Superintendent spending $70M for developers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not so fast on this one. They are trying to put one of the bus depots in the middle of a densely populated residential area. The land was designated for a school not a bus depot. In addition to the fact that they want to put it smack in the middle of a residential neighborhood, there are significant environmental issues specific to that site that they would have to be addressed first. It's also zoned R-200 which is residential.

Neither location is "densely populated." And residential areas are served by school buses. It makes sense to locate buses closer to where they're going to be used.

There are more than 1300 residence in the immediate area. On top of that, the homes closest to the supposed bus depot are town homes which include HOC units. That means that those people will be most affected by a pollution spewing, loud bus depot. There are no bus depots in the county currently located within residential communities. If they have a spot on East Gude Drive that would make the most sense since that area is primarily industrial.

The one in Bethesda is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This wasn't Taylor's idea, this was a county council priority, since that bus depot is right next to a Metro station.

Then let the developers pay to move the depot. Taylor has decided to use MCPS Capital Budget money.

The Shady Grove site isn't MCPS property. MCPS is basically being evicted by the county, which completely makes sense. It is a huge waste of land next to a metro station. The two new spots make much more sense.

Actually, for environmental reasons, this proposal to move the buses to residential neighborhoods is more appropriate for a lawsuit than the Wootton move.

Environmentally, it is far better to put buses closer to their routes. And to house people closer to metro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not so fast on this one. They are trying to put one of the bus depots in the middle of a densely populated residential area. The land was designated for a school not a bus depot. In addition to the fact that they want to put it smack in the middle of a residential neighborhood, there are significant environmental issues specific to that site that they would have to be addressed first. It's also zoned R-200 which is residential.

Neither location is "densely populated." And residential areas are served by school buses. It makes sense to locate buses closer to where they're going to be used.

There are more than 1300 residence in the immediate area. On top of that, the homes closest to the supposed bus depot are town homes which include HOC units. That means that those people will be most affected by a pollution spewing, loud bus depot. There are no bus depots in the county currently located within residential communities. If they have a spot on East Gude Drive that would make the most sense since that area is primarily industrial.

You're talking about a site across from a literal rock quarry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not so fast on this one. They are trying to put one of the bus depots in the middle of a densely populated residential area. The land was designated for a school not a bus depot. In addition to the fact that they want to put it smack in the middle of a residential neighborhood, there are significant environmental issues specific to that site that they would have to be addressed first. It's also zoned R-200 which is residential.

Neither location is "densely populated." And residential areas are served by school buses. It makes sense to locate buses closer to where they're going to be used.

There are more than 1300 residence in the immediate area. On top of that, the homes closest to the supposed bus depot are town homes which include HOC units. That means that those people will be most affected by a pollution spewing, loud bus depot. There are no bus depots in the county currently located within residential communities. If they have a spot on East Gude Drive that would make the most sense since that area is primarily industrial.

You're talking about a site across from a literal rock quarry.

A hidden and buffered quarry with rules about noise. Taylor’s Rockville bus depots will be in people’s backyards. That’s unlike any bus depot in MCPS. Do the people in Germantown even know a bus depot is coming to their backyards?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not so fast on this one. They are trying to put one of the bus depots in the middle of a densely populated residential area. The land was designated for a school not a bus depot. In addition to the fact that they want to put it smack in the middle of a residential neighborhood, there are significant environmental issues specific to that site that they would have to be addressed first. It's also zoned R-200 which is residential.

Neither location is "densely populated." And residential areas are served by school buses. It makes sense to locate buses closer to where they're going to be used.

There are more than 1300 residence in the immediate area. On top of that, the homes closest to the supposed bus depot are town homes which include HOC units. That means that those people will be most affected by a pollution spewing, loud bus depot. There are no bus depots in the county currently located within residential communities. If they have a spot on East Gude Drive that would make the most sense since that area is primarily industrial.

You're talking about a site across from a literal rock quarry.

A hidden and buffered quarry with rules about noise. Taylor’s Rockville bus depots will be in people’s backyards. That’s unlike any bus depot in MCPS. Do the people in Germantown even know a bus depot is coming to their backyards?

