evening. OR, toddler could be on a schedule where a sitter is with him in the morning and he sleeps later and goes to bed later. Or toddler could have a normal schedule and OP could have quality time with DC at lunch at daycare center or whatever.

You are the perfect example of the way some women keep others down by superimposing their own version of what women should be on the rest of us.

Stop. As my mother used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. OP asked for "help navigating this," not your judgment about whether she should be doing it.

Yes or no - have you been through residency?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you to all who provided useful information that I requested! I’m grateful that my residency opportunity will not require overnights. My mentors have been incredible to work with. For my annual conferences that I’ll need to do or extended time away, my mom can help. Lastly, it’s no one’s business where the other parent is. That wasn’t what I asked about but thank you for the concern.l

You go girl. Good for you for not listening to the other naysaying PPs who say you can't do this without family. Their lack of support hurts women just as much as sexism in the workplace. They are the "home" version of the work colleague who won't give you a professional opportunity because they know you are a single mom and assume you couldn't possibly do X with a kid. These mother-shamers have some arbitrary number of hours and schedule in their head which they believe all "good parents" must conform, and they assume you can't possibly conform to that. Saying, "this is going to be harder than you think," and "you need another functional adult" (which by their definition has to be someone tied to you by blood or deep friendship), and "this seems impossible to manage to me..... with hired help" -- none of these are helpful comments. They are examples of the kinds of thinking that have held women back for centuries.

We are better than this DCUM.

You are not in touch with reality. I went through military residency with my spouse and you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. My husband would go a couple weeks without even seeing the kids when they were young and went to bed early. Can it be done? Yes, with a whole lot of childcare help. It is in no way going to be a good situation for the child involved. You just can't be two places in once, no matter how much "you go girl" is involved.

You prove my point. It can be done, and your judgment is unnecessary. The "you just can't be two places in once" is the classic sexism against women -- you must be with your child and you must be with work and since you can't be two places at once, the implication is that you must give up work or "it is not a good situation for the child".

Society is moving on from this sexist view of women's lives. Women do not have to spend 24/7 with their kids and each mother gets to decide how much time with their child is necessary and what other adults can be involved in the care of the child.

Just because it worked out that way for your husband doesn't at all mean that it will work out that way for OP. Just because you chose to handle it one way, does not mean OP has to handle it the same. OP has a toddler and no overnight shifts. Was your DH on call overnight? Maybe that is one difference between your situation and OP's that means that OP can do it where you and your DH couldn't imagine doing it.

For example, OP could see her child in the morning and have quality time then before work instead of in the evening. OR, toddler could be on a schedule where a sitter is with him in the morning and he sleeps later and goes to bed later. Or toddler could have a normal schedule and OP could have quality time with DC at lunch at daycare center or whatever.

You are the perfect example of the way some women keep others down by superimposing their own version of what women should be on the rest of us.

Stop. As my mother used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. OP asked for "help navigating this," not your judgment about whether she should be doing it.

Yes or no - have you been through residency?

Yes. Apparently so has 14:54 and a number of other PPs who have offered constructive suggestions.

[Anonymous]

You said Military... I would look at trying to use an FCC family that will work with you at the nearest base or an post with a blend of nanny time? www.militarychildcare.com

[Anonymous]

My post asking you which hospital the residency program was at was deleted (maybe because it quoted a not very nice post). I'll ask again, just because I may have more specific suggestions depending on what the answer is. (My DH has been involved in two residency programs in the area where questions like this have come up.)

[Anonymous]

WRNNMC childcare center: http://www.wrnmmc.capmed.mil/PatientVisitors/SitePages/ChildDevelopmentCenter.aspx

24/7 Center

The NSA Bethesda 24/7 Center serves children between the ages of 6 weeks to 12 years in a Navy Child and Youth Program facility that is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days per year. Care can be provided up to 24 hours. The concept of 24/7 centers is developed to meet the needs of military watch standers, shift workers, and military personnel called for other special duties during non-traditional hours. To qualify, parents must submit work schedules issued from the command or printed on letterhead (for civilian schedules), and must contain the supervisor's name and contact information. The schedule is essential for developing appropriate child and staff schedules and therefore, enrollment in the program is contingent upon receipt of work schedules in a timely manner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband and I both ate Mrs. He went right to med school out of college and I stayed home and had our two kids. The when he was done (added a fellowship) I we y in at 33. I can honestly say that the years he was in school our kids saw him less than 6 waking hours a week. My experience in school wasn't quite as bad bc my kids were older and stayed up last 8. When they are under 5 and go to bed early there is just no time to see them. It's incredibly time demanding and mentally intensive. I really would not consider this career path as a single parent. Can a grandparent move in????

