Paradise Season 2 on Hulu

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Anonymous wrote:Along with lots of candles apparently the Graceland gift shop also had years worth of canned beans? I did really love Woolley’s portrayal of Annie. Some one asked how she knew she was going to die. Having preeclampsia with no medical treatment is rough and she knew she had that — that’s probably why she decided to try to go to Colorado even very pregnant (which is itself a crazy idea). She knew her baby would die alone. And once the blood starts gushing with the placenta, you are done for without a transfusion.

Also, as soon as they had sex, I was like, girl this is the worst idea, you’re totally going to get pregnant in a post apocalyptic nightmare and will have to deliver with no medical assistance or medicine and you and your baby will probably both die. If there was ever a time for “everything but” sex, that was it.

One thing I didn’t get about linc — what were those red marks on his body? Nuclear burns? So he’s going to die of radiation exposure?

Someone asked why they are staying in the dome. I think most people don’t know it’s relatively safe to come out. But Sinatra knows something about the heat wave that is to come in a couple of years — the scientist talled about this, although it didn’t make a lot of sense to me. So I think she knows they have to stay in the dome until they find a solution for that. I think that involves whatever technology she took from Linc and his partner, but the tech is apparently super dangerous and wasn’t ready for use yet — that’s why Linc is trying to get to Colorado to prevent her from using it.

+1 to why they aren’t leaving. There climate is going to reverse from cold to very hot and that is predicted to kill most of the surviving population.

None of them know about the coming heat wave, Sinatra didn't tell anyone. That's why she's building the time machine.

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I like the time travel twist, though it was unexpected. Did you notice when Billy sat down at the bar to talk to the scientist he killed - the scientist made a comment about, "Not a lot of bars in your town?" and Billy had a reaction. Yet Billy hadn't yet heard that same line from Xavier, which was to come when they entered the underground bunker together. They're all time traveling and have done much of this before. The nosebleeds are part of this.

As for the outside world, the climate guy said that it's deceptively okay after a few years. The Venus syndrome (that's what he called it) would mean increasing heat and pressure until you'll wish you'd died in the initial blast.

I'm not a fan of the Graceland storyline, but it's over, so I can move on.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the time travel twist, though it was unexpected. Did you notice when Billy sat down at the bar to talk to the scientist he killed - the scientist made a comment about, "Not a lot of bars in your town?" and Billy had a reaction. Yet Billy hadn't yet heard that same line from Xavier, which was to come when they entered the underground bunker together. They're all time traveling and have done much of this before. The nosebleeds are part of this.

As for the outside world, the climate guy said that it's deceptively okay after a few years. The Venus syndrome (that's what he called it) would mean increasing heat and pressure until you'll wish you'd died in the initial blast.

I'm not a fan of the Graceland storyline, but it's over, so I can move on.

I liked Billy and Annie as characters but I'm glad that the show is willing to kill them off. Pretty much no one except X himself has 100% plot armor.

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Threads has a lively chatter on this.

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Anonymous wrote:Gary makes my skin crawl. Can you imagine being in a bunker with him and that whisper lisp?

I actually loved his character. Now I guess we're supposed to surmise that Bean went back and told everyone that Gary had killed the other guy (can't remember his name), and everyone abandons Gary. Which makes me sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Along with lots of candles apparently the Graceland gift shop also had years worth of canned beans? I did really love Woolley’s portrayal of Annie. Some one asked how she knew she was going to die. Having preeclampsia with no medical treatment is rough and she knew she had that — that’s probably why she decided to try to go to Colorado even very pregnant (which is itself a crazy idea). She knew her baby would die alone. And once the blood starts gushing with the placenta, you are done for without a transfusion.

Also, as soon as they had sex, I was like, girl this is the worst idea, you’re totally going to get pregnant in a post apocalyptic nightmare and will have to deliver with no medical assistance or medicine and you and your baby will probably both die. If there was ever a time for “everything but” sex, that was it.

One thing I didn’t get about linc — what were those red marks on his body? Nuclear burns? So he’s going to die of radiation exposure?

Someone asked why they are staying in the dome. I think most people don’t know it’s relatively safe to come out. But Sinatra knows something about the heat wave that is to come in a couple of years — the scientist talled about this, although it didn’t make a lot of sense to me. So I think she knows they have to stay in the dome until they find a solution for that. I think that involves whatever technology she took from Linc and his partner, but the tech is apparently super dangerous and wasn’t ready for use yet — that’s why Linc is trying to get to Colorado to prevent her from using it.

+1 to why they aren’t leaving. There climate is going to reverse from cold to very hot and that is predicted to kill most of the surviving population.

None of them know about the coming heat wave, Sinatra didn't tell anyone. That's why she's building the time machine.

Wait, what?

[Anonymous]

My favorite parts of this show take place outside of the bunker. I like dystopian adventures like The Walking Dead, The Road, etc. and that's what it's vaguely reminiscent of. Much more exciting than the sterile world of the bunker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gary makes my skin crawl. Can you imagine being in a bunker with him and that whisper lisp?

I actually loved his character. Now I guess we're supposed to surmise that Bean went back and told everyone that Gary had killed the other guy (can't remember his name), and everyone abandons Gary. Which makes me sad.

