How did CBK bag JFK jr?

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Anonymous wrote:Kate and CBK weren’t really alike. Kate pursued William pretty steadfastly. CBK played it a lot cooler whether it was authentic or strategic.

Also think JFK jr. was older and more ready to commit than William was. Different dynamics… but I was a kid when JFK jr passed away, so this is just my impression based on what I’ve read after the fact.

Me again, thinking more about it, my analysis is that JFK jr was much more in love or besotted with Carolyn than William has ever been with Kate. With William you get the sense that he is bored or always feels he could have found a better match in some way. And I don’t sadly jfk jr and CBK passed away before their marriage was telling in any very long term kind of way.

But long story short I think jfk jr loved CBK more than she loved him and I think Kate loves/needs William more than he thinks he loves or needs her. William is more complicated because he has to stay married for image sake. And I’m sure he resents that and kind of projects it onto Kate. But what do I know - hopefully they’re happy.

I disagree.

I think William was attracted to Kate, her loving family, and the fact that she demonstrated she was in it for the long haul. I suspect he desperately wanted a wife who would provide a loving home for him and his children as well as someone strong enough to add value rather than require hand-holding. They seem to be a very good match. I really don’t understand all the dcum speculation about him not loving her. They seem really committed.

JFK Jr seemed to be really immature, self-centered, and needy. While he was obviously spoiled and easily bored by women who threw themselves at him, he seemed to be interested in the chase CBK laid out for him by simply following The Rules that were popular in the 90s. Plus, the timing worked in her favor: he was reeling from the death of his bossy pants mother and he probably latched onto CBK more quickly than he might have under different circumstances.

I think JFK Jr was attracted to her personality/behavior—perhaps the challenge and Chase she presented. While she wasn’t ugly, she really wasn’t gorgeous. He was way hotter than she was. Look at her nose and odd facial features. They were known to have passionate fights in public, and he probably got off on that.

Anyway, there’s no way the JFK Jr marriage would have lasted. She probably would have been the one to leave. He probably wanted a wife who would give him kids and enjoy being a mother, and she didn’t seem mature enough for that. She seemed self-centered just like him.

JFK jr and CBK might not have lasted had they lived, but he seemed passionate about her. William took ten years to marry Kate. They’ve also been plagued by a lot of rumors related to infidelity, living separately etc. he was photographed with other women in the Swiss alps while kate was pregnant with Louis.

You do wish, I see. Year 14 of divorce watch. Like all these chunks wondering what he sees in her. Jesus.

Other women detest the CBKs and Kate Middletons. Don’t be a loser, at least not as openly.

What? I like Kate. I just don’t think she and William seem particularly happy and there are a lot of rumors about their marriage. I also don’t think someone not liking CBK or Kate Middleton would make them a loser. What a weird post

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Anonymous wrote:He married up, and killed her and her brilliant sister because of his ego and deep, deep stupidity.

I can’t even imagine their poor mother getting the news of both her daughters gone so needlessly.

Her mom told CBK he wasn’t worth it and he wasn’t. The family is based off of a criminal fortune laundered by politics and time. Caroline - and I sympathize with some of her pain - is a cold-assed bbbbbtch by reputation in NYC. Her husband is a nasty, nasty sick and was cruel to CBK’s relatives. They are better than -no one- and had the temerity to think their shit didn’t stink.

The loss of Tatiana does not change this.

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Anonymous wrote:She played hard to get (or maybe was genuinely not interested at first, who knows) which was novel to him. And I wouldn’t say anyone killed by their husband’s foolishness “married well.”

Exactly. It is so misogynistic (and old fashioned) to think she “bagged” some prize.
He was obviously reckless, which cost her life and that of her sister.

Be careful what you wish for OP.

(Please don’t tell me that you think Melania Trump hit some jackpot???)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was very beautiful (obviously) but I think she bagged him by being a b1tch and not giving AF attitude. It’s been well documented over the years that she cheated on him, used a lot of drugs, and was generally a PITA.

Men like who him who grow up with everyone fawning over them cant get enough of confident women who give the vibe that the golden boy is the lucky one to have snagged her, not the other way around.

You are a self-hating slop pile. America’s Dumb Dead Son fkd around on her and on every girlfriend he ever had. He endangered multiple partners - Christina Haag discussed almost drowning at sea when JFKJ refused help - before killing two women who had careers they didn’t need family to get for them. Who got into college without a name and his terrible grades and tragic learning disabilities.

Never be a mother-in-law. You’re not a good enough person for the role.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kate and CBK weren’t really alike. Kate pursued William pretty steadfastly. CBK played it a lot cooler whether it was authentic or strategic.

Also think JFK jr. was older and more ready to commit than William was. Different dynamics… but I was a kid when JFK jr passed away, so this is just my impression based on what I’ve read after the fact.

