Same sex marriage education at pk/k at gds

[Anonymous]

"I've always loved this line. As if this is how we should base moral decisions. I'm sure in 1938 Germany, people were telling non-Nazis that they were "on the wrong side of history" as well.

"But since you brought up a more serious question....

"My first response is to do or say nothing. When DD was 4, she really didn't even notice this difference about one of her friends/ classmates. She played at the child's house and "Miss X" or "Miss Y" were always around but frankly, I don't think she caught the difference between most other houses where, say, a mom and nanny were also home all the time. She's a little older now and the friendship with that particular child has faded somewhat because of a move, so we're really not in as much contact. With my older kids, it has only come up briefly. I have said – briefly, without a lot of fanfare -- that yes, there are families that are constructed in this way (two moms/ two dads) and that I personally do not approve of it, but that the people are lovely and should be treated as such. So far, that's been the extent of it.

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PLEASE tell me that you didn't intentionally just equate equality for two-mom and two-dad families with Nazism in 1938 Germany. Please tell me that was a mistake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

"I've always loved this line. As if this is how we should base moral decisions. I'm sure in 1938 Germany, people were telling non-Nazis that they were "on the wrong side of history" as well.

"But since you brought up a more serious question....

"My first response is to do or say nothing. When DD was 4, she really didn't even notice this difference about one of her friends/ classmates. She played at the child's house and "Miss X" or "Miss Y" were always around but frankly, I don't think she caught the difference between most other houses where, say, a mom and nanny were also home all the time. She's a little older now and the friendship with that particular child has faded somewhat because of a move, so we're really not in as much contact. With my older kids, it has only come up briefly. I have said – briefly, without a lot of fanfare -- that yes, there are families that are constructed in this way (two moms/ two dads) and that I personally do not approve of it, but that the people are lovely and should be treated as such. So far, that's been the extent of it.

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PLEASE tell me that you didn't intentionally just equate equality for two-mom and two-dad families with Nazism in 1938 Germany. Please tell me that was a mistake.

Please tell me that you aren't so desperate/ determined to find an offense under every rock you see that you read it that way. Please tell me you don't live your life that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One of two moms here, with kids in PK. I can't exactly teach my kids to pretend one of their parents don't exist, so their friends know they have two moms. GDS may have had nothing to do with it. And FWIW, I assure you that no one decided a sexual orientation based on those of their friends' parents. You have a 97% chance that she'll marry a boy, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Best to your family.

What is important more than anything is that they are loved. Who cares if it's 2 moms or 2 dads? Who cares if they're divorced and a single mother or father?
You'll find same sex couples everywhere - Potomac, Sidwell etc. It's not GDS, it's reality and there's absolutely nothing wrong.

Actually, some of us think there is.

And you are on the wrong side of history. But seriously, if your young (ages 4-6) child had a friend with 2 moms or 2 dads and had a question about it, how would you respond?

I've always loved this line. As if this is how we should base moral decisions. I'm sure in 1938 Germany, people were telling non-Nazis that they were "on the wrong side of history" as well.

But since you brought up a more serious question....

My first response is to do or say nothing. When DD was 4, she really didn't even notice this difference about one of her friends/ classmates. She played at the child's house and "Miss X" or "Miss Y" were always around but frankly, I don't think she caught the difference between most other houses where, say, a mom and nanny were also home all the time. She's a little older now and the friendship with that particular child has faded somewhat because of a move, so we're really not in as much contact. With my older kids, it has only come up briefly. I have said – briefly, without a lot of fanfare -- that yes, there are families that are constructed in this way (two moms/ two dads) and that I personally do not approve of it, but that the people are lovely and should be treated as such. So far, that's been the extent of it.

While I do not agree with your position against same sex couples and marriages, I do respect your opinion and think others should as well. I fear if we don't start respecting each others opinions on social issues that we will only see more of a divided nation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

"I've always loved this line. As if this is how we should base moral decisions. I'm sure in 1938 Germany, people were telling non-Nazis that they were "on the wrong side of history" as well.

"But since you brought up a more serious question....

"My first response is to do or say nothing. When DD was 4, she really didn't even notice this difference about one of her friends/ classmates. She played at the child's house and "Miss X" or "Miss Y" were always around but frankly, I don't think she caught the difference between most other houses where, say, a mom and nanny were also home all the time. She's a little older now and the friendship with that particular child has faded somewhat because of a move, so we're really not in as much contact. With my older kids, it has only come up briefly. I have said – briefly, without a lot of fanfare -- that yes, there are families that are constructed in this way (two moms/ two dads) and that I personally do not approve of it, but that the people are lovely and should be treated as such. So far, that's been the extent of it.

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PLEASE tell me that you didn't intentionally just equate equality for two-mom and two-dad families with Nazism in 1938 Germany. Please tell me that was a mistake.

