White People - the documentary

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Anonymous wrote:NP-I don't think pp needs to feel bad for something she had no control over. That's ridiculous. She expressed humanity for modern discrimination, but feeling guilty b/c her ancestors owned slaves is ridiculous.

S/he also said s/he's proud of them.

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Anonymous wrote:NP-I don't think pp needs to feel bad for something she had no control over. That's ridiculous. She expressed humanity for modern discrimination, but feeling guilty b/c her ancestors owned slaves is ridiculous.

S/he also said s/he's proud of them.

she did not say she was proud of their slave ownership. She stayed that she was proud of them for "coming over from Eirope and fighting their way to providence". It is possible to be both proud of sone actions and abhor others. In any didn't, she us not responsible for the actions of those who proceed her. None of us are.

[Anonymous]

Everything is easy for white people! White people work half as hard as black people and always get paid twice as much!

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Anonymous wrote:NP-I don't think pp needs to feel bad for something she had no control over. That's ridiculous. She expressed humanity for modern discrimination, but feeling guilty b/c her ancestors owned slaves is ridiculous.

S/he also said s/he's proud of them.

she did not say she was proud of their slave ownership. She stayed that she was proud of them for "coming over from Eirope and fighting their way to providence". It is possible to be both proud of sone actions and abhor others. In any didn't, she us not responsible for the actions of those who proceed her. None of us are.

I don't think so, at least not in this example.

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Anonymous wrote:NP-I don't think pp needs to feel bad for something she had no control over. That's ridiculous. She expressed humanity for modern discrimination, but feeling guilty b/c her ancestors owned slaves is ridiculous.

S/he also said s/he's proud of them.

she did not say she was proud of their slave ownership. She stayed that she was proud of them for "coming over from Eirope and fighting their way to providence". It is possible to be both proud of sone actions and abhor others. In any didn't, she us not responsible for the actions of those who proceed her. None of us are.

I don't think so, at least not in this example. if you don't think you can be proud of some actions and abhor others then you lack reasoning ability. Life iis rarely all or nothing and people, even you, are imperfect. There are culturally acceptable acts that are accepted today that will be be abhorred 200 years from now. That doesn't discount good and honorable acts committed at the same time. Look at it this way, if someone is a great scientist and finds a cure for aids or cancer, but has offensive beliefs/actions acceptable at the time but later widely accepted as abhorrent, would his/her contributions not be laudable despite his/her shortcomings?

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Anonymous wrote:NP-I don't think pp needs to feel bad for something she had no control over. That's ridiculous. She expressed humanity for modern discrimination, but feeling guilty b/c her ancestors owned slaves is ridiculous.

S/he also said s/he's proud of them.

she did not say she was proud of their slave ownership. She stayed that she was proud of them for "coming over from Eirope and fighting their way to providence". It is possible to be both proud of sone actions and abhor others. In any didn't, she us not responsible for the actions of those who proceed her. None of us are.

I don't think so, at least not in this example.

if you don't think you can be proud of some actions and abhor others then you lack reasoning ability. Life iis rarely all or nothing and people, even you, are imperfect. There are culturally acceptable acts that are accepted today that will be be abhorred 200 years from now. That doesn't discount good and honorable acts committed at the same time. Look at it this way, if someone is a great scientist and finds a cure for aids or cancer, but has offensive beliefs/actions acceptable at the time but later widely accepted as abhorrent, would his/her contributions not be laudable despite his/her shortcomings?

Sort of like the Nazis who did a sorts of experimentation and made medical discoveries?

Not laudable or honorable. I will give you that without slavery the US could certainly not have become as wealthy and powerful without human ownership and degradation.

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Anonymous wrote:NP-I don't think pp needs to feel bad for something she had no control over. That's ridiculous. She expressed humanity for modern discrimination, but feeling guilty b/c her ancestors owned slaves is ridiculous.

S/he also said s/he's proud of them.

she did not say she was proud of their slave ownership. She stayed that she was proud of them for "coming over from Eirope and fighting their way to providence". It is possible to be both proud of sone actions and abhor others. In any didn't, she us not responsible for the actions of those who proceed her. None of us are.

I don't think so, at least not in this example.

if you don't think you can be proud of some actions and abhor others then you lack reasoning ability. Life iis rarely all or nothing and people, even you, are imperfect. There are culturally acceptable acts that are accepted today that will be be abhorred 200 years from now. That doesn't discount good and honorable acts committed at the same time. Look at it this way, if someone is a great scientist and finds a cure for aids or cancer, but has offensive beliefs/actions acceptable at the time but later widely accepted as abhorrent, would his/her contributions not be laudable despite his/her shortcomings?

Sort of like the Nazis who did a sorts of experimentation and made medical discoveries?

Not laudable or honorable. I will give you that without slavery the US could certainly not have become as wealthy and powerful without human ownership and degradation. Face it, you have no desire to see things any way but your own...that says a lot about you and none of it is good.