Me again, thinking more about it, my analysis is that JFK jr was much more in love or besotted with Carolyn than William has ever been with Kate. With William you get the sense that he is bored or always feels he could have found a better match in some way. And I don’t sadly jfk jr and CBK passed away before their marriage was telling in any very long term kind of way.

But long story short I think jfk jr loved CBK more than she loved him and I think Kate loves/needs William more than he thinks he loves or needs her. William is more complicated because he has to stay married for image sake. And I’m sure he resents that and kind of projects it onto Kate. But what do I know - hopefully they’re happy.

I disagree.

I think William was attracted to Kate, her loving family, and the fact that she demonstrated she was in it for the long haul. I suspect he desperately wanted a wife who would provide a loving home for him and his children as well as someone strong enough to add value rather than require hand-holding. They seem to be a very good match. I really don’t understand all the dcum speculation about him not loving her. They seem really committed.

JFK Jr seemed to be really immature, self-centered, and needy. While he was obviously spoiled and easily bored by women who threw themselves at him, he seemed to be interested in the chase CBK laid out for him by simply following The Rules that were popular in the 90s. Plus, the timing worked in her favor: he was reeling from the death of his bossy pants mother and he probably latched onto CBK more quickly than he might have under different circumstances.

I think JFK Jr was attracted to her personality/behavior—perhaps the challenge and Chase she presented. While she wasn’t ugly, she really wasn’t gorgeous. He was way hotter than she was. Look at her nose and odd facial features. They were known to have passionate fights in public, and he probably got off on that.

Anyway, there’s no way the JFK Jr marriage would have lasted. She probably would have been the one to leave. He probably wanted a wife who would give him kids and enjoy being a mother, and she didn’t seem mature enough for that. She seemed self-centered just like him.

JFK jr and CBK might not have lasted had they lived, but he seemed passionate about her. William took ten years to marry Kate. They’ve also been plagued by a lot of rumors related to infidelity, living separately etc. he was photographed with other women in the Swiss alps while kate was pregnant with Louis.

I think it’s reasonable that he didn’t rush into marriage given the catastrophe of a marriage his parents had.

And unless the photos of him with other women were objectively romantic, I think it’s reasonable that he might have been off skiing with a group of friends while she relaxed at home.

While some boys of cheating fathers follow in their footsteps, some go in the other direction given their firsthand experience of coming from a broken home. I bet William and Harry are both extra-committed to making it work with their wives…if only for the sake of their kids.

William’s dad won’t live forever. His in-laws are essentially the surrogate family and loving grandparents for his kids. I doubt he wants to blow that up.

William is absolutely not going to blow it up and neither is kate. They are both committed to staying in the marriage but who knows what that means for them. They are not like us.

I don’t know about you, but I would not be pleased at all to see pictures of my husband drunkenly grinding with other women on a ski trip while I was home pregnant.

I don’t particularly like Meghan (I actually like Kate a lot better) but I 100% believe Harry is a more traditional, loyal and family oriented spouse than William. Meghan has the power in their marriage (because Harry needs someone to play that role) and William has the power in his.

Idk - maybe William deeply loves Kate. I used to think so. I just am not as convinced anymore. They’re also just regular people at the end of the day and most marriages are pretty boring 15 years in. Add to that the opportunities William has to step out, and the financial means to do anything he wants or have as many residences as they want.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate and CBK weren’t really alike. Kate pursued William pretty steadfastly. CBK played it a lot cooler whether it was authentic or strategic.

Also think JFK jr. was older and more ready to commit than William was. Different dynamics… but I was a kid when JFK jr passed away, so this is just my impression based on what I’ve read after the fact.

Me again, thinking more about it, my analysis is that JFK jr was much more in love or besotted with Carolyn than William has ever been with Kate. With William you get the sense that he is bored or always feels he could have found a better match in some way. And I don’t sadly jfk jr and CBK passed away before their marriage was telling in any very long term kind of way.

But long story short I think jfk jr loved CBK more than she loved him and I think Kate loves/needs William more than he thinks he loves or needs her. William is more complicated because he has to stay married for image sake. And I’m sure he resents that and kind of projects it onto Kate. But what do I know - hopefully they’re happy.

I disagree.

I think William was attracted to Kate, her loving family, and the fact that she demonstrated she was in it for the long haul. I suspect he desperately wanted a wife who would provide a loving home for him and his children as well as someone strong enough to add value rather than require hand-holding. They seem to be a very good match. I really don’t understand all the dcum speculation about him not loving her. They seem really committed.

