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Please list the privileges Muslim citizens have over nonMuslim citizens in an Islamic State. |
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| 2:39, we know that Muslima is the person who ousts after midnight. That, or if you're not Muslima, you never sleep. |
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For one, an unconditional transfer of custody of children to the Muslim spouse in case of divorce. And considering that only men could marry non-Muslims in a Muslim state, and that divorce is incredibly easy for Muslim men, I'd say that's a clear privilege a Muslim has over a non-Muslim. |
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Here's more, too lazy to post:
http://www.dhspriory.org/kenny/views/views21.htm The following chapter of at-Turtûshî represents the severest and most fanatical of Muslim position regarding Christians.— Although no Muslim country of our time recognizes the dhimma system as part of its laws or constitutions; theoretically all citizens are equal, the 1935 editor of at-Turtûshî expressed this wish in a footnote to this chapter.[2] The Covenant of `Umar `Abdarrahmân b. Ghunm said: We wrote to `Umar b. al-Khattâb at the time when he made a settlement with the Christian people of Syria: In the name of God the merciful and kind. This is a letter from the Christians of such and such a city to the Commander of the Faithful. When you took holy possession of us, we asked you for a guarantee of safety (amân) for ourselves, our children, our property, and the people of our community (milla). We agreed to the following conditions: We will not build in our cities or in their neighbourhood any new monastery, church, monk's cell, or hermitage. We will not restore such buildings which fall into ruin, neither by night nor by day, especially when they are surrounded by Muslim compounds. We will keep our doors open to people passing by and to travellers; moreover, we will give food and lodging for three days to Muslims who stop at our places. We will not harbor a spy in our churches or houses. We will not hide from the Muslims any plot to hurt them. We will not teach our children the Qur'ân. We will not display our religion, or invite anyone to join it. We will not prevent any of our relatives from joining Islam if he wishes. We will respect Muslims, and give them our seats if they wish to sit down. We will not in any way imitate their way of dressing, such as wearing a cap (qalaswa = Hausa hula), a turban, or sandals, or parting the hair. We will not speak as they do, or use their surnames [like "Abû-Tâlib"]. We will not use saddles in riding. We will not wear swords, or possess or carry any arms. We will not use Arabic letters on our signet rings. We will not sell alcoholic drinks. We will clip our hair from covering our foreheads. We will keep to the same dress wherever we are, and will wear a belt. We will not display our crosses or books in any way in the roadways or markets of the Muslims. We will play the nâqûs [a wooden percussion instrument] only very lightly in our churches. We will in no way read the lessons loudly in our churches when Muslims are about. We will not have processions on Palm Sunday and Easter. We will not pray loudly while bringing our dead to the grave. We will not at all display processional lights in the roadways or markets of the Muslims. We will not bury our dead near the Muslims. We will not take possession of any slave who belongs to a Muslim through the division of war booty. We will not have places where we can look down into Muslim houses... "We bind ourselves and our community to these stipulations. In return for them we receive a guarantee of safety. If we should contravene any of the stipulations which we accepted from you and made ourselves responsible for, we shall no longer enjoy this dhimma pact, and we shall be liable to be treated as rebels and seditious people." `Umar wrote back to `Abdarrahmân b. Ghunm, saying, "Ratify what they requested, but add the following two stipulations which I impose on them in addition to what they took upon themselves: They may not buy anyone captured by the Muslims. If any of then deliberately strikes a Muslim he has broken the pact." How the tolerated classes are to ride Nâfi` related from Sâlim, a client of `Umar b. al-Khattâb, that `Umar wrote to the Christians of Syria, saying that they should stop using stirrups, but should ride sitting sideways between the pack-bags (= mangala). They should also dress differently from the Muslims, so that they may be recognized. It is also related that the Banû-Taghlib [an Arab tribe] visited `Umar b. `Abdal`azîz and said, "O Commander of the Faithful, we are Arabs; tell us what you require." `Umar asked: "Are you Christians?" They answered, "We are Christians." He told them, "Call for a barber," and they did so. He had the barber clip short the hair hanging over their forehead, and cut off a strip of their robes to make a belt for them to wear, and commanded them not to ride sitting an saddles, but only on packbags, sitting sideways. |
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Churches
Regarding churches, `Umar ibn-al-Khattâb wrote that any church which was built after the coming of Islam should be destroyed, and he forbade any new church to be built. He also commanded that the exterior of a church should not be such as to attract attention, and if any cross is displayed outside the church it should be broken over the head of the owner of the church. `Urwa ibn-Muhammad used to destroy churches in Sanâ`a.[3] This is the position of all Muslim scholars. `Umar ibn-`Abdal`azîz was particularly severe about this. He ordered that in Islamic territory no synagogue or church should be left, whether old ones or new. Al-Hasan al-Basrî held the same opinion when he said: "It is a sunna to destroy the churches which are in old or new cities, and to prevent the people under dhimma to rebuild what fell into ruins." Al-Istakhrî said: "If they want to plaster the outside of the walls, they should be prevented, but not the inside. Their churches may not be higher than the buildings of the Muslims. According to one opinion they may be of equal height, but according to another opinion they may not be." |
| Thanks, PP! |
I'm not the PP who wrote about jizya and zakat above. But it seems pretty clear that the tax paid by non-Muslims (Jizya) was often greater than the tax paid by Muslims (zakat, a 2.5% tax). For example, Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya) says there's some debate on this, but "Other scholars[61][62][63] claim the tax rates and amounts were fixed and strictly implemented. The rate of jizya and Kharaj tax, head tax and land tax respectively, exceeded 20% for all non-Muslims, and payable by new moon. In the western Islamic states, for dhimmis who were Christians and Jews of Egypt and Morocco, these taxes were often graded into three levels with minimum rate being 20% of all estimated assets and any sales.[64] The highest rates ranged from 33% to 80% of all annual farm produce on land inside the Islamic empire.[65] In the eastern Islamic states, for dhimmis who were Hindus and Jains, the tax structure were similar, with non-Muslims paying jizya and Kharaj tax rate at least twice the zakat tax rate paid by Muslims. The discriminatory and high tax rates led to mass civil protests of 1679 in India, these protests were crushed by Aurangzeb.[55][66]" ISIS is now imposing jizya (poll tax) on non-Muslims in Mosul: http://wwrn.org/articles/42778/. The poll tax of $250 seems pretty crushing in Mosul's devasted economy where few businesses are operating. Jizya seems like a pretty significant economic advantage Muslims have over non-Muslims. |
For a non-Christian example, smashing the Buddhas at Bamiyan was sanctioned by the Taliban theocracy. |
| Thank you, OP, for this new format of having a single topic per thread. That makes it possible to address Islam's position on individual issues -- and Christianity's position on the same issues -- in a much clearer format. Great idea. |
Islam did not lift Arabs up from their tribal darkness. On the contrary, Arabs have co-opted Islam and developed the body of Islamic law anchored in their tribal practices and beliefs. Quranic values and Arab values are at odds. |
Because that's what this thread is about. I'm not the poster you're arguing with, but here's something that you are clearly after, and something I feel completely comfortable saying: Christianity and Judaism, and many other religions are as bad as Islam. If all of the world's religions and holy books burned in a bonfire tomorrow, I'd throw a big party the day after. |
I generally function on four to five hrs of sleep. Again, I am not Muslima. So what if I were though? Makes zero diff who I am. But ask Jeff if I am Muslima again. I think he said no before. |