I wish women would demand more in a relationship before getting intimate

[Anonymous]

I wonder if the posters in here tsk tsking about how sad this generation of women is for offering all of this free sex are the same ones on here complaining about their no good, won't pull their weight around the house, emotionally disconnected husbands. Or did we get a new batch of people here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:hey, I like easy women...

Then you should be in Hog Heaven, because clearly, there are a lot of them around.

But question: If you ever grow up and have a daughter of your own, would you feel the same way about her?

Guys can't help it if women make themselves easy. It's not guys fault is it?

Oh FFS...a woman can't enjoy sex without being called easy? And you use "easy" as if it were some dirty word. Sometimes it's perfectly OK to be "easy" if that's what a woman desired.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wishing that this particular woman in your story behaved differently is one thing, since you know she isn't getting what she wants, but why in the world do you wish people were less promiscuous overall? That is what sounds offensive.

Be offended all you want. Promiscuity cheapens sex, like it's a cup of coffee, instead of this great connection between two people.

Does someone else's promiscuity cheapen the sex you're having? If not, sounds like your energy being concerned could be better spent elsewhere.

Because we have to listen to our single friends whining and crying about how men are this and that. This cheapens my life experience.

Sounds like you need to choose different friends so you can stop cheapening your life experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wishing that this particular woman in your story behaved differently is one thing, since you know she isn't getting what she wants, but why in the world do you wish people were less promiscuous overall? That is what sounds offensive.

What's offensive is that she isn't asking that people were less promiscuous overall, it's that she's wishing women were less promiscuous overall, without holding men to any kind of similar standard. A woman could be a virgin until the day she got married but if the man she marries had 15 partners before, he could just as easily bring those STDs into the marriage and she's in the same position anyway from a health standpoint. And given how many men here say they won't move forward in a relationship with a woman who won't have sex, her pickings would be pretty slim when it came to marriage anyway. So basically women need to thread that fine line between being easy for the right guy, but not making too many mistakes in identifying the right guy to have her number be too high, and if any of those guys, even the first, gives her an STD, she's branded as a slut.

Charming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wishing that this particular woman in your story behaved differently is one thing, since you know she isn't getting what she wants, but why in the world do you wish people were less promiscuous overall? That is what sounds offensive.

Be offended all you want. Promiscuity cheapens sex, like it's a cup of coffee, instead of this great connection between two people.

+1. I know this is going to be offensive, but for men, sex is a bigger part of the relationship than for women. I've had men I know tell me, flat out, that they do not bother with long term relationships because they can get sex basically whenever they want anyway. I know that is such a cliche, but it does harm younger women, who have a biological clock, and most women do not just want to have sex for a couple months and move on to the next guy.

This is the problem with women giving it away to easy. I hear the same from a lot of men. What's the point in getting married if they can get what they want without it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wishing that this particular woman in your story behaved differently is one thing, since you know she isn't getting what she wants, but why in the world do you wish people were less promiscuous overall? That is what sounds offensive.

What's offensive is that she isn't asking that people were less promiscuous overall, it's that she's wishing women were less promiscuous overall, without holding men to any kind of similar standard. A woman could be a virgin until the day she got married but if the man she marries had 15 partners before, he could just as easily bring those STDs into the marriage and she's in the same position anyway from a health standpoint. And given how many men here say they won't move forward in a relationship with a woman who won't have sex, her pickings would be pretty slim when it came to marriage anyway. So basically women need to thread that fine line between being easy for the right guy, but not making too many mistakes in identifying the right guy to have her number be too high, and if any of those guys, even the first, gives her an STD, she's branded as a slut.

Charming.

This. 1,000,000 times over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wishing that this particular woman in your story behaved differently is one thing, since you know she isn't getting what she wants, but why in the world do you wish people were less promiscuous overall? That is what sounds offensive.

What's offensive is that she isn't asking that people were less promiscuous overall, it's that she's wishing women were less promiscuous overall, without holding men to any kind of similar standard. A woman could be a virgin until the day she got married but if the man she marries had 15 partners before, he could just as easily bring those STDs into the marriage and she's in the same position anyway from a health standpoint. And given how many men here say they won't move forward in a relationship with a woman who won't have sex, her pickings would be pretty slim when it came to marriage anyway. So basically women need to thread that fine line between being easy for the right guy, but not making too many mistakes in identifying the right guy to have her number be too high, and if any of those guys, even the first, gives her an STD, she's branded as a slut.

