Stop transgender kids

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone stop to consider that maybe the little girl that wants to dress in "boy clothes" (as in pants, t-shirts, etc), wants to play with trucks, and doesn't like "girl things", might be... gasp!... a lesbian? Or even a straight woman that is gender non-conforming?

Instead, more and more, these tomboys and feminine boys are told that they were "born the wrong gender", and need to be raised as the opposite sex.

It's very 1950s to me. Girls are expected to play with barbies, boys are expected to play with trucks. If they don't, that's not okay, and they must be born the wrong gender.

And then later, when those same kids enter puberty, no doubt they will be given drugs and hormones and possibly go through gender reassignment surgery so that they get the "right" gender. So we're going to drug up these little girls and turn their genitalia into a penis because.... they don't really like barbies and princesses and the color pink?

I feel really bad for these children.


Being a 'tomboy' as a girl actually had nothing to do with bring transgendered. I mean it doesn't mean that you aren't, but one preference doesn't have anything to do with the other.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/12/homosexuality-may-start-womb

This study is based on the most extreme case (where girls are exposed to so much extra testosterone in the womb that they have masculinized female genitals)

http://www.majickalproductions.biz/bekasite/resouces/In-Womb%20Development.htm

http://www.whattoexpect.com/wom/pregnancy/0607/tomboy-behavior-linked-to-high-testosterone-exposure-in-the-womb

This study says 30% of tomboy girls become lesbians. My guess is that current researchers 'desire' that tomboys are gay to push an agenda, but still even if you believe 30% the vast majority of tomboy girls are not lesbians:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2013383/Tomboys-likely-turn-lesbians-genetic-make-up.html

I personally have a group of good lesbian friends and not one of them was a tomboy - they all instead had very close female friends and were highly interested in females even as children.

- former tomboy who has no lesbian tendencies at all (sorry guys)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone stop to consider that maybe the little girl that wants to dress in "boy clothes" (as in pants, t-shirts, etc), wants to play with trucks, and doesn't like "girl things", might be... gasp!... a lesbian? Or even a straight woman that is gender non-conforming?

Instead, more and more, these tomboys and feminine boys are told that they were "born the wrong gender", and need to be raised as the opposite sex.

It's very 1950s to me. Girls are expected to play with barbies, boys are expected to play with trucks. If they don't, that's not okay, and they must be born the wrong gender.

And then later, when those same kids enter puberty, no doubt they will be given drugs and hormones and possibly go through gender reassignment surgery so that they get the "right" gender. So we're going to drug up these little girls and turn their genitalia into a penis because.... they don't really like barbies and princesses and the color pink?

I feel really bad for these children.


Being a 'tomboy' as a girl actually had nothing to do with bring transgendered. I mean it doesn't mean that you aren't, but one preference doesn't have anything to do with the other.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/12/homosexuality-may-start-womb

This study is based on the most extreme case (where girls are exposed to so much extra testosterone in the womb that they have masculinized female genitals)

http://www.majickalproductions.biz/bekasite/resouces/In-Womb%20Development.htm

http://www.whattoexpect.com/wom/pregnancy/0607/tomboy-behavior-linked-to-high-testosterone-exposure-in-the-womb

This study says 30% of tomboy girls become lesbians. My guess is that current researchers 'desire' that tomboys are gay to push an agenda, but still even if you believe 30% the vast majority of tomboy girls are not lesbians:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2013383/Tomboys-likely-turn-lesbians-genetic-make-up.html

I personally have a group of good lesbian friends and not one of them was a tomboy - they all instead had very close female friends and were highly interested in females even as children.

- former tomboy who has no lesbian tendencies at all (sorry guys)

NP. I'll add that I have a number of adult tomboy friends who aren't lesbians. And a few male friends with stereotypical "female" characteristics who aren't gay. (Also, male friends with masculine traits who are gay.)
Anonymous
OP your ignorance is showing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Well I am concerned about the well being of the other 99% of girls, not the 1% of transgenders. There have been two cases in the last week of men dressing as women and than assaulting woman in the bathroom. I am not against transgender but your "daughter" shouldn't be allowed in women's bathrooms. She has a penis and needs to use the urinals. I would think the safety of the majority is more important than feeling better about using a certain bathroom for the 1% that is confused.


Argh, bathroom panic.

You are conflating two separate issues.