Seriously. If anything, I think non-Nazis were telling Nazis that THEY were on the wrong side of history but it's an outrageous and offensive comparison. When I say "the wrong side of history" I am thinking about the quote "The arc of the moral universe is long but bends towards justice."

Anyway - it's not surprising that someone with your views has very little interaction with same sex families. I wonder if you would feel differently if you knew more gay people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One of two moms here, with kids in PK. I can't exactly teach my kids to pretend one of their parents don't exist, so their friends know they have two moms. GDS may have had nothing to do with it. And FWIW, I assure you that no one decided a sexual orientation based on those of their friends' parents. You have a 97% chance that she'll marry a boy, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Best to your family.

What is important more than anything is that they are loved. Who cares if it's 2 moms or 2 dads? Who cares if they're divorced and a single mother or father?
You'll find same sex couples everywhere - Potomac, Sidwell etc. It's not GDS, it's reality and there's absolutely nothing wrong.

Actually, some of us think there is.

And you are on the wrong side of history. But seriously, if your young (ages 4-6) child had a friend with 2 moms or 2 dads and had a question about it, how would you respond?

I've always loved this line. As if this is how we should base moral decisions. I'm sure in 1938 Germany, people were telling non-Nazis that they were "on the wrong side of history" as well.

But since you brought up a more serious question....

My first response is to do or say nothing. When DD was 4, she really didn't even notice this difference about one of her friends/ classmates. She played at the child's house and "Miss X" or "Miss Y" were always around but frankly, I don't think she caught the difference between most other houses where, say, a mom and nanny were also home all the time. She's a little older now and the friendship with that particular child has faded somewhat because of a move, so we're really not in as much contact. With my older kids, it has only come up briefly. I have said – briefly, without a lot of fanfare -- that yes, there are families that are constructed in this way (two moms/ two dads) and that I personally do not approve of it, but that the people are lovely and should be treated as such. So far, that's been the extent of it.

While I do not agree with your position against same sex couples and marriages, I do respect your opinion and think others should as well. I fear if we don't start respecting each others opinions on social issues that we will only see more of a divided nation.

Thank you. I appreciate that and of course I respect your opinion as well. Sadly, though, I'm afraid that this attitude is in the minority, as witnessed simply by the postings here. Clearly, there are people who love to take personal offense at everything that in any way varies from their personal thought on any subject. I truly wonder how these people get through the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're overreacting. She's simply learning about the world around her. Please don't freak out and pull her away. This is exactly how prejudice is learned.

It's also exactly how more and more kids are becoming confused about how the world works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my dd is in k at gds. today she asked me whether she should marry a man or a woman. She said her classmate has two dads so she thinks she can also marry a woman. I am not against same sex marriage, but gds taught prek/k about same sex marriage. Do you think it is too much or am I overreacted?

I don't even understanding what you are asking.

The fact that you even think this is a question shows you are outdated in your thinking. You may want to think more like your child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PLEASE tell me that you didn't intentionally just equate equality for two-mom and two-dad families with Nazism in 1938 Germany. Please tell me that was a mistake.

Please tell me that you aren't so desperate/ determined to find an offense under every rock you see that you read it that way. Please tell me you don't live your life that way.

I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but as half of a same-sex couple with two school-age children, I truly cannot believe that of all of the analogies that you would pick, you would correlate acceptance of gay and lesbian families with Nazi Germany. You personally don't have to change your views about others, but equating it with Nazism is truly over the top---even if you are protected by the anonymity of DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of two moms here, with kids in PK. I can't exactly teach my kids to pretend one of their parents don't exist, so their friends know they have two moms. GDS may have had nothing to do with it. And FWIW, I assure you that no one decided a sexual orientation based on those of their friends' parents. You have a 97% chance that she'll marry a boy, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Best to your family.

What is important more than anything is that they are loved. Who cares if it's 2 moms or 2 dads? Who cares if they're divorced and a single mother or father?
You'll find same sex couples everywhere - Potomac, Sidwell etc. It's not GDS, it's reality and there's absolutely nothing wrong.

Actually, some of us think there is.

And you are on the wrong side of history. But seriously, if your young (ages 4-6) child had a friend with 2 moms or 2 dads and had a question about it, how would you respond?

I've always loved this line. As if this is how we should base moral decisions. I'm sure in 1938 Germany, people were telling non-Nazis that they were "on the wrong side of history" as well.

But since you brought up a more serious question....

My first response is to do or say nothing. When DD was 4, she really didn't even notice this difference about one of her friends/ classmates. She played at the child's house and "Miss X" or "Miss Y" were always around but frankly, I don't think she caught the difference between most other houses where, say, a mom and nanny were also home all the time. She's a little older now and the friendship with that particular child has faded somewhat because of a move, so we're really not in as much contact. With my older kids, it has only come up briefly. I have said – briefly, without a lot of fanfare -- that yes, there are families that are constructed in this way (two moms/ two dads) and that I personally do not approve of it, but that the people are lovely and should be treated as such. So far, that's been the extent of it.

