White People - the documentary

[Anonymous]

We just returned from a trip to Europe. That's the history of white people. Meanwhile, back in Africa, things are the same as they have always been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This threads is just a small example of why conversations about race can't progress and move forward toward reconciliation. Black and brown people are mad and want to be heard and white people don't care because they are just fine -- despite the tangible and non-tangible benefits many received via redlining and so on -- and so why should they talk/think/care about this?

'Murica man.

The "Murica" reference justnkakesmyounsoundmlike an idiot. In any event, when everything becomes a "micro-aggression" and whites are held accountable for actions they didn't commit, when every success or failure is deemed a result of race, etc., you burn people out and they cease to hear the message.

truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This threads is just a small example of why conversations about race can't progress and move forward toward reconciliation. Black and brown people are mad and want to be heard and white people don't care because they are just fine -- despite the tangible and non-tangible benefits many received via redlining and so on -- and so why should they talk/think/care about this?

'Murica man.

What will be the obvious signs when we have reached this point? I would like to continue conversations about race but I keep having the same ones over and over again and I'm a bit burnout. My friendships are starting to suffer because I hear the same exact messaging over and over again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole concept of "white privilege" is racist to the core. It is simply turning the tables on past racism. It is just as wrong in this context as it was in times past.

I'd love to assume that you're just trolling, but there are too many other people who ignore all the statistics, studies, data and anecdotes that demonstrate otherwise and hold similarly ignorant, narrowminded points of view to be safe in that assumption. Unfortunately, whichever group you fall into,trying to convince you otherwise is probably futile.

Isn't it just another way to blame the victim?

Think about it.

My white children are now victims of white privilege. Instead of learning who they are deep down to the core, their whiteness will define who they are. I almost wish I had married my very dark-skinned former flame since this color war doesn't appear to be ending.

Using the word victim to describe white privilege is so offensive and I'm a white woman. I do not understand why it is so difficult for some white people to accept that white privilege does exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole concept of "white privilege" is racist to the core. It is simply turning the tables on past racism. It is just as wrong in this context as it was in times past.

I'd love to assume that you're just trolling, but there are too many other people who ignore all the statistics, studies, data and anecdotes that demonstrate otherwise and hold similarly ignorant, narrowminded points of view to be safe in that assumption. Unfortunately, whichever group you fall into,trying to convince you otherwise is probably futile.

Isn't it just another way to blame the victim?

Think about it.

My white children are now victims of white privilege. Instead of learning who they are deep down to the core, their whiteness will define who they are. I almost wish I had married my very dark-skinned former flame since this color war doesn't appear to be ending.

Using the word victim to describe white privilege is so offensive and I'm a white woman. I do not understand why it is so difficult for some white people to accept that white privilege does exist.

Because not all of us have been brainwashed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This threads is just a small example of why conversations about race can't progress and move forward toward reconciliation. Black and brown people are mad and want to be heard and white people don't care because they are just fine -- despite the tangible and non-tangible benefits many received via redlining and so on -- and so why should they talk/think/care about this?

'Murica man.

What will be the obvious signs when we have reached this point? I would like to continue conversations about race but I keep having the same ones over and over again and I'm a bit burnout. My friendships are starting to suffer because I hear the same exact messaging over and over again.

+ 1. I have yet to hear anyone in any discussion on the topic provide a answer to when enough will be enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This threads is just a small example of why conversations about race can't progress and move forward toward reconciliation. Black and brown people are mad and want to be heard and white people don't care because they are just fine -- despite the tangible and non-tangible benefits many received via redlining and so on -- and so why should they talk/think/care about this?

'Murica man.

What will be the obvious signs when we have reached this point? I would like to continue conversations about race but I keep having the same ones over and over again and I'm a bit burnout. My friendships are starting to suffer because I hear the same exact messaging over and over again.

I don't know because I am burned out too. I get tired of talking to people who don't care to understand or see a different viewpoint on any issue involving race if it means they can't be right or the "good person." When there is a problem with a black person the black community has to fix that it's the problem of all black folks to fix that problem, but all I hear in this thread is white people saying that they are not responsible for something someone else white did. So black folks are always part of and lumped in with the "black community" but white people get to be individuals and therefore not responsible for any bad things their "community" has done? That is tiresome.

And frankly, my life is lovely. But I don't talk and talk and talk for me and mine because, honestly we will likely be OK. We will continue to work hard and push forward and succeed. But not everybody was raised by parents and grandparents like mine and had the advantages I did, so, I keep talking. Maybe one day things will change. Or maybe we'll all die in the zombie apocalypse and it won't matter.

[Anonymous]

Oh and to show solidarity with the PP, 'Murica. F*** yeah

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh and to show solidarity with the PP, 'Murica. F*** yeah

This just shows you are an idiot. Klassy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This threads is just a small example of why conversations about race can't progress and move forward toward reconciliation. Black and brown people are mad and want to be heard and white people don't care because they are just fine -- despite the tangible and non-tangible benefits many received via redlining and so on -- and so why should they talk/think/care about this?