Taylor wants to add 250 school buses to mix with gravel trucks.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6NfkEGdp61k&ra=m

[Anonymous]

Let's be clear here.

We can legitimately argue about the appropriate location of a bus depot. But this isn't Taylor choosing to spend money on developers. It is not, at all.

This is MCPS having no choice to pay for a bus depot elsewhere because the county is no longer allowing it to remain at the current location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's be clear here.

We can legitimately argue about the appropriate location of a bus depot. But this isn't Taylor choosing to spend money on developers. It is not, at all.

This is MCPS having no choice to pay for a bus depot elsewhere because the county is no longer allowing it to remain at the current location.

+1 MCPS doesn't own the land where the current depot is. They have been allowed to use it for free. Now, the Council is allocating money to relocate the buses. This is all county land and county funding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This wasn't Taylor's idea, this was a county council priority, since that bus depot is right next to a Metro station.

Then let the developers pay to move the depot. Taylor has decided to use MCPS Capital Budget money.

The Shady Grove site isn't MCPS property. MCPS is basically being evicted by the county, which completely makes sense. It is a huge waste of land next to a metro station. The two new spots make much more sense.

Actually, for environmental reasons, this proposal to move the buses to residential neighborhoods is more appropriate for a lawsuit than the Wootton move.

Environmentally, it is far better to put buses closer to their routes. And to house people closer to metro.

Make use of those electric buses!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's be clear here.

We can legitimately argue about the appropriate location of a bus depot. But this isn't Taylor choosing to spend money on developers. It is not, at all.

This is MCPS having no choice to pay for a bus depot elsewhere because the county is no longer allowing it to remain at the current location.

Let's be clear here.

Taylor chose to spend $70M in THIS budget.

Taylor chose to hide the spending deep in the documents so that the Board of Education would vote on it without any public notice, opportunity to be heard or discussion of feasibility.

The search for a new bus depot has been gong on for over 15 years. There is no emergency that forced poor Taylor to hide this $70M outlay in the MCPS Capital Budget. He did that all by himself.

Taylor has also established a clear disdain for any public process, feasibility studies, transportation studies or data analysis in any of this plans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's be clear here.

We can legitimately argue about the appropriate location of a bus depot. But this isn't Taylor choosing to spend money on developers. It is not, at all.

This is MCPS having no choice to pay for a bus depot elsewhere because the county is no longer allowing it to remain at the current location.

Let's be clear here.

Taylor chose to spend $70M in THIS budget.

Taylor chose to hide the spending deep in the documents so that the Board of Education would vote on it without any public notice, opportunity to be heard or discussion of feasibility.

The search for a new bus depot has been gong on for over 15 years. There is no emergency that forced poor Taylor to hide this $70M outlay in the MCPS Capital Budget. He did that all by himself.

Taylor has also established a clear disdain for any public process, feasibility studies, transportation studies or data analysis in any of this plans.

DP

I agree with you that Taylor often acts with disdain for the community and this is certainly an example of that. However, the need for a new bus depot is real. The fact that the search has been going on for so long underscores the fact that a publicly owned property located close to transit has been underutilized for a very long time. That's really wasteful.

The issue is nobody wants a bus depot near them. It has nothing to do with Taylor spending money on developers, which is just false. The money is for space to park buses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On Tuesday the County Council will approve Taylor’s plan to spend $70M on moving a bus depot so developers can build condos. That $70M could have paid for school mold remediation or school bathroom repairs.

https://parentscoalitionmd.substack.com/p/taylor-spending-70m-on-a-plan-that

Don’t waste your time clicking on a parents coalition link that only references stuff from 2009 and 2015! Nothing substantial or useful info is included in her “article” but she definitely wants to drive traffic to her substack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's be clear here.

We can legitimately argue about the appropriate location of a bus depot. But this isn't Taylor choosing to spend money on developers. It is not, at all.

This is MCPS having no choice to pay for a bus depot elsewhere because the county is no longer allowing it to remain at the current location.

Let's be clear here.

Taylor chose to spend $70M in THIS budget.