1. Using the bathroom for its intended purpose.
2. Using the bathroom for something other than its intended purpose (as a place to assault people, for example).

And people's genitalia are not relevant to either of these issues.


Sure and lets start putting in urinals in the girls bathrooms in school so the transgender and cross-dressing kids can pull up their dress and pee easier. Better yet, let's all just share bathrooms. No need for girls and boys bathroom anymore. That is the democratic politically correct way!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's kind of like how many wanted to classify Shiloh Jolie Pitt as being transgender, simply because she dresses "as a boy" and likes to be called John. Typical gender nonconforming girl, that in a different era would have probably grown up to be a lesbian and that would be it. Nowadays, everyone is rushing to say Shiloh is really a he and we need to address her as such. It's messed up.


Leave it up to the parents.


What if your parents are absolutely crazy, like Brangelina, and promote the idea of having a gender non-conforming child as part of their "rainbow," to up their personal liberal cred?


I dont think it's a liberal/conservative thing. Bruce Jenner is as conservative as they come, and yet she is transgender. I think being trans actually appeals to the very conservative types who believe girls should "act like girls" and boys should "act like boys"


Ha. Bruce Jenner is not "as conservative as they come," not by a long shot. That is all part of his publicity stunt, of course.


Exactly. He is also now saying he is attracted to me. Pretty sure that isn't "as conservative as they come." It is a ratings ploy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Sure and lets start putting in urinals in the girls bathrooms in school so the transgender and cross-dressing kids can pull up their dress and pee easier. Better yet, let's all just share bathrooms. No need for girls and boys bathroom anymore. That is the democratic politically correct way!


You sure are getting upset about other people's bathroom-using. Why?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone stop to consider that maybe the little girl that wants to dress in "boy clothes" (as in pants, t-shirts, etc), wants to play with trucks, and doesn't like "girl things", might be... gasp!... a lesbian? Or even a straight woman that is gender non-conforming?

Instead, more and more, these tomboys and feminine boys are told that they were "born the wrong gender", and need to be raised as the opposite sex.

It's very 1950s to me. Girls are expected to play with barbies, boys are expected to play with trucks. If they don't, that's not okay, and they must be born the wrong gender.

And then later, when those same kids enter puberty, no doubt they will be given drugs and hormones and possibly go through gender reassignment surgery so that they get the "right" gender. So we're going to drug up these little girls and turn their genitalia into a penis because.... they don't really like barbies and princesses and the color pink?

I feel really bad for these children.


I think your assumptions are way off base, OP. Where do you get that this is happening? I know a small number of kids who seem to identify with the other gender and the parents are split between those who a) actively resist and b ) officially go with the flow but unofficially encourage the same-gender identification in every sort of subtle way imaginable. The articles I have read all show families who, eventually, came to accept something that was originally resisted. I genuinely have never once heard anything like what you say.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone stop to consider that maybe the little girl that wants to dress in "boy clothes" (as in pants, t-shirts, etc), wants to play with trucks, and doesn't like "girl things", might be... gasp!... a lesbian? Or even a straight woman that is gender non-conforming?

Instead, more and more, these tomboys and feminine boys are told that they were "born the wrong gender", and need to be raised as the opposite sex.

It's very 1950s to me. Girls are expected to play with barbies, boys are expected to play with trucks. If they don't, that's not okay, and they must be born the wrong gender.

And then later, when those same kids enter puberty, no doubt they will be given drugs and hormones and possibly go through gender reassignment surgery so that they get the "right" gender. So we're going to drug up these little girls and turn their genitalia into a penis because.... they don't really like barbies and princesses and the color pink?

I feel really bad for these children.


I think your assumptions are way off base, OP. Where do you get that this is happening? I know a small number of kids who seem to identify with the other gender and the parents are split between those who a) actively resist and b ) officially go with the flow but unofficially encourage the same-gender identification in every sort of subtle way imaginable. The articles I have read all show families who, eventually, came to accept something that was originally resisted. I genuinely have never once heard anything like what you say.