And I tell my kids there are families with hateful, prejudiced moms and dads, and while I personally don't approve of that, they're pretty easy to identify and avoid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

"I've always loved this line. As if this is how we should base moral decisions. I'm sure in 1938 Germany, people were telling non-Nazis that they were "on the wrong side of history" as well.

"But since you brought up a more serious question....

"My first response is to do or say nothing. When DD was 4, she really didn't even notice this difference about one of her friends/ classmates. She played at the child's house and "Miss X" or "Miss Y" were always around but frankly, I don't think she caught the difference between most other houses where, say, a mom and nanny were also home all the time. She's a little older now and the friendship with that particular child has faded somewhat because of a move, so we're really not in as much contact. With my older kids, it has only come up briefly. I have said – briefly, without a lot of fanfare -- that yes, there are families that are constructed in this way (two moms/ two dads) and that I personally do not approve of it, but that the people are lovely and should be treated as such. So far, that's been the extent of it.

"



PLEASE tell me that you didn't intentionally just equate equality for two-mom and two-dad families with Nazism in 1938 Germany. Please tell me that was a mistake.

As the granddaughter of a Holocaust survivor (who by the way, is pro marriage equality), I’m stunned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my dd is in k at gds. today she asked me whether she should marry a man or a woman. She said her classmate has two dads so she thinks she can also marry a woman. I am not against same sex marriage, but gds taught prek/k about same sex marriage. Do you think it is too much or am I overreacted?

I don't even understanding what you are asking.

The fact that you even think this is a question shows you are outdated in your thinking. You may want to think more like your child.

Children want and need to understand how the normal world works.

You may want to think past your nose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my dd is in k at gds. today she asked me whether she should marry a man or a woman. She said her classmate has two dads so she thinks she can also marry a woman. I am not against same sex marriage, but gds taught prek/k about same sex marriage. Do you think it is too much or am I overreacted?

I don't even understanding what you are asking.

The fact that you even think this is a question shows you are outdated in your thinking. You may want to think more like your child.

Children want and need to understand how the normal world works.

You may want to think past your nose.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

"I've always loved this line. As if this is how we should base moral decisions. I'm sure in 1938 Germany, people were telling non-Nazis that they were "on the wrong side of history" as well.

"But since you brought up a more serious question....

"My first response is to do or say nothing. When DD was 4, she really didn't even notice this difference about one of her friends/ classmates. She played at the child's house and "Miss X" or "Miss Y" were always around but frankly, I don't think she caught the difference between most other houses where, say, a mom and nanny were also home all the time. She's a little older now and the friendship with that particular child has faded somewhat because of a move, so we're really not in as much contact. With my older kids, it has only come up briefly. I have said – briefly, without a lot of fanfare -- that yes, there are families that are constructed in this way (two moms/ two dads) and that I personally do not approve of it, but that the people are lovely and should be treated as such. So far, that's been the extent of it.

"



PLEASE tell me that you didn't intentionally just equate equality for two-mom and two-dad families with Nazism in 1938 Germany. Please tell me that was a mistake.

Please tell me that you aren't so desperate/ determined to find an offense under every rock you see that you read it that way. Please tell me you don't live your life that way.

How about this...I will send when you wrote to my grandmother (who survived the camps) - we will let her see if she thinks it offensive what you said. You can post your phone number and I will have her call you.

If you don't think what you said was offensive, you can talk directly to a survivor...and tell her so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my dd is in k at gds. today she asked me whether she should marry a man or a woman. She said her classmate has two dads so she thinks she can also marry a woman. I am not against same sex marriage, but gds taught prek/k about same sex marriage. Do you think it is too much or am I overreacted?

I don't even understanding what you are asking.

The fact that you even think this is a question shows you are outdated in your thinking. You may want to think more like your child.

Children want and need to understand how the normal world works.

You may want to think past your nose.

So, the normal world has famlies with a mommy and daddy; and families with 2 mommies; and famlies with two daddies; and families with just one mom; and famlies with just one dad; and famlies with grandma.

This is normal to kids, until you tell them it's NOT normal.

[Anonymous]

The comparison to Nazi Germany should be offensive to all of us, but doing it in the context of same-sex couples is particularly stunning with the Nazi persecution of gay and lesbian people. Here's a backgrounder from the Holocaust Museum, in the hope that you'll understand why this is such an offensive argument: https://www.ushmm.org/learn/students/learning-materials-and-resources/homosexuals-victims-of-the-nazi-era/persecution-of-homosexuals