Hundreds of Canadian doctors demand lower salaries

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Anonymous wrote:Did you read the article OP? They didn't ask for lower salaries. They refused pay increases.

This is a cultural paradigm. Most people who live in socialist countries are ok with high taxes and lower salaries for the good of the people. In America, it's always been "I", "me", the "individual", so most people aren't willing to sacrifice for the greater good. We are also much more materialistic than most of the socialist countries; our economy is driven by consumerism. Our mantra is "It's never enough, and greed is good".

Then go live in a socialist country if you think it's so great. Oh wait...

I noticed you didn't (couldn't) disagree with my assessment.

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Anonymous wrote:Not this nonsense again. Doctors make far less than lawyers and investment bankers, while it is harder to get into medical school than law or business, and training is at least five years longer.

Nurses and physician's assistants also make decent money relative to years of training. Guess why? There is huge demand for their sevices

Health care is a business -- the people actually doing the hard work should be compensated. If you want to complain about the injustices of our health care system, it is appropriate to look at how much is paid for health care administration, and to the various C level folks running insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

And, of course, OP, you are welcome to take your business to the lowest cost healthcare provider.

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Not to mention the stress of the job. I know of two residents who committed suicide. No other profession that I'm aware of has had to pass a rule to limit work weeks to 80 hours.
Your lawyer has a bad day at work and may lose a case. Your surgeon has a bad day and you're paralyzed.
Surgeons get calls in the middle of the night if something goes wrong. Does your investment banker return your call at 2 am when you realize the dow plummeted?

Doctors make far more than lawyers on average, and for good reason. But why the need to pretend that they earn less and are not compensated fairly? That’s the greed factor.

I don't see anywhere people said doctors weren't compensated fairly. What I do see is people defending the salaries because, you know, the OP called them greedy.

OP just remarked that people in the US always want more, more, more. And sorry, that’s true, whether for doctors or anyone else. Greed is our culture and it is destroying everything.

I am sure there are plenty making less and less than you or your spouse. Why don't you make an example for everyone by pledging for no pay raise?

Wah wah wah. Why can’t you make a cogent point instead of attacking the person you disagree with?

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Anonymous wrote:Did you read the article OP? They didn't ask for lower salaries. They refused pay increases.

This is a cultural paradigm. Most people who live in socialist countries are ok with high taxes and lower salaries for the good of the people. In America, it's always been "I", "me", the "individual", so most people aren't willing to sacrifice for the greater good. We are also much more materialistic than most of the socialist countries; our economy is driven by consumerism. Our mantra is "It's never enough, and greed is good".

i agree with this assessment. it is very obvious in american culture, in american family relationships - just read some of the posts on this board in Family Relationships section.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it amazing how quickly doctor's wives (always a DW) show up on these posts crying about how underpaid they are?

I think this is just emblematic of the greedy attitude around here.

I think most people don't have an accurate assumption about how much doctors really make. Sure there are some super successful specialized surgeons, but I think most people grossly overestimate. To make bank, you need to ho to a rural underserved area. DMV in general does not pay well because you have many choices and it drives insurance payouts down.

Yeah, give me some numbers. My family has a lot of doctors, some in urban areas. They're doing outstanding, and that's fine. But why do they consistently complain about the pay of administrators, pharma representatives, PAs, nurse practitioners, etc? Physician, heal thyself.

I don't hear docs complain, but I think the pay for pharma reps is disgusting. I know some that make over $500,000 a year, plus car allowances, high end travel, and lots of other perks. Most of them make far, far more than primary care physicians and more than specialists as well. And pharma reps don't have all the years of school, residencies, and staggering student loan debt (and malpractice insurance).

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Anonymous wrote:Did you read the article OP? They didn't ask for lower salaries. They refused pay increases.

This is a cultural paradigm. Most people who live in socialist countries are ok with high taxes and lower salaries for the good of the people. In America, it's always been "I", "me", the "individual", so most people aren't willing to sacrifice for the greater good. We are also much more materialistic than most of the socialist countries; our economy is driven by consumerism. Our mantra is "It's never enough, and greed is good".

Then go live in a socialist country if you think it's so great. Oh wait...

I noticed you didn't (couldn't) disagree with my assessment.

Please list some great inventions from socialist countries. Capitalism drives the awesome research and advances in this country. You seem to be the same poster over and over based on the writing and you seem to be foreign. What brought you here if it's so awful and everyone is so greedy?