FCPS, changing student demographics are destroying the budget (as said by the Administration)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But how are they even registering.

When we registered our kids from out of state, the school required us to bring in a lease for the first two and our title paperwork for the youngest.

Wouldn't it be quite simple to identify those who did not live here by those documents? And easy to flag suspicious students by the fact that several families are using the same address?

My understanding is that is illegal to ask any questions as to immigration status.

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Still won't be enough. NOVA residents who care about schools need to face the fact that taxes need to rise. Can't imagine most people wouldn't be happy to pay a minimal increase if it means continued high quality schools vs. their deterioration.

You do realize that the assessments went up for most people this year? Do you also realized that we have retired people who no longer have escalating income? And, people who are looking for jobs?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if there are a lot of 1.3 million dollar houses going up, then they needn't raise the tax rate........

I think you found the solution, make a bunch of 1.3 million houses.

Still won't be enough. NOVA residents who care about schools need to face the fact that taxes need to rise. Can't imagine most people wouldn't be happy to pay a minimal increase if it means continued high quality schools vs. their deterioration.

Well think about it, your typical 1.3 million dollar family has probably 4 people and pay a higher amount of taxes based on the value of their assessment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if there are a lot of 1.3 million dollar houses going up, then they needn't raise the tax rate........

I think you found the solution, make a bunch of 1.3 million houses.

Still won't be enough. NOVA residents who care about schools need to face the fact that taxes need to rise. Can't imagine most people wouldn't be happy to pay a minimal increase if it means continued high quality schools vs. their deterioration.

Well think about it, your typical 1.3 million dollar family has probably 4 people and pay a higher amount of taxes based on the value of their assessment.

Even a $1.3 million house will not pay enough in property taxes to cover the two children that will attend FCPS from that house.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if there are a lot of 1.3 million dollar houses going up, then they needn't raise the tax rate........

I think you found the solution, make a bunch of 1.3 million houses.

Still won't be enough. NOVA residents who care about schools need to face the fact that taxes need to rise. Can't imagine most people wouldn't be happy to pay a minimal increase if it means continued high quality schools vs. their deterioration.

Well think about it, your typical 1.3 million dollar family has probably 4 people and pay a higher amount of taxes based on the value of their assessment.

Even a $1.3 million house will not pay enough in property taxes to cover the two children that will attend FCPS from that house.

There are too many school aged children as a percentage of the population in Fairfax. We need to attract young DINKs and keep our empty nesters.

[Anonymous]

I'd be happy to pay a "school age kid" surcharge as part of my county taxes. Sliding scale based on income?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if there are a lot of 1.3 million dollar houses going up, then they needn't raise the tax rate........

I think you found the solution, make a bunch of 1.3 million houses.

Still won't be enough. NOVA residents who care about schools need to face the fact that taxes need to rise. Can't imagine most people wouldn't be happy to pay a minimal increase if it means continued high quality schools vs. their deterioration.

Well think about it, your typical 1.3 million dollar family has probably 4 people and pay a higher amount of taxes based on the value of their assessment.

Even a $1.3 million house will not pay enough in property taxes to cover the two children that will attend FCPS from that house.

Can you explain what the cost per child is for FCPS? Because the tax on a 1.3 million house is

Real Estate (base rate) $100/Assessed Value x $1.090

$14,170

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if there are a lot of 1.3 million dollar houses going up, then they needn't raise the tax rate........

I think you found the solution, make a bunch of 1.3 million houses.

Still won't be enough. NOVA residents who care about schools need to face the fact that taxes need to rise. Can't imagine most people wouldn't be happy to pay a minimal increase if it means continued high quality schools vs. their deterioration.

Well think about it, your typical 1.3 million dollar family has probably 4 people and pay a higher amount of taxes based on the value of their assessment.

Even a $1.3 million house will not pay enough in property taxes to cover the two children that will attend FCPS from that house.

Can you explain what the cost per child is for FCPS? Because the tax on a 1.3 million house is

Real Estate (base rate) $100/Assessed Value x $1.090

$14,170

Average cost per student for this year is $13,472. http://www.fcps.edu/about/index.shtml

[Anonymous]

Can you explain what the cost per child is for FCPS? Because the tax on a 1.3 million house is

Real Estate (base rate) $100/Assessed Value x $1.090

$14,170

20% of budget comes from state.
Businesses also pay property tax.
People with no children pay property tax.
Families who use private schools pay property tax.

Use your brain.