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So good people can never do bad things and bad people can never to good things. Life is all or nothing. Utter nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:NP-I don't think pp needs to feel bad for something she had no control over. That's ridiculous. She expressed humanity for modern discrimination, but feeling guilty b/c her ancestors owned slaves is ridiculous.

S/he also said s/he's proud of them.

she did not say she was proud of their slave ownership. She stayed that she was proud of them for "coming over from Eirope and fighting their way to providence". It is possible to be both proud of sone actions and abhor others. In any didn't, she us not responsible for the actions of those who proceed her. None of us are.

I don't think so, at least not in this example.

if you don't think you can be proud of some actions and abhor others then you lack reasoning ability. Life iis rarely all or nothing and people, even you, are imperfect. There are culturally acceptable acts that are accepted today that will be be abhorred 200 years from now. That doesn't discount good and honorable acts committed at the same time. Look at it this way, if someone is a great scientist and finds a cure for aids or cancer, but has offensive beliefs/actions acceptable at the time but later widely accepted as abhorrent, would his/her contributions not be laudable despite his/her shortcomings?

Sort of like the Nazis who did a sorts of experimentation and made medical discoveries?

Not laudable or honorable. I will give you that without slavery the US could certainly not have become as wealthy and powerful without human ownership and degradation.

Face it, you have no desire to see things any way but your own...that says a lot about you and none of it is good.

Imagine PP had written this:

My ancestors ran concentration camps and IDGAF. Of course I feel bad for the discrimination faced by Jews. But there's noway in HELL I'm going to be shamed for what my ancestors did 75 years ago.

In fact, I'm proud of my ancestors for helping to rebuild German after WWI and fighting their way to providence. I'm not going to feel ashamed just because thats in vogue now.

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Anonymous wrote:NP-I don't think pp needs to feel bad for something she had no control over. That's ridiculous. She expressed humanity for modern discrimination, but feeling guilty b/c her ancestors owned slaves is ridiculous.

S/he also said s/he's proud of them.

she did not say she was proud of their slave ownership. She stayed that she was proud of them for "coming over from Eirope and fighting their way to providence". It is possible to be both proud of sone actions and abhor others. In any didn't, she us not responsible for the actions of those who proceed her. None of us are.

I don't think so, at least not in this example.

if you don't think you can be proud of some actions and abhor others then you lack reasoning ability. Life iis rarely all or nothing and people, even you, are imperfect. There are culturally acceptable acts that are accepted today that will be be abhorred 200 years from now. That doesn't discount good and honorable acts committed at the same time. Look at it this way, if someone is a great scientist and finds a cure for aids or cancer, but has offensive beliefs/actions acceptable at the time but later widely accepted as abhorrent, would his/her contributions not be laudable despite his/her shortcomings?

Sort of like the Nazis who did a sorts of experimentation and made medical discoveries?

Not laudable or honorable. I will give you that without slavery the US could certainly not have become as wealthy and powerful without human ownership and degradation.

Face it, you have no desire to see things any way but your own...that says a lot about you and none of it is good.

Imagine PP had written this:

My ancestors ran concentration camps and IDGAF. Of course I feel bad for the discrimination faced by Jews. But there's noway in HELL I'm going to be shamed for what my ancestors did 75 years ago.

In fact, I'm proud of my ancestors for helping to rebuild German after WWI and fighting their way to providence. I'm not going to feel ashamed just because thats in vogue now.

No. Nazi actions were rooted in an evil premise. People immigrating to America to try and build a better life is not shameful.

[Anonymous]

I'm a white girl that never got any white privilege. I WANT SOME NOW !!

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Anonymous wrote:Everything is easy for white people! White people work half as hard as black people and always get paid twice as much!

Not sure if this is a sarcastic comment or not, but if not, based on what I see at my large office, I can say this is not at all true.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a white girl that never got any white privilege. I WANT SOME NOW !!

Me, too! I was the ultrapoor kid from the wrong side of the tracks with an alcoholic father and a mentally ill mother who was also an extreme hoarder. My white skin didn't save me from any of that...

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a white girl that never got any white privilege. I WANT SOME NOW !!

Me, too! I was the ultrapoor kid from the wrong side of the tracks with an alcoholic father and a mentally ill mother who was also an extreme hoarder. My white skin didn't save me from any of that...

Imagine that, on top of that, you were black. Really dark, black. Do you really think you would have had the same doors open for you in life?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a white girl that never got any white privilege. I WANT SOME NOW !!

Yes. You fucking did.

I am a white girl too. 1st in my family to attend college. grandparents came to the US from a backwater town in Italy in the 50s, practically illiterate, dad's parents came as kids. My family still things just going to college equals having been a success. They worked blue collar jobs and still do to build lives from their initial "nest egg" of a few hundred dollars (total!). I was not "privileged" in most any sense, but guess what? I did benefit from being white because I never had to think about shit that people of color routinely have to think about growing up. There is shit I KNOW I am not even aware of that I am sure plenty of women of color take for granted as something to be considered.

Poor as shit white people in America benefit from being white. Period.