JFK Jr seemed to be really immature, self-centered, and needy. While he was obviously spoiled and easily bored by women who threw themselves at him, he seemed to be interested in the chase CBK laid out for him by simply following The Rules that were popular in the 90s. Plus, the timing worked in her favor: he was reeling from the death of his bossy pants mother and he probably latched onto CBK more quickly than he might have under different circumstances.

I think JFK Jr was attracted to her personality/behavior—perhaps the challenge and Chase she presented. While she wasn’t ugly, she really wasn’t gorgeous. He was way hotter than she was. Look at her nose and odd facial features. They were known to have passionate fights in public, and he probably got off on that.

Anyway, there’s no way the JFK Jr marriage would have lasted. She probably would have been the one to leave. He probably wanted a wife who would give him kids and enjoy being a mother, and she didn’t seem mature enough for that. She seemed self-centered just like him.

JFK jr and CBK might not have lasted had they lived, but he seemed passionate about her. William took ten years to marry Kate. They’ve also been plagued by a lot of rumors related to infidelity, living separately etc. he was photographed with other women in the Swiss alps while kate was pregnant with Louis.

I think it’s reasonable that he didn’t rush into marriage given the catastrophe of a marriage his parents had.

And unless the photos of him with other women were objectively romantic, I think it’s reasonable that he might have been off skiing with a group of friends while she relaxed at home.

While some boys of cheating fathers follow in their footsteps, some go in the other direction given their firsthand experience of coming from a broken home. I bet William and Harry are both extra-committed to making it work with their wives…if only for the sake of their kids.

William’s dad won’t live forever. His in-laws are essentially the surrogate family and loving grandparents for his kids. I doubt he wants to blow that up.

William is absolutely not going to blow it up and neither is kate. They are both committed to staying in the marriage but who knows what that means for them. They are not like us.

I don’t know about you, but I would not be pleased at all to see pictures of my husband drunkenly grinding with other women on a ski trip while I was home pregnant.

I don’t particularly like Meghan (I actually like Kate a lot better) but I 100% believe Harry is a more traditional, loyal and family oriented spouse than William. Meghan has the power in their marriage (because Harry needs someone to play that role) and William has the power in his.

Idk - maybe William deeply loves Kate. I used to think so. I just am not as convinced anymore. They’re also just regular people at the end of the day and most marriages are pretty boring 15 years in. Add to that the opportunities William has to step out, and the financial means to do anything he wants or have as many residences as they want.

That last paragraph - you sound like such a dumpy dork. Is it really normal to you to think you know other people’s intimate feelings?

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Anonymous wrote:She played hard to get (or maybe was genuinely not interested at first, who knows) which was novel to him. And I wouldn’t say anyone killed by their husband’s foolishness “married well.”

Exactly. It is so misogynistic (and old fashioned) to think she “bagged” some prize.
He was obviously reckless, which cost her life and that of her sister.

Be careful what you wish for OP.

(Please don’t tell me that you think Melania Trump hit some jackpot???)

Yikes - jfk jr and Trump were not alike. One was reckless, the other represents the worst of humanity.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate and CBK weren’t really alike. Kate pursued William pretty steadfastly. CBK played it a lot cooler whether it was authentic or strategic.

Also think JFK jr. was older and more ready to commit than William was. Different dynamics… but I was a kid when JFK jr passed away, so this is just my impression based on what I’ve read after the fact.

Me again, thinking more about it, my analysis is that JFK jr was much more in love or besotted with Carolyn than William has ever been with Kate. With William you get the sense that he is bored or always feels he could have found a better match in some way. And I don’t sadly jfk jr and CBK passed away before their marriage was telling in any very long term kind of way.

But long story short I think jfk jr loved CBK more than she loved him and I think Kate loves/needs William more than he thinks he loves or needs her. William is more complicated because he has to stay married for image sake. And I’m sure he resents that and kind of projects it onto Kate. But what do I know - hopefully they’re happy.

I disagree.

I think William was attracted to Kate, her loving family, and the fact that she demonstrated she was in it for the long haul. I suspect he desperately wanted a wife who would provide a loving home for him and his children as well as someone strong enough to add value rather than require hand-holding. They seem to be a very good match. I really don’t understand all the dcum speculation about him not loving her. They seem really committed.

JFK Jr seemed to be really immature, self-centered, and needy. While he was obviously spoiled and easily bored by women who threw themselves at him, he seemed to be interested in the chase CBK laid out for him by simply following The Rules that were popular in the 90s. Plus, the timing worked in her favor: he was reeling from the death of his bossy pants mother and he probably latched onto CBK more quickly than he might have under different circumstances.

I think JFK Jr was attracted to her personality/behavior—perhaps the challenge and Chase she presented. While she wasn’t ugly, she really wasn’t gorgeous. He was way hotter than she was. Look at her nose and odd facial features. They were known to have passionate fights in public, and he probably got off on that.