[Anonymous]

What about business tax revenue

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS is projecting an increase of 2,160 students that, combined with changing student demographics, translates to an additional cost of $19.5 million.

Student enrollment continues to increase and student demographics continue to shift, reflecting both increasing numbers of students and increased needs. FCPS must serve all students, so enrollment growth and demographic shifts represent a significant, unavoidable expenditure increase in future years. To meet this growth, the FY 2015-2019 Capital Improvement Program (CIP) anticipates building five new elementary schools and one new high school to accommodate a projected enrollment of nearly 200,000 in FY 2019.

Can someone explain if this is due to the recession or have the flood gates been open for receiving an overwhelming amount of lower SES from other places?

In this doc it says $25 million due to demographic changes, point being. Yes we can continue to treat the injury by increasing the budget but what can we do to fix the illness and prevent this ? Do we tax everyone more? The wealthy? Try to make FCPS less desirable for this demographic? What exactly is the demographic? Why are people so afraid to pin point the issue?

http://www.fcps.edu/fs/budget/documents/proposed/FY15/FY15ProposedBudget.pdf

Are you kidding??? The fact that there economic diversity in this area is one of the only reasons we live here. The fact that most of the new houses being put up in our area (Vienna) are in the $1.3 mil. and up range and bringing in increasingly entitled population is more disturbing IMO than the fact that my kids are going to school with more non-native English speakers who work hard and don't expect everything to be handed to them. God help us if this place becomes more of a bubble than it already is.

Are you kidding? Vienna is one of the pockets of Fairfax County with the greatest class size ratios. Over 30 children in some 1st and 2nd grade classrooms this year at Marshall Road, Vienna, and Wolftrap and combination classes at places like Flint Hill. And the town residents get taxed twice for the same services. They pay Fairfax and Vienna police even though only Vienna police patrol the area 99% of the time. Same for snow removal, road repairs, you name it. Vienna residents pay more than it's fair share and they have a thriving downtown which contributes to the schools as well. The town also works hard to accommodate children in apartments afterschool through their teen center and other programs. And they have to put up with traffic coming to Tysons now and in the future especially with Fairfax deciding to change heights there from 80' to 500' overnight without much consideration to neighboring communities. It's an incorporated town with a nice downtown and community feel and it's located near metro, 66, and 495 so prices are a premium. If you don't like it, please go over to Fairfax or Annandale just a couple miles away where you can still easily find starter homes and apartments with families of all backgrounds. Nothing wrong with Fairfax or Annandale, but one can easily see that Vienna is a small pocket of wealth within Fairfax County and does not represent Fairfax County as a whole in the slightest.

[Anonymous]

It's a domino affect, the rich pay more in houses and are employed so they pay more money in business.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if there are a lot of 1.3 million dollar houses going up, then they needn't raise the tax rate........

I think you found the solution, make a bunch of 1.3 million houses.

Still won't be enough. NOVA residents who care about schools need to face the fact that taxes need to rise. Can't imagine most people wouldn't be happy to pay a minimal increase if it means continued high quality schools vs. their deterioration.

Well think about it, your typical 1.3 million dollar family has probably 4 people and pay a higher amount of taxes based on the value of their assessment.

Even a $1.3 million house will not pay enough in property taxes to cover the two children that will attend FCPS from that house.

Can you explain what the cost per child is for FCPS? Because the tax on a 1.3 million house is

Real Estate (base rate) $100/Assessed Value x $1.090

$14,170

Average cost per student for this year is $13,472. http://www.fcps.edu/about/index.shtml

I would also add that it is slightly more than half of the property tax that goes to the schools, the rest goes to provide other county services. So, the $1.3 million property tax would not even cover one child. New builds tend to be purchased by families with school aged or near school aged children.

[Anonymous]

I would also add that it is slightly more than half of the property tax that goes to the schools, the rest goes to provide other county services. So, the $1.3 million property tax would not even cover one child. New builds tend to be purchased by families with school aged or near school aged children.

Post 05/23/2014 16:06 Subject: Re:FCPS, changing student demographics are destroying the budget (as said by the Administration)

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Can you explain what the cost per child is for FCPS? Because the tax on a 1.3 million house is

Real Estate (base rate) $100/Assessed Value x $1.090

$14,170


20% of budget comes from state.
Businesses also pay property tax.
People with no children pay property tax.
Families who use private schools pay property tax.

[Anonymous]

Left out money from the federal government for special education and Title I. That is a substantial amount.