Gary murdered Enos to prevent him from telling Terri she could take the train to Colorado. Gary is a psycho. We don’t know if he’s imprisoned Terri, or if Bean was able to tell her and they’ve escaped. Bean didn’t tell everyone else, otherwise Gary wouldn’t have been welcome at the swap meet.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Along with lots of candles apparently the Graceland gift shop also had years worth of canned beans? I did really love Woolley’s portrayal of Annie. Some one asked how she knew she was going to die. Having preeclampsia with no medical treatment is rough and she knew she had that — that’s probably why she decided to try to go to Colorado even very pregnant (which is itself a crazy idea). She knew her baby would die alone. And once the blood starts gushing with the placenta, you are done for without a transfusion.

Also, as soon as they had sex, I was like, girl this is the worst idea, you’re totally going to get pregnant in a post apocalyptic nightmare and will have to deliver with no medical assistance or medicine and you and your baby will probably both die. If there was ever a time for “everything but” sex, that was it.

One thing I didn’t get about linc — what were those red marks on his body? Nuclear burns? So he’s going to die of radiation exposure?

Someone asked why they are staying in the dome. I think most people don’t know it’s relatively safe to come out. But Sinatra knows something about the heat wave that is to come in a couple of years — the scientist talled about this, although it didn’t make a lot of sense to me. So I think she knows they have to stay in the dome until they find a solution for that. I think that involves whatever technology she took from Linc and his partner, but the tech is apparently super dangerous and wasn’t ready for use yet — that’s why Linc is trying to get to Colorado to prevent her from using it.

+1 to why they aren’t leaving. There climate is going to reverse from cold to very hot and that is predicted to kill most of the surviving population.

None of them know about the coming heat wave, Sinatra didn't tell anyone. That's why she's building the time machine.

Wait, what?

I went over to threads based on PP and they said rewatch episode 3 of this season with time travel in mind and it does help!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gary makes my skin crawl. Can you imagine being in a bunker with him and that whisper lisp?

I actually loved his character. Now I guess we're supposed to surmise that Bean went back and told everyone that Gary had killed the other guy (can't remember his name), and everyone abandons Gary. Which makes me sad.

Gary murdered Enos to prevent him from telling Terri she could take the train to Colorado. Gary is a psycho. We don’t know if he’s imprisoned Terri, or if Bean was able to tell her and they’ve escaped. Bean didn’t tell everyone else, otherwise Gary wouldn’t have been welcome at the swap meet.

I'm not sure how we were supposed to interpret the flashbacks for Gary. On one hand he was lying the whole time, so he's unreliable, on the other hand the last flashback showed Bean witnessing the murder, so are all of the flashbacks supposed to be taken as truth?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gary makes my skin crawl. Can you imagine being in a bunker with him and that whisper lisp?

I actually loved his character. Now I guess we're supposed to surmise that Bean went back and told everyone that Gary had killed the other guy (can't remember his name), and everyone abandons Gary. Which makes me sad.

Gary murdered Enos to prevent him from telling Terri she could take the train to Colorado. Gary is a psycho. We don’t know if he’s imprisoned Terri, or if Bean was able to tell her and they’ve escaped. Bean didn’t tell everyone else, otherwise Gary wouldn’t have been welcome at the swap meet.

I'm not sure how we were supposed to interpret the flashbacks for Gary. On one hand he was lying the whole time, so he's unreliable, on the other hand the last flashback showed Bean witnessing the murder, so are all of the flashbacks supposed to be taken as truth?

The words that come out of his mouth may be lies (I dont know about guns I don’t like them!) but the visuals seem accurate (shoots Enos rapidly and skillfully). Again, the other characters would not be treating Gary well if they suspected he harmed Terri or Bean.

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I think Gary is your typical "basement dweller incel video game player" stereotype, masquerading as a nice guy.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Gary is your typical "basement dweller incel video game player" stereotype, masquerading as a nice guy.

He went out of his way to save the kid, pretty nice of him.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Gary is your typical "basement dweller incel video game player" stereotype, masquerading as a nice guy.

He went out of his way to save the kid, pretty nice of him.

That was definitely the hook for us really seeing him as a good guy. And maybe he was good to Bean (probably not after the shooting though), we’ve all seen the wonderful fathers that were in the SS and murdering people in camps. But now we know he shot Enos and is lying to Xavier. He’s not a good guy. He may be a bad guy who does some good things, but he’s definitely a villain.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Gary is your typical "basement dweller incel video game player" stereotype, masquerading as a nice guy.

He went out of his way to save the kid, pretty nice of him.

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I think when we are first introduced to Gary, we're supposed to think he's that stereotype, but he very clearly isn't. He is uncomfortable when Enis starts speaking in a vulgar way about the nurse. He's clearly attuned to the fact that Bean is neglected, probably abused, and starving. He never does anything creepy and in fact, when it's time to run for shelter, he ASKS Bean if he'd like to come with him, never forces him to at all. He's also a real gentleman to everyone in the bunker. So he's clearly *not* the stereotype the PP suggests. He's just a lonely soul who has finally found a purpose.

In that respect, while yes - he did kill Enis - I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Enis was not the nicest of guys.