'Murica man.

What will be the obvious signs when we have reached this point? I would like to continue conversations about race but I keep having the same ones over and over again and I'm a bit burnout. My friendships are starting to suffer because I hear the same exact messaging over and over again.

I don't know because I am burned out too. I get tired of talking to people who don't care to understand or see a different viewpoint on any issue involving race if it means they can't be right or the "good person." When there is a problem with a black person the black community has to fix that it's the problem of all black folks to fix that problem, but all I hear in this thread is white people saying that they are not responsible for something someone else white did. So black folks are always part of and lumped in with the "black community" but white people get to be individuals and therefore not responsible for any bad things their "community" has done? That is tiresome.

And frankly, my life is lovely. But I don't talk and talk and talk for me and mine because, honestly we will likely be OK. We will continue to work hard and push forward and succeed. But not everybody was raised by parents and grandparents like mine and had the advantages I did, so, I keep talking. Maybe one day things will change. Or maybe we'll all die in the zombie apocalypse and it won't matter.

I am the PP you are responding to. Your candor and honesty is very refreshing and helpful. You bring up this concept of "black community." What is your perspective that "black community" is invoked for certain things but then for other things is considered as being "lumped in?" I think a good example might be hair. I have an adopted child of different race. More than once I have been told that the black community expects me to keep her hair tidy and kept. So now I think that using the term "black community" is ok but under difference circumstances I have a friend tell me that more than once she has felt uncomfortable because she has been in situation where other have expected her to speak on behalf of the "black community" which was offensive to her.

I feel like I need a cheat sheet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This threads is just a small example of why conversations about race can't progress and move forward toward reconciliation. Black and brown people are mad and want to be heard and white people don't care because they are just fine -- despite the tangible and non-tangible benefits many received via redlining and so on -- and so why should they talk/think/care about this?

'Murica man.

What will be the obvious signs when we have reached this point? I would like to continue conversations about race but I keep having the same ones over and over again and I'm a bit burnout. My friendships are starting to suffer because I hear the same exact messaging over and over again.

+ 1. I have yet to hear anyone in any discussion on the topic provide a answer to when enough will be enough.

Once Obama is out of office much interest will die on this topic
Expect a similar national discussion on gender relations if Hillary wins - and don't be surprised if the country experiences an increase in sexist behavior towards women. Hopefully people won't be as dismissive towards you if you ever have an opinion/story to share.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and to show solidarity with the PP, 'Murica. F*** yeah

This just shows you are an idiot. Klassy.

And this just shows you never saw Team America World Police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and to show solidarity with the PP, 'Murica. F*** yeah

This just shows you are an idiot. Klassy.

And this just shows you never saw Team America World Police.

Just because it was in Team America World Police doesn't mean you don't sound like an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This threads is just a small example of why conversations about race can't progress and move forward toward reconciliation. Black and brown people are mad and want to be heard and white people don't care because they are just fine -- despite the tangible and non-tangible benefits many received via redlining and so on -- and so why should they talk/think/care about this?

'Murica man.

What will be the obvious signs when we have reached this point? I would like to continue conversations about race but I keep having the same ones over and over again and I'm a bit burnout. My friendships are starting to suffer because I hear the same exact messaging over and over again.

+ 1. I have yet to hear anyone in any discussion on the topic provide a answer to when enough will be enough.

Once Obama is out of office much interest will die on this topic
Expect a similar national discussion on gender relations if Hillary wins - and don't be surprised if the country experiences an increase in sexist behavior towards women. Hopefully people won't be as dismissive towards you if you ever have an opinion/story to share.

Asking that people provide a framework of a solution is not dismissive. It is an important part of the discussion that is never addressed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole concept of "white privilege" is racist to the core. It is simply turning the tables on past racism. It is just as wrong in this context as it was in times past.

I'd love to assume that you're just trolling, but there are too many other people who ignore all the statistics, studies, data and anecdotes that demonstrate otherwise and hold similarly ignorant, narrowminded points of view to be safe in that assumption. Unfortunately, whichever group you fall into,trying to convince you otherwise is probably futile.

Isn't it just another way to blame the victim?

Think about it.

My white children are now victims of white privilege. Instead of learning who they are deep down to the core, their whiteness will define who they are. I almost wish I had married my very dark-skinned former flame since this color war doesn't appear to be ending.

Using the word victim to describe white privilege is so offensive and I'm a white woman. I do not understand why it is so difficult for some white people to accept that white privilege does exist.

It comes full circle, dummy.

My WHITE kids will be victims of this insanity unless we all grow up and get past this bullshit.

They're not to blame for anything. They're now growing up in a country where the white person is the enemy. Should I start teaching them about their white privilege? fuck no

Why should I teach them to feel guilty for nothing they've done?

This is complete crap, folks.