Shocking Penn State hazing incident

[Anonymous]

I agree that PSU should abolish the Greek system. This is the only "redemptive" thing that they can do at this point that will demonstrate that they have had enough of their school becoming a laughing stock.

[Anonymous]

I also went to a Jesuit college and was an athlete. I did not see what PP described. Drinking was forbidden in season in my sport.

+1

[Anonymous]

I ache for his parents. I can't imagine the pain of thinking that your son was slowly dying for half a day. Had they had any inkling they would have done anything to save him. I often feel like we shouldn't ruin the lives of the living for making stupid mistakes, but in this case all of the "frat bros" who lacked the basic decency to take care of a supposed friend should be punished severely. And Penn State should probably just torch the whole campus and start over. What is wrong with State College?

[Anonymous]

This makes me cry. Terrible.

[Anonymous]

The senselessness of this makes me so angry. All it would have taken is some human decency and a phone call. It's irrational but it makes me hate everything that is related to that school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree that PSU should abolish the Greek system. This is the only "redemptive" thing that they can do at this point that will demonstrate that they have had enough of their school becoming a laughing stock.

Agreed. And it will never happen. The Penn State admin has distinguished itself by never, ever doing the right thing. It's hardly surprising that the culture on campus would allow yet another awful tragedy to happen.

--Penn State graduate

[Anonymous]

That poor kid.

They should just sell the school already and give the proceeds to the dozens of kids who were f**ed in the ass by the football program whose lives are ruined forever.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FDn3kWTGbMU

[Anonymous]

I feel so badly for the parent's. To read that timeline and know how he must have suffered with no help is heartbreaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel so badly for the parent's. To read that timeline and know how he must have suffered with no help is heartbreaking.

The thought that keeps popping into my head -- if any of the frat bros who didn't have the nerve to call an ambulance had just called Timothy's parents and said -- your son is in massive trouble, come to x address and get him, he needs to get to a hospital -- they surely like all parents of an 18 yr old anywhere would have jumped in the car and driven the 3 hrs from their home NJ to PSU and their son would STILL have gotten medical care faster than he did. That would have prevented about 4 falls and 1 of the huge staircase falls plus the spleen injury may have been reparable within that timeframe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that PSU should abolish the Greek system. This is the only "redemptive" thing that they can do at this point that will demonstrate that they have had enough of their school becoming a laughing stock.

Agreed. And it will never happen. The Penn State admin has distinguished itself by never, ever doing the right thing. It's hardly surprising that the culture on campus would allow yet another awful tragedy to happen.

--Penn State graduate

Why is that? There are thousands of colleges in America and yet what is it about PSU that their handling of things is so bad? Didn't they replace the administration post-Sandusky - or no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that PSU should abolish the Greek system. This is the only "redemptive" thing that they can do at this point that will demonstrate that they have had enough of their school becoming a laughing stock.

Agreed. And it will never happen. The Penn State admin has distinguished itself by never, ever doing the right thing. It's hardly surprising that the culture on campus would allow yet another awful tragedy to happen.

--Penn State graduate

Why is that? There are thousands of colleges in America and yet what is it about PSU that their handling of things is so bad? Didn't they replace the administration post-Sandusky - or no?

They just put JoePa's son on the board of directors. They are so weird.

[Anonymous]

It doesn't say much for the education level of the kids that they couldn't recognize an obvious 911 situation. The level of student is apparently very low at Penn State.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't say much for the education level of the kids that they couldn't recognize an obvious 911 situation. The level of student is apparently very low at Penn State.

I'm not convinced that they didn't recognize it as a 911 situation. I think at least some of the "brothers" are functional sociopaths who recognized that he was in trouble, but opted to take a calculated risk in hopes that he would recover. They were more interested in protecting the frat from punishment, and it backfired.

I feel terrible for the parents. I also feel bad for the majority of Penn State students who have to now endure another round of their school being publicly held up as a den of iniquity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Something isn’t right on this campus. I’m sure binge drinking and frat hazing are happening across the nation, yet time and time again when something happens at PSU -- the immediate reaction is circle the wagons/protect ourselves, screw everyone else. The administration did it with Paterno; now these students are doing it. There’s something about the insular “We Are” culture of that place that breeds this kind of attitude.

The presentment was horrendous to read. His injuries were so severe – a shattered spleen where 80% of his blood pooled bc he didn’t receive any care for 12+ hours; 5-6 falls including 2 down full staircases with brain injuries so severe that the signals to breathe weren’t being sent properly through his body. And his poor parents now know that doctors believe these injuries must have been very painful for him for 12 hrs in his semi conscious state.

Bunch of idiots at that school. Seriously these aren’t little boys – these were all young men age 18+, many of whom sat around googling head injuries/concussions – so they knew something was truly wrong. If there is some decision by the older guys in the frat that 911 would not be called – there wasn’t 1 guy in that group willing to say “f— you” and call anyway? Or not say anything, go outside and make a quick call? Or anonymously call this kid’s roommate or RA and say – come get him, he’s in deep trouble but we can’t help but you have to come, it’s life or death!? One pledge brother was the one who insisted that there may be a head injury and the older brothers shoved him in the wall and told him to shut up; that kid is now doing the media circuit – saw him on GMA. He really couldn’t have stepped outside with a phone – his place in the frat was THAT important??

It pisses me off that the kid who wanted to call 911 and was told not to, and did NOT call 911, is not being charged with anything and in the bargain is on the media circuit. He DID NOT DO THE RIGHT THING. He failed to act at a critical moment because he chose his "brothers" over a dying man.

WTF

No amount of community service and philanthropy can ever suffice to compensate for the deaths that occur every single year thanks to Greek hazing (and never mind the injuries, sexual assault, the list goes on).

I am just stunned by this.

[Anonymous]

psu alum who over the years on here people state i'm not an alum because i discourage people when they ask about if they should send their kid there.

I feel vindicated. This shit was bound to happen a matter of time.

I'm a democrat so I support strong public funding of universities, but PSU needs to be cut off from the public coffer. Turn it into private school and the state needs to wash their hands clean of it. it is a poisoned institution.