If you are an atheist

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takoma wrote:I am an atheist. When I die, I think I am no more. That does not mean that I am not concerned about what happens to others (wife and kids, friends, etc) who survive.

If there were a God that is anything like the publicity, I will be up there in heaven for having tried to be a good person, and succeeded at least moderately well, I believe. A God that punishes us for using the brains we were provided would be a real disappointment.

I'm not saying anything like you're not going to Heaven or you're going to Hell or anything, but I'm curious if you understand that this is not how it works? You don't get into Heaven for having tried to be a good person -- or even for being a good person. Entry to Heaven is for those who kept the faith and lived by God's law, not "good" people.

I'm curious as to whether you understand that that is your opinion rather than objective fact. It doesn't even take an atheist to disagree with your statement.

+1. You don't "know" anything. You believe that, and it's fine, but I cannot understand the arrogance that allows people to claim they "know" these things.

Still, that's quite a hedge by the pp. "I'm an atheist, but if there is a God, he'll let me into heaven because I'm a good person."

Um, no. And you're probably not nearly as good as you think you are. One redeeming factor about religious people is that they generally acknowledge their transgressions and seek atonement. Atheists just tend to be smug.

And this response isn't smug at all.

[Anonymous]

I think there is probably nothing after death. We are just gone, and our matter goes back into the earth. However, I'm not a 100% die hard atheist. I'm open to there being some sort of after life.

I think that if there is a god and a heaven / hell, I would go to heaven. I live a good life and I help others and do good. I live by "do unto others". So, I would like to believe that if there is a god, he would just us by how we lived our lives and treated others - not just by if we believed in his existence without any proof.

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takoma wrote:I am an atheist. When I die, I think I am no more. That does not mean that I am not concerned about what happens to others (wife and kids, friends, etc) who survive.

If there were a God that is anything like the publicity, I will be up there in heaven for having tried to be a good person, and succeeded at least moderately well, I believe. A God that punishes us for using the brains we were provided would be a real disappointment.

I'm not saying anything like you're not going to Heaven or you're going to Hell or anything, but I'm curious if you understand that this is not how it works? You don't get into Heaven for having tried to be a good person -- or even for being a good person. Entry to Heaven is for those who kept the faith and lived by God's law, not "good" people.

I'm curious as to whether you understand that that is your opinion rather than objective fact. It doesn't even take an atheist to disagree with your statement.

+1. You don't "know" anything. You believe that, and it's fine, but I cannot understand the arrogance that allows people to claim they "know" these things.

Still, that's quite a hedge by the pp. "I'm an atheist, but if there is a God, he'll let me into heaven because I'm a good person."

Um, no. And you're probably not nearly as good as you think you are. One redeeming factor about religious people is that they generally acknowledge their transgressions and seek atonement. Atheists just tend to be smug.

And this response isn't smug at all.

I'm the Hindus and Heaven PP, not the Atheists are Smug PP. But I do think there's something in the idea that constantly questioning your own behavior, revising and apologizing/atoning are important components of the Christian conception of Heaven. Yes, atheists are capable of this too, in a secular sort of way.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the same thing happens as before you are conceived, i.e. nothing.

If there is a God? To be honest, I find the idea of god as conceived by religious people to be so untenable that I don't spend any time worrying about it. But certainly I believe I have lived my life with as much integrity and generosity as most religious people.

Well, it is not about living you life with much integrity, it is about accepting his existence. The very fact that you deny Him is the biggest lack of integrity....

This is one of the most stupid comments I've ever seen. What does believing in a "god", for which there is no proof, have to do with integrity?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think our souls are separate from our bodies. When you die, you cease to exist. The end.

I really don't think there is a God, so I'm not concerned about what will happen to me. If I'm wrong, surely God is forgiving and won't hold my thoughts against me but will instead judge me on how I lived my life. If you consider all the beliefs of all of the people across the world, the majority of people are wrong when it comes to religion. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims can't all be "right." Is God going to punish people who believe what they believe largely based on their upbringing and culture?

He forgives everything but poeple who deny him, denying him is the only sin he doesn't forgive. How do you expect Someone you deny to forgive you?? What would be the point then???

Says who?

Says God

Which god?

There is one God

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the same thing happens as before you are conceived, i.e. nothing.

If there is a God? To be honest, I find the idea of god as conceived by religious people to be so untenable that I don't spend any time worrying about it. But certainly I believe I have lived my life with as much integrity and generosity as most religious people.

Well, it is not about living you life with much integrity, it is about accepting his existence. The very fact that you deny Him is the biggest lack of integrity....

This is one of the most stupid comments I've ever seen. What does believing in a "god", for which there is no proof, have to do with integrity?

There is proof you are proof the fact that your every atom in your body works perfectly without your behind doing anything to make it so is proof that there is a God controlling everything. You think, this just happened by accident?? Really??

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think our souls are separate from our bodies. When you die, you cease to exist. The end.

I really don't think there is a God, so I'm not concerned about what will happen to me. If I'm wrong, surely God is forgiving and won't hold my thoughts against me but will instead judge me on how I lived my life. If you consider all the beliefs of all of the people across the world, the majority of people are wrong when it comes to religion. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims can't all be "right." Is God going to punish people who believe what they believe largely based on their upbringing and culture?

He forgives everything but poeple who deny him, denying him is the only sin he doesn't forgive. How do you expect Someone you deny to forgive you?? What would be the point then???

Says who?

Says God

Which god?