And those responses from parents are normal and understood (just not by the child). A parent of a transgendered child described it to me like this: A was a wonderful child, did all of these things, was a loved part of our household. A also told us that they didn't feel like their outside matched the inside. We didn't take it seriously until something happened and we couldn't push it away any longer. A transitioning to B for school meant finding a different school, where nobody knew A, nobody would question why A was now B. It meant dealing with teachers who didn't understand and didn't want to understand that this was a choice between our child's life or no life, not just a whim. We didn't ask for this, nobody did, and certainly not B. Now, B is happier, and I'm not longer afraid that my child is going to be dead soon. But A is dead, never coming back, and we have B to love and cherish. While we have history with B, sometimes it's a history that just doesn't apply anymore. Sometimes it's hard to remember that this happy child is B, not A, but we're getting there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Well I am concerned about the well being of the other 99% of girls, not the 1% of transgenders. There have been two cases in the last week of men dressing as women and than assaulting woman in the bathroom. I am not against transgender but your "daughter" shouldn't be allowed in women's bathrooms. She has a penis and needs to use the urinals. I would think the safety of the majority is more important than feeling better about using a certain bathroom for the 1% that is confused.


Argh, bathroom panic.

You are conflating two separate issues.

1. Using the bathroom for its intended purpose.
2. Using the bathroom for something other than its intended purpose (as a place to assault people, for example).

And people's genitalia are not relevant to either of these issues.


Sure and lets start putting in urinals in the girls bathrooms in school so the transgender and cross-dressing kids can pull up their dress and pee easier. Better yet, let's all just share bathrooms. No need for girls and boys bathroom anymore. That is the democratic politically correct way!


My child's elementry school has cooed bathroom. Not sure what the big deal is at all. They go into a stall and pee, they aren't giving blowjobs in there, they are children.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's kind of like how many wanted to classify Shiloh Jolie Pitt as being transgender, simply because she dresses "as a boy" and likes to be called John. Typical gender nonconforming girl, that in a different era would have probably grown up to be a lesbian and that would be it. Nowadays, everyone is rushing to say Shiloh is really a he and we need to address her as such. It's messed up.


Leave it up to the parents.


What if your parents are absolutely crazy, like Brangelina, and promote the idea of having a gender non-conforming child as part of their "rainbow," to up their personal liberal cred?


I dont think it's a liberal/conservative thing. Bruce Jenner is as conservative as they come, and yet she is transgender. I think being trans actually appeals to the very conservative types who believe girls should "act like girls" and boys should "act like boys"


Her name is Caitlyn asshole.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's kind of like how many wanted to classify Shiloh Jolie Pitt as being transgender, simply because she dresses "as a boy" and likes to be called John. Typical gender nonconforming girl, that in a different era would have probably grown up to be a lesbian and that would be it. Nowadays, everyone is rushing to say Shiloh is really a he and we need to address her as such. It's messed up.


Leave it up to the parents.


What if your parents are absolutely crazy, like Brangelina, and promote the idea of having a gender non-conforming child as part of their "rainbow," to up their personal liberal cred?


I dont think it's a liberal/conservative thing. Bruce Jenner is as conservative as they come, and yet she is transgender. I think being trans actually appeals to the very conservative types who believe girls should "act like girls" and boys should "act like boys"


Her name is Caitlyn asshole.


Bruce.
Anonymous
"If you pay attention to news stories about transgender people, especially young kids, you will notice that they are often brimming with stereotypes. Here are just some examples:

So I might have had a daughter who would paint her nails with me and play Barbies. I could have helped her braid her hair and, later, pick out her prom dress. I could have watched her walk down the aisle with pride. I am sure that life would have been good, but I promise it wouldn’t be nearly as fulfilling as the journey I’ve had with my son.
The above quote is from the mother of FtM child, who also describes her child as getting a ‘boy haircut’. The child, who is 16 years old, has also gotten “top surgery”, which is the cutesy name for a double mastectomy often used in these stories.

Another parent tells this story:

she requested that we get rid of the horrible “boy” things that had plagued her all of her young life. That year, she worked with a joyful, fevered intensity as she yanked down every single item in the house that hinted “boy” to her and dropped them with relief into the front room.
The mother of the child described by this quote goes on to describe how she suddenly realized that her child “never was a boy” because he didn’t make car noises when he played. She also says:

Quickly my mind raced through the catalog of her interests, behaviors and clothing choices, and I saw how many clues I had missed.
It cannot be said any clearer: this parent really believes that a child’s interests and clothing choices are significant indicators when it comes to administering medical treatment that will have to be continued for their entire lives.

She goes on to describe her child like this:

My beautiful teenage daughter, with her flowing hair, strong sense of style and love of gossip
Apparently male children cannot have flowing hair, a sense of style and a love of gossip.