Charming.

Exactly. And we all know how important it is to hurry up and get the ring and not give it away for free! No matter how much the marriage sucks once you are in it, at least you are married.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And overall, I wish people were less promiscuous.

I look at a 26 year old who I have known since childhood. College graduate, so so job.

So far this woman has lived with two men, had at least 15 partners since the age of 15. Two STDs one requiring surgery. Around the time of the surgery, not one "Boyfriend" around. Even if they were around, they could do nothing for her since none of them have a thing to offer her. She is becoming more and more cynical at such a young age.
She told me that she wanted marriage, but in her world, that is almost a dirty word. She believed that if she uttered words like that to the men she dated, they would have run away. I suggested that she feel less ashamed of the M word and to treat herself well.

I am in healthcare and I see the burden of complications of sexual activity placed squarely on women. The worst thing is that many of these women have little to show for it.

I sometimes think that if more women held back and made greater demands from their partners things would change. I wish more women would be honest with themselves about what they really want.

Just a ramble, but don't want to see my dd who is just 10 in the same mess.

You worry about you.

Your post is patently offensive. This notion that they should have something to show for having sex is sexist, misogynistic, and disgusting. Shame on you.

And you worry about YOU. You clearly misread (or, more likely, projected your own distorted thoughts) onto OP's post. This friend WANTS marriage and stability.

Sometimes what people really want and what they convey are patently different. My guess is that when this person truly feels the need to settle down, it will happen.

As for the STD she got that needed surgery - sounds like HPV. It's almost unavoidable if you are dating, and there's no screening test for men. So you can be completely careful and still get it.

Correction. It is almost unavoidable if you are having sex with multiple partners, outside of a committed relationship. In other words, behaving in a promiscuous manner. That has nothing to do with "dating."

Even a virgin can get HPV from her husband on their wedding night, unless said husband was also a virgin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wishing that this particular woman in your story behaved differently is one thing, since you know she isn't getting what she wants, but why in the world do you wish people were less promiscuous overall? That is what sounds offensive.

What's offensive is that she isn't asking that people were less promiscuous overall, it's that she's wishing women were less promiscuous overall, without holding men to any kind of similar standard. A woman could be a virgin until the day she got married but if the man she marries had 15 partners before, he could just as easily bring those STDs into the marriage and she's in the same position anyway from a health standpoint. And given how many men here say they won't move forward in a relationship with a woman who won't have sex, her pickings would be pretty slim when it came to marriage anyway. So basically women need to thread that fine line between being easy for the right guy, but not making too many mistakes in identifying the right guy to have her number be too high, and if any of those guys, even the first, gives her an STD, she's branded as a slut.

Charming.

yup. OP is a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wishing that this particular woman in your story behaved differently is one thing, since you know she isn't getting what she wants, but why in the world do you wish people were less promiscuous overall? That is what sounds offensive.

Be offended all you want. Promiscuity cheapens sex, like it's a cup of coffee, instead of this great connection between two people.

Newsflash: Sometimes -- OFTEN -- sex is just fucking. It's fun. It's not sacred, it doesn't have to be a "great connection between two people." Sometimes people just want to bang. This is true for both women and men. Your antiquated notion suggests to me you've been sheltered in either religion or romance novels, and perhaps both.

[Anonymous]

I have had a grand total of 1 sexual partner in my life. I have 2 STDs- HPV and herpes. Did you know you can get herpes if someone performs oral sex on you? You can. So does these STDs brand me as a slut?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And overall, I wish people were less promiscuous.

I look at a 26 year old who I have known since childhood. College graduate, so so job.

So far this woman has lived with two men, had at least 15 partners since the age of 15. Two STDs one requiring surgery. Around the time of the surgery, not one "Boyfriend" around. Even if they were around, they could do nothing for her since none of them have a thing to offer her. She is becoming more and more cynical at such a young age.
She told me that she wanted marriage, but in her world, that is almost a dirty word. She believed that if she uttered words like that to the men she dated, they would have run away. I suggested that she feel less ashamed of the M word and to treat herself well.