There is one God

Not according to most religious traditions. I think it's fair to make the argument that Christianity also isn't monotheistic. But even for those traditions that are monotheistic, there are a whole lot of different personalities. It's all a matter of personal choice, reflection of your own self in addition to upbringing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the same thing happens as before you are conceived, i.e. nothing.

If there is a God? To be honest, I find the idea of god as conceived by religious people to be so untenable that I don't spend any time worrying about it. But certainly I believe I have lived my life with as much integrity and generosity as most religious people.

Well, it is not about living you life with much integrity, it is about accepting his existence. The very fact that you deny Him is the biggest lack of integrity....

This is one of the most stupid comments I've ever seen. What does believing in a "god", for which there is no proof, have to do with integrity?

There is proof you are proof the fact that your every atom in your body works perfectly without your behind doing anything to make it so is proof that there is a God controlling everything. You think, this just happened by accident?? Really??

There is something called science that may be of interest to you. It's quite remarkable, actually.

[Anonymous]

You are here and then you are gone, just as you were not here before.

I believe in certain bedrock principles of integrity, ethics, and spirituality that have no tie to any religion or deity and which I believe should be the cornerstone of everyone's life.

They are best summarized in the Golden Rule, karma, etc. Be kind to others, live your life ethically, treat others as you would wish to be treated (just scratching the surface but that's the idea).

And having done that, any god who is worth a bucket of warm spit would know that such a life was lived well and is worthy of respect. And any god that did not would be a false god not worthy of anyone's time.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the same thing happens as before you are conceived, i.e. nothing.

If there is a God? To be honest, I find the idea of god as conceived by religious people to be so untenable that I don't spend any time worrying about it. But certainly I believe I have lived my life with as much integrity and generosity as most religious people.

Well, it is not about living you life with much integrity, it is about accepting his existence. The very fact that you deny Him is the biggest lack of integrity....

This is one of the most stupid comments I've ever seen. What does believing in a "god", for which there is no proof, have to do with integrity?

There is proof you are proof the fact that your every atom in your body works perfectly without your behind doing anything to make it so is proof that there is a God controlling everything. You think, this just happened by accident?? Really??

So who created god? How does god exist and work perfectly (allegedly)? You think god just happened by accident? Really?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the same thing happens as before you are conceived, i.e. nothing.

If there is a God? To be honest, I find the idea of god as conceived by religious people to be so untenable that I don't spend any time worrying about it. But certainly I believe I have lived my life with as much integrity and generosity as most religious people.

Well, it is not about living you life with much integrity, it is about accepting his existence. The very fact that you deny Him is the biggest lack of integrity....

This is some of the most smug, arrogant, self righteous b.s. I have ever read. The kind of nonsense that lets sanctimonious hypocrites profess their righteousness and godliness and then misuse positions of power for private good (like Gov. VagProbe for ex.).

God knows that you are this ignorant and she is probably really pissed off at you right now for so completely misunderstanding her words and her commandments, and somewhere down the road awaits your comeuppance.

How utterly ignorant.

[Anonymous]

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takoma wrote:I am an atheist. When I die, I think I am no more. That does not mean that I am not concerned about what happens to others (wife and kids, friends, etc) who survive.

If there were a God that is anything like the publicity, I will be up there in heaven for having tried to be a good person, and succeeded at least moderately well, I believe. A God that punishes us for using the brains we were provided would be a real disappointment.

I'm not saying anything like you're not going to Heaven or you're going to Hell or anything, but I'm curious if you understand that this is not how it works? You don't get into Heaven for having tried to be a good person -- or even for being a good person. Entry to Heaven is for those who kept the faith and lived by God's law, not "good" people.

I hadn't realized that you were in control of the entry to heaven. Good for you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the same thing happens as before you are conceived, i.e. nothing.

If there is a God? To be honest, I find the idea of god as conceived by religious people to be so untenable that I don't spend any time worrying about it. But certainly I believe I have lived my life with as much integrity and generosity as most religious people.

Well, it is not about living you life with much integrity, it is about accepting his existence. The very fact that you deny Him is the biggest lack of integrity....

This is one of the most stupid comments I've ever seen. What does believing in a "god", for which there is no proof, have to do with integrity?

There is proof you are proof the fact that your every atom in your body works perfectly without your behind doing anything to make it so is proof that there is a God controlling everything. You think, this just happened by accident?? Really??

There is something called science that may be of interest to you. It's quite remarkable, actually.

Yeh science totally created itself

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the same thing happens as before you are conceived, i.e. nothing.

If there is a God? To be honest, I find the idea of god as conceived by religious people to be so untenable that I don't spend any time worrying about it. But certainly I believe I have lived my life with as much integrity and generosity as most religious people.

Well, it is not about living you life with much integrity, it is about accepting his existence. The very fact that you deny Him is the biggest lack of integrity....

Not if you are an atheist - of course He does not and should not exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think our souls are separate from our bodies. When you die, you cease to exist. The end.

I really don't think there is a God, so I'm not concerned about what will happen to me. If I'm wrong, surely God is forgiving and won't hold my thoughts against me but will instead judge me on how I lived my life. If you consider all the beliefs of all of the people across the world, the majority of people are wrong when it comes to religion. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims can't all be "right." Is God going to punish people who believe what they believe largely based on their upbringing and culture?

He forgives everything but poeple who deny him, denying him is the only sin he doesn't forgive. How do you expect Someone you deny to forgive you?? What would be the point then???

Says who?

Says God

So you are HIS spokesperson now?