Anyway, there’s no way the JFK Jr marriage would have lasted. She probably would have been the one to leave. He probably wanted a wife who would give him kids and enjoy being a mother, and she didn’t seem mature enough for that. She seemed self-centered just like him.

JFK jr and CBK might not have lasted had they lived, but he seemed passionate about her. William took ten years to marry Kate. They’ve also been plagued by a lot of rumors related to infidelity, living separately etc. he was photographed with other women in the Swiss alps while kate was pregnant with Louis.

I think it’s reasonable that he didn’t rush into marriage given the catastrophe of a marriage his parents had.

And unless the photos of him with other women were objectively romantic, I think it’s reasonable that he might have been off skiing with a group of friends while she relaxed at home.

While some boys of cheating fathers follow in their footsteps, some go in the other direction given their firsthand experience of coming from a broken home. I bet William and Harry are both extra-committed to making it work with their wives…if only for the sake of their kids.

William’s dad won’t live forever. His in-laws are essentially the surrogate family and loving grandparents for his kids. I doubt he wants to blow that up.

William is absolutely not going to blow it up and neither is kate. They are both committed to staying in the marriage but who knows what that means for them. They are not like us.

I don’t know about you, but I would not be pleased at all to see pictures of my husband drunkenly grinding with other women on a ski trip while I was home pregnant.

I don’t particularly like Meghan (I actually like Kate a lot better) but I 100% believe Harry is a more traditional, loyal and family oriented spouse than William. Meghan has the power in their marriage (because Harry needs someone to play that role) and William has the power in his.

Idk - maybe William deeply loves Kate. I used to think so. I just am not as convinced anymore. They’re also just regular people at the end of the day and most marriages are pretty boring 15 years in. Add to that the opportunities William has to step out, and the financial means to do anything he wants or have as many residences as they want.

That last paragraph - you sound like such a dumpy dork. Is it really normal to you to think you know other people’s intimate feelings?

Lol at least I’m not the one calling people “dumpy dorks” on the internet. This is an entertainment forum. Yes, we speculate on public figures and their personal lives. If you don’t like it, you can get off the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kate and CBK weren’t really alike. Kate pursued William pretty steadfastly. CBK played it a lot cooler whether it was authentic or strategic.

Also think JFK jr. was older and more ready to commit than William was. Different dynamics… but I was a kid when JFK jr passed away, so this is just my impression based on what I’ve read after the fact.

Me again, thinking more about it, my analysis is that JFK jr was much more in love or besotted with Carolyn than William has ever been with Kate. With William you get the sense that he is bored or always feels he could have found a better match in some way. And I don’t sadly jfk jr and CBK passed away before their marriage was telling in any very long term kind of way.

But long story short I think jfk jr loved CBK more than she loved him and I think Kate loves/needs William more than he thinks he loves or needs her. William is more complicated because he has to stay married for image sake. And I’m sure he resents that and kind of projects it onto Kate. But what do I know - hopefully they’re happy.

I disagree.

I think William was attracted to Kate, her loving family, and the fact that she demonstrated she was in it for the long haul. I suspect he desperately wanted a wife who would provide a loving home for him and his children as well as someone strong enough to add value rather than require hand-holding. They seem to be a very good match. I really don’t understand all the dcum speculation about him not loving her. They seem really committed.

JFK Jr seemed to be really immature, self-centered, and needy. While he was obviously spoiled and easily bored by women who threw themselves at him, he seemed to be interested in the chase CBK laid out for him by simply following The Rules that were popular in the 90s. Plus, the timing worked in her favor: he was reeling from the death of his bossy pants mother and he probably latched onto CBK more quickly than he might have under different circumstances.

I think JFK Jr was attracted to her personality/behavior—perhaps the challenge and Chase she presented. While she wasn’t ugly, she really wasn’t gorgeous. He was way hotter than she was. Look at her nose and odd facial features. They were known to have passionate fights in public, and he probably got off on that.

Anyway, there’s no way the JFK Jr marriage would have lasted. She probably would have been the one to leave. He probably wanted a wife who would give him kids and enjoy being a mother, and she didn’t seem mature enough for that. She seemed self-centered just like him.

JFK jr and CBK might not have lasted had they lived, but he seemed passionate about her. William took ten years to marry Kate. They’ve also been plagued by a lot of rumors related to infidelity, living separately etc. he was photographed with other women in the Swiss alps while kate was pregnant with Louis.

I think it’s reasonable that he didn’t rush into marriage given the catastrophe of a marriage his parents had.

And unless the photos of him with other women were objectively romantic, I think it’s reasonable that he might have been off skiing with a group of friends while she relaxed at home.

While some boys of cheating fathers