I am in healthcare and I see the burden of complications of sexual activity placed squarely on women. The worst thing is that many of these women have little to show for it.

I sometimes think that if more women held back and made greater demands from their partners things would change. I wish more women would be honest with themselves about what they really want.

Just a ramble, but don't want to see my dd who is just 10 in the same mess.

You worry about you.

Your post is patently offensive. This notion that they should have something to show for having sex is sexist, misogynistic, and disgusting. Shame on you.

And you worry about YOU. You clearly misread (or, more likely, projected your own distorted thoughts) onto OP's post. This friend WANTS marriage and stability.

Sometimes what people really want and what they convey are patently different. My guess is that when this person truly feels the need to settle down, it will happen.

As for the STD she got that needed surgery - sounds like HPV. It's almost unavoidable if you are dating, and there's no screening test for men. So you can be completely careful and still get it.

Correction. It is almost unavoidable if you are having sex with multiple partners, outside of a committed relationship. In other words, behaving in a promiscuous manner. That has nothing to do with "dating."

My aunt was wild in the 80s - partied at Studio 54, had a lot of boyfriends, lot of fun, etc.

She settled down with a man she put through law school, who was gay and was cheating on her. This was during the height of the AIDS epidemic, and she was scared shitless.

After the divorce, she met and married my uncle who is an amazing man who turned out to be a sex addict. He was cheating on her over 20 years, and she was faithful. He gave her herpes.

So please.. shut the hell up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wishing that this particular woman in your story behaved differently is one thing, since you know she isn't getting what she wants, but why in the world do you wish people were less promiscuous overall? That is what sounds offensive.

Be offended all you want. Promiscuity cheapens sex, like it's a cup of coffee, instead of this great connection between two people.

Newsflash: Sometimes -- OFTEN -- sex is just fucking. It's fun. It's not sacred, it doesn't have to be a "great connection between two people." Sometimes people just want to bang. This is true for both women and men. Your antiquated notion suggests to me you've been sheltered in either religion or romance novels, and perhaps both.

I disagree. A lot of people desperately want to believe what you are saying, but even science does not bear it out. Sex IS fun, but for many people, they develop an emotional connection with that physical connection. Even studies showing releases of hormones in the brain during sex suggest this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wishing that this particular woman in your story behaved differently is one thing, since you know she isn't getting what she wants, but why in the world do you wish people were less promiscuous overall? That is what sounds offensive.

Be offended all you want. Promiscuity cheapens sex, like it's a cup of coffee, instead of this great connection between two people.

Newsflash: Sometimes -- OFTEN -- sex is just fucking. It's fun. It's not sacred, it doesn't have to be a "great connection between two people." Sometimes people just want to bang. This is true for both women and men. Your antiquated notion suggests to me you've been sheltered in either religion or romance novels, and perhaps both.

I disagree. A lot of people desperately want to believe what you are saying, but even science does not bear it out. Sex IS fun, but for many people, they develop an emotional connection with that physical connection. Even studies showing releases of hormones in the brain during sex suggest this.

Well, you can disagree all you want, but my personal experience tells me I'm right. I absolutely had sex before after which I felt a deep emotional connection. I also had sex that was just sex and there was no emotion involved. I'm a woman. Please stop perpetuating nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wishing that this particular woman in your story behaved differently is one thing, since you know she isn't getting what she wants, but why in the world do you wish people were less promiscuous overall? That is what sounds offensive.

Be offended all you want. Promiscuity cheapens sex, like it's a cup of coffee, instead of this great connection between two people.

+1. I know this is going to be offensive, but for men, sex is a bigger part of the relationship than for women. I've had men I know tell me, flat out, that they do not bother with long term relationships because they can get sex basically whenever they want anyway. I know that is such a cliche, but it does harm younger women, who have a biological clock, and most women do not just want to have sex for a couple months and move on to the next guy.

This is the problem with women giving it away to easy. I hear the same from a lot of men. What's the point in getting married if they can get what they want without it.

Because sex isn't the relationship, it's a part of it. I think very few men get married simply to have a sex partner.