poor Mrs. He. She was such a good nanny! Why did you eat her?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you to all who provided useful information that I requested! I’m grateful that my residency opportunity will not require overnights. My mentors have been incredible to work with. For my annual conferences that I’ll need to do or extended time away, my mom can help. Lastly, it’s no one’s business where the other parent is. That wasn’t what I asked about but thank you for the concern.l

You go girl. Good for you for not listening to the other naysaying PPs who say you can't do this without family. Their lack of support hurts women just as much as sexism in the workplace. They are the "home" version of the work colleague who won't give you a professional opportunity because they know you are a single mom and assume you couldn't possibly do X with a kid. These mother-shamers have some arbitrary number of hours and schedule in their head which they believe all "good parents" must conform, and they assume you can't possibly conform to that. Saying, "this is going to be harder than you think," and "you need another functional adult" (which by their definition has to be someone tied to you by blood or deep friendship), and "this seems impossible to manage to me..... with hired help" -- none of these are helpful comments. They are examples of the kinds of thinking that have held women back for centuries.

We are better than this DCUM.

You are not in touch with reality. I went through military residency with my spouse and you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. My husband would go a couple weeks without even seeing the kids when they were young and went to bed early. Can it be done? Yes, with a whole lot of childcare help. It is in no way going to be a good situation for the child involved. You just can't be two places in once, no matter how much "you go girl" is involved.

You prove my point. It can be done, and your judgment is unnecessary. The "you just can't be two places in once" is the classic sexism against women -- you must be with your child and you must be with work and since you can't be two places at once, the implication is that you must give up work or "it is not a good situation for the child".

Society is moving on from this sexist view of women's lives. Women do not have to spend 24/7 with their kids and each mother gets to decide how much time with their child is necessary and what other adults can be involved in the care of the child.

Just because it worked out that way for your husband doesn't at all mean that it will work out that way for OP. Just because you chose to handle it one way, does not mean OP has to handle it the same. OP has a toddler and no overnight shifts. Was your DH on call overnight? Maybe that is one difference between your situation and OP's that means that OP can do it where you and your DH couldn't imagine doing it.

For example, OP could see her child in the morning and have quality time then before work instead of in the evening. OR, toddler could be on a schedule where a sitter is with him in the morning and he sleeps later and goes to bed later. Or toddler could have a normal schedule and OP could have quality time with DC at lunch at daycare center or whatever.

You are the perfect example of the way some women keep others down by superimposing their own version of what women should be on the rest of us.

Stop. As my mother used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. OP asked for "help navigating this," not your judgment about whether she should be doing it.

Helping her to navigate is to be realistic about what she will need. I've already responded an au pair or nanny is the way to go. It has nothing to do with being sexist, I am a professional myself. Never passed judgment about her needing to be with her child, but SOMEONE has to be with the child, so please don't put words in my mouth. Residency is a different experience, and she most likely will not be in control over her schedule. You are minimizing the situation and it would be horrible for her to arrive and realize how ill prepared she is. You aren't doing any favors with your misplaced lecture about sexism.

I also said she needs a stable, regular, other adult available. If she doesn't want to spend a fortune on full time help, then a relative would be great. But someone needs to be available when her child is sick, or in an emergency. The military is actually pretty flexible about sick leave, but residency is different. They will cancel your rotation, make you do it again, and delay your graduation. If it happens often enough, you do have a problem.

But my main issue for the OP is the level of stress this is going to be if she doesn't have another adult who can act as "parent" in her stead. And no, I don't think it's a situation for a young child to be in the care of a rotating cast of center caregivers and rarely see an adult who is most dedicated to her.

[Anonymous]

I think you should splurge for an actual live-in nanny, or have your mom relocate to live with you for at least the first year, if she can.

Otherwise, there definitely are 24-hour daycares in DC. You can google it - here's one that's NAEYC accredited.

In your position, I think I'd want to combine a home-based care solution (nanny, au pair, relative), with the 24-hour care as drop-in as needed. I think that would be best for you and your child. http://www.happyfaces247.com/

Good luck! Ignore the naysayers.