Taylor chose to hide the spending deep in the documents so that the Board of Education would vote on it without any public notice, opportunity to be heard or discussion of feasibility.

The search for a new bus depot has been gong on for over 15 years. There is no emergency that forced poor Taylor to hide this $70M outlay in the MCPS Capital Budget. He did that all by himself.

Taylor has also established a clear disdain for any public process, feasibility studies, transportation studies or data analysis in any of this plans.

DP

I agree with you that Taylor often acts with disdain for the community and this is certainly an example of that. However, the need for a new bus depot is real. The fact that the search has been going on for so long underscores the fact that a publicly owned property located close to transit has been underutilized for a very long time. That's really wasteful.

The issue is nobody wants a bus depot near them. It has nothing to do with Taylor spending money on developers, which is just false. The money is for space to park buses.

The money is ONLY being spent to appease developers. MCPS already has a bus depot for school buses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Tuesday the County Council will approve Taylor’s plan to spend $70M on moving a bus depot so developers can build condos. That $70M could have paid for school mold remediation or school bathroom repairs.

https://parentscoalitionmd.substack.com/p/taylor-spending-70m-on-a-plan-that

Don’t waste your time clicking on a parents coalition link that only references stuff from 2009 and 2015! Nothing substantial or useful info is included in her “article” but she definitely wants to drive traffic to her substack.

That’s how long the Leggett plan to give the MCPS bus depot to developers has been going on. History matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's be clear here.

We can legitimately argue about the appropriate location of a bus depot. But this isn't Taylor choosing to spend money on developers. It is not, at all.

This is MCPS having no choice to pay for a bus depot elsewhere because the county is no longer allowing it to remain at the current location.

Let's be clear here.

Taylor chose to spend $70M in THIS budget.

Taylor chose to hide the spending deep in the documents so that the Board of Education would vote on it without any public notice, opportunity to be heard or discussion of feasibility.

The search for a new bus depot has been gong on for over 15 years. There is no emergency that forced poor Taylor to hide this $70M outlay in the MCPS Capital Budget. He did that all by himself.

Taylor has also established a clear disdain for any public process, feasibility studies, transportation studies or data analysis in any of this plans.

DP

I agree with you that Taylor often acts with disdain for the community and this is certainly an example of that. However, the need for a new bus depot is real. The fact that the search has been going on for so long underscores the fact that a publicly owned property located close to transit has been underutilized for a very long time. That's really wasteful.

The issue is nobody wants a bus depot near them. It has nothing to do with Taylor spending money on developers, which is just false. The money is for space to park buses.

The money is ONLY being spent to appease developers. MCPS already has a bus depot for school buses.

No, the buses are essentially squatting on county-owned land that the county wants to use for another purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's be clear here.

We can legitimately argue about the appropriate location of a bus depot. But this isn't Taylor choosing to spend money on developers. It is not, at all.

This is MCPS having no choice to pay for a bus depot elsewhere because the county is no longer allowing it to remain at the current location.

Let's be clear here.

Taylor chose to spend $70M in THIS budget.

Taylor chose to hide the spending deep in the documents so that the Board of Education would vote on it without any public notice, opportunity to be heard or discussion of feasibility.

The search for a new bus depot has been gong on for over 15 years. There is no emergency that forced poor Taylor to hide this $70M outlay in the MCPS Capital Budget. He did that all by himself.

Taylor has also established a clear disdain for any public process, feasibility studies, transportation studies or data analysis in any of this plans.

DP

I agree with you that Taylor often acts with disdain for the community and this is certainly an example of that. However, the need for a new bus depot is real. The fact that the search has been going on for so long underscores the fact that a publicly owned property located close to transit has been underutilized for a very long time. That's really wasteful.

The issue is nobody wants a bus depot near them. It has nothing to do with Taylor spending money on developers, which is just false. The money is for space to park buses.

The money is ONLY being spent to appease developers. MCPS already has a bus depot for school buses.

No, the buses are essentially squatting on county-owned land that the county wants to use for another purpose.

LOL the county gave MCPS permits to build massive charging stations on the property.