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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This threads is just a small example of why conversations about race can't progress and move forward toward [b]reconciliation[/b]. Black and brown people are mad and want to be heard and white people don't care because they are just fine -- despite the tangible and non-tangible benefits many received via redlining and so on -- and so why should they talk/think/care about this?

'Murica man. [/quote]

What will be the obvious signs when we have reached this point?  I would like to continue conversations about race but I keep having the same ones over and over again and I'm a bit burnout.  My friendships are starting to suffer because I hear the same exact messaging over and over again.[/quote]

I don't know because I am burned out too. I get tired of talking to people who don't care to understand or see a different viewpoint on any issue involving race if it means they can't be right or the "good person." When there is a problem with a black person the black community has to fix that it's the problem of all black folks to fix that problem, but all I hear in this thread is white people saying that they are not responsible for something someone else white did. So black folks are always part of and lumped in with the "black community" but white people get to be individuals and therefore not responsible for any bad things their "community" has done? That is tiresome.

And frankly, my life is lovely. But I don't talk and talk and talk for me and mine because, honestly we will likely be OK. We will continue to work hard and push forward and succeed. But not everybody was raised by parents and grandparents like mine and had the advantages I did, so, I keep talking. Maybe one day things will change. Or maybe we'll all die in the zombie apocalypse and it won't matter. [/quote]

I am the PP you are responding to.  Your candor and honesty is very refreshing and helpful.  You bring up this concept of "black community." What is your perspective that "black community" is invoked for certain things but then for other things is considered as being "lumped in?"  I think a good example might be hair.  I have an adopted child of different race.  More than once I have been told that the black community expects me to keep her hair tidy and kept.  So now I think that using the term "black community" is ok but under difference circumstances I have a friend tell me that more than once she has felt uncomfortable because  she has been in situation where other have expected her to speak on behalf of the "black community" which was offensive to her.

I feel like I need a cheat sheet.[/quote]

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