FCPS, changing student demographics are destroying the budget (as said by the Administration)

[Anonymous]

I would also add that it is slightly more than half of the property tax that goes to the schools, the rest goes to provide other county services. So, the $1.3 million property tax would not even cover one child. New builds tend to be purchased by families with school aged or near school aged children.

Please read the posts about where the money comes from. Gee. You can pay more if you like. Write a check.

[Anonymous]

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Can you explain what the cost per child is for FCPS? Because the tax on a 1.3 million house is

Real Estate (base rate) $100/Assessed Value x $1.090

$14,170

20% of budget comes from state.
Businesses also pay property tax.
People with no children pay property tax.
Families who use private schools pay property tax.

Use your brain.

You are missing the point. Look up thread. The position was that more $1.3 million houses would help fund the schools. The problem is the $1.3 million dollar houses is that they tend to have school aged children that attend the public schools- so it would be more burdensome.

Yes 20% of the budget comes from the state- as a % that is actually low compared to the rest of Virginia- but don't look for that to increase.

Businesses also pay taxes- yes they do and that is a good thing - are you suggesting that they pay more?

People with no children pay property taxes, yes they do, but there are % there are fewer of them in Fairfax than in other jurisdictions- like Arlington. Fairfax has about 16.5% of its population in public schools, Arlington has about 10%. That is a big difference to overcome. That is one reason why Arlington can afford to spend much more per student and charge a lower tax rate than Fairfax.

Families who use private school also pay property taxes.- yes they do, but I don't see % changing in the near future.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if there are a lot of 1.3 million dollar houses going up, then they needn't raise the tax rate........

I think you found the solution, make a bunch of 1.3 million houses.

Still won't be enough. NOVA residents who care about schools need to face the fact that taxes need to rise. Can't imagine most people wouldn't be happy to pay a minimal increase if it means continued high quality schools vs. their deterioration.

Well think about it, your typical 1.3 million dollar family has probably 4 people and pay a higher amount of taxes based on the value of their assessment.

Even a $1.3 million house will not pay enough in property taxes to cover the two children that will attend FCPS from that house.

Can you explain what the cost per child is for FCPS? Because the tax on a 1.3 million house is

Real Estate (base rate) $100/Assessed Value x $1.090

$14,170

Average cost per student for this year is $13,472. http://www.fcps.edu/about/index.shtml

I would also add that it is slightly more than half of the property tax that goes to the schools, the rest goes to provide other county services. So, the $1.3 million property tax would not even cover one child. New builds tend to be purchased by families with school aged or near school aged children.

Vienna's population in 1980 was 15,469. In 2010 it was 15,687. Around 25% of the population is school age. There is no way an extra 50 children out of that number are causing Fairfax County school budgets to get out of control. The housing price increases alone easily pay for those children and many more. But lets focus on those 50 children instead of the 100 additional children in Sleepy Hollow Elementary area living in one apartment complex illegally in terms of breaking lease contracts on total number of families allowed and US immigration rules.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna,_Virginia

[Anonymous]

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I would also add that it is slightly more than half of the property tax that goes to the schools, the rest goes to provide other county services. So, the $1.3 million property tax would not even cover one child. New builds tend to be purchased by families with school aged or near school aged children.

Please read the posts about where the money comes from. Gee. You can pay more if you like. Write a check.

I do, to my local school, to the Parks and Rec and to the Libraries. every year. How about you?

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There also are a large amount of residents in Vienna paying for private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Left out money from the federal government for special education and Title I. That is a substantial amount.

It is not very much. I tis less than 1% of the budget.

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Anonymous wrote:There also are a large amount of residents in Vienna paying for private school.

What is your point?

[Anonymous]

That average cost per student includes special ed students, students who require one on one aide support, esol students, etc.

The typical student with no issues costs far less than the $13-14k number you cited.

[Anonymous]

My point is 1.3 million homes with 2 children living in them is not causing the budget to shrink.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That average cost per student includes special ed students, students who require one on one aide support, esol students, etc.

The typical student with no issues costs far less than the $13-14k number you cited.

Yes, I believe it is around half that cost.

[Anonymous]

That average cost per student includes special ed students, students who require one on one aide support, esol students, etc.

The typical student with no issues costs far less than the $13-14k number you cited.

Great point. FCPS also has to pay tuition to private for some special needs kids.

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What about the multiple families sharing a one bedroom and their 10 kids.

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Anonymous wrote:

Average SAT Scores 2012-13 also from the budget document; seems to be OK.

Alexandria City 1436
Arlington County 1645
Fairfax County 1663
Falls Church City 1765
Loudoun County 1606
Manassas City 1457
Manassas Park City 1496
Montgomery County 1649
Prince George's County 1207
Prince William County 1498
US Average 1474
Virginia Average 1517

You do realize that low achievers generally do not take the SAT?

Yes. I didn't realize that your snowflake may fall in that category.

[Anonymous]

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Still won't be enough. NOVA residents who care about schools need to face the fact that taxes need to rise. Can't imagine most people wouldn't be happy to pay a minimal increase if it means continued high quality schools vs. their deterioration.

You do realize that the assessments went up for most people this year? Do you also realized that we have retired people who no longer have escalating income? And, people who are looking for jobs?

Isn't there tax relief for seniors who struggle to pay property taxes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That average cost per student includes special ed students, students who require one on one aide support, esol students, etc.

The typical student with no issues costs far less than the $13-14k number you cited.

Yes, I believe it is around half that cost.

Wow, that means Stop picking on mcmansion owners, they are actually paying more than the share, step off.