In another article, we find this quote:

Except both these girls were born boys. Within a couple of years, as soon as they could talk in fact, they were preoccupied with anything normally associated with girls – dresses, jewellery, dolls and girls’ names.
The toy preferences of toddlers are again taken as signs that there is something wrong with them (born in the “wrong body”). Male children playing with dolls are pathologized.

According to their parents, from an early age Lily and Jessica were very aware of gender. They became increasingly unhappy with their gender and were drawn to dresses and toys more typically associated with girls.
If a child is told that their interests are “wrong”, and that a specific toy or item of clothing is “for girls”, then OF COURSE the child is going to be “unhappy with their gender”. Children are growing up in a time where gender stereotypes are VICIOUSLY enforced, often by parents.

And not unhappy in the way a child might be unhappy if you forced them to tidy their bedroom or eat sprouts. Lily and Jessica were becoming uncomfortable and even distressed about being boys.

“If I had to live as a boy I would be really upset,” Lily says. “Really upset. But now I’m sort of living as a girl I feel much better.” It’s a medical condition known as gender dysphoria or gender variance.
Has anyone asked this child what he thinks “living as a boy” and “living as a girl” means?
Anonymous
"You feel you’re different and you don’t want to be who you are, you want to change,” she told Channel 9’s Inside Story.

She grew up as a boy named Ethan, but her family say they always noticed that she was female orientated.

“Ethan was always gentle to me, Ethan has always been Evie,” her father Scott said.

“I kept thinking it’s alright, once she gets to school, she’ll have to play with the boys and they will sort her out and teach her how to be a boy.”

Her parents plan on giving her puberty blockers when Evie starts to hit puberty to allow her more time to think about the future."


http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/02/25/12/46/the-amazing-story-of-a-10-year-old-school-boy-becoming-a-girl
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Well I am concerned about the well being of the other 99% of girls, not the 1% of transgenders. There have been two cases in the last week of men dressing as women and than assaulting woman in the bathroom. I am not against transgender but your "daughter" shouldn't be allowed in women's bathrooms. She has a penis and needs to use the urinals. I would think the safety of the majority is more important than feeling better about using a certain bathroom for the 1% that is confused.


Argh, bathroom panic.

You are conflating two separate issues.

1. Using the bathroom for its intended purpose.
2. Using the bathroom for something other than its intended purpose (as a place to assault people, for example).

And people's genitalia are not relevant to either of these issues.


Sure and lets start putting in urinals in the girls bathrooms in school so the transgender and cross-dressing kids can pull up their dress and pee easier. Better yet, let's all just share bathrooms. No need for girls and boys bathroom anymore. That is the democratic politically correct way!


My child's elementry school has cooed bathroom. Not sure what the big deal is at all. They go into a stall and pee, they aren't giving blowjobs in there, they are children.



So you are okay with co-ed bathrooms at your work place, middle and high schools too? You walk in, men are at the urinals while you are blotting your lipstick. Awesome!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Well I am concerned about the well being of the other 99% of girls, not the 1% of transgenders. There have been two cases in the last week of men dressing as women and than assaulting woman in the bathroom. I am not against transgender but your "daughter" shouldn't be allowed in women's bathrooms. She has a penis and needs to use the urinals. I would think the safety of the majority is more important than feeling better about using a certain bathroom for the 1% that is confused.


Argh, bathroom panic.

You are conflating two separate issues.

1. Using the bathroom for its intended purpose.
2. Using the bathroom for something other than its intended purpose (as a place to assault people, for example).

And people's genitalia are not relevant to either of these issues.


Sure and lets start putting in urinals in the girls bathrooms in school so the transgender and cross-dressing kids can pull up their dress and pee easier. Better yet, let's all just share bathrooms. No need for girls and boys bathroom anymore. That is the democratic politically correct way!


My child's elementry school has cooed bathroom. Not sure what the big deal is at all. They go into a stall and pee, they aren't giving blowjobs in there, they are children.



So you are okay with co-ed bathrooms at your work place, middle and high schools too? You walk in, men are at the urinals while you are blotting your lipstick. Awesome!

Co-ed bathrooms usually don't have urinals. They have stalls where people of any gender can go to use the toilet in privacy. I'd be fine with that.

And it worked on Ally McBeal, 20 years ago.
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