James Holmes--The sentencing verdict is really bothering me

Anonymous
It bugged me at first too but then I figure he won't last long in prison, so he'll probably be dead in less time than it would take the state to execute him anyway and it will be cheaper too. That said, as a nation we really fail when it comes to treating the mentally ill (though in many cases they don't think they need to be treated so I'm not sure what we can do about that.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:He was given a "life sentence" for killing 12 people ..the Boston Marathon bomber was sentenced to death for killing 3.. Wonder what James Holmes' sentence was going to be if he was Muslim or Black?


Killing 4 and injuring 264 causing 17 people to be multiple amputees.


Np, but didn't homes injure close to a hundred?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Death sentence due to mental illness won't sit well with me either.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Death sentence due to mental illness won't sit well with me either.



+1000. Sentencing a schizophrenic man to death is barbaric. In fact, the death penalty is barbaric. Our prison system has to be overhauled. Solitary confinement is terrible. Minimum drug sentences are terrible. Trying children as adults is barbaric. Horrible.
Anonymous
People on death row are in lockdown around 23 hours a day. They are permitted time outside in a cage and a shower. It is not pleasant!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:He was given a "life sentence" for killing 12 people ..the Boston Marathon bomber was sentenced to death for killing 3.. Wonder what James Holmes' sentence was going to be if he was Muslim or Black?


Killing 4 and injuring 264 causing 17 people to be multiple amputees.


Np, but didn't homes injure close to a hundred?


70 one quadriplegic and one with brain damage
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:He was given a "life sentence" for killing 12 people ..the Boston Marathon bomber was sentenced to death for killing 3.. Wonder what James Holmes' sentence was going to be if he was Muslim or Black?


Killing 4 and injuring 264 causing 17 people to be multiple amputees.


Holmes has similar stats, he shot 80 people.
Anonymous
Personally I think that forcing someone to a miserable existence in prison is a huge punishment in itself.

Having the option to die is a luxury, an easy way out.

I say let the person live...And make that life as miserable as can be.

If this man is truly mentally ill however, I can see why he shouldn't get death.

However, if my loved one was a victim of this guy's brutality, I may think much differently.

By the way, this guy grew up on the street behind my Sister's in Rancho PQ. He graduated along with my nephew from Westview High School which is in an affluent suburb in San Diego, Northern.

His parents still reside in the same house, it always gives me a creepy feeling when I drive by their street.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:He was given a "life sentence" for killing 12 people ..the Boston Marathon bomber was sentenced to death for killing 3.. Wonder what James Holmes' sentence was going to be if he was Muslim or Black?


Killing 4 and injuring 264 causing 17 people to be multiple amputees.


Holmes has similar stats, he shot 80 people.


It wasn't just three in Boston, so I listed the actual count. While horrifying it isn't a similar "stat" either.

Personally I think neither should have the death penalty however I am not going to pretend it was the same situation either.
Anonymous
I haven't followed the trial and I don't know anything about his mental state. If I was juror the only thing that really would have swayed me in a case like this is if he had a documented history of mental illness, did not know the difference between fantasy and reality and clearly should not have been out walking around among others because he was an obvious potential danger to himself and to others.

If I got any sort of sense that he had control over his actions and understood what he was doing - nope. Not swayed.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Death sentence due to mental illness won't sit well with me either.



+1000. Sentencing a schizophrenic man to death is barbaric. In fact, the death penalty is barbaric. Our prison system has to be overhauled. Solitary confinement is terrible. Minimum drug sentences are terrible. Trying children as adults is barbaric. Horrible.


If you don't believe in the death penalty you should really mention that during jury selection.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He was mentally ill but knew what he was doing. Like the Unabomber. If you know right from wrong
,you don't meet the definition of criminally insane.

This is where the law contrdicts itself. His disease is legally recognized in every country.
Yet lawyers know very little about it. As awful as the crime is, I do think a person with full mental capacity doing the same is worse.
Nobody knows what 'knew he was doing wrong' means for a very ill person or someone in a psychosis.

Most likely they will already have lost their grip om reality, and believe they are what in some way has to be done.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Death sentence due to mental illness won't sit well with me either.



+1000. Sentencing a schizophrenic man to death is barbaric. In fact, the death penalty is barbaric. Our prison system has to be overhauled. Solitary confinement is terrible. Minimum drug sentences are terrible. Trying children as adults is barbaric. Horrible.


If you don't believe in the death penalty you should really mention that during jury selection.


I would always mention that in jury duty. I have never been called for a murder trial though.
Anonymous
How would putting him to death (in 10 years+) make you feel safer as you choose your seat in a movie theater? I see absolutely no connection there or rational choice for the death penalty in these circumstances.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Death sentence due to mental illness won't sit well with me either.



+1000. Sentencing a schizophrenic man to death is barbaric. In fact, the death penalty is barbaric. Our prison system has to be overhauled. Solitary confinement is terrible. Minimum drug sentences are terrible. Trying children as adults is barbaric. Horrible.


If you don't believe in the death penalty you should really mention that during jury selection.


Doesn't that guarantee a jury that is pro-death penalty, thus defeating the whole purpose of a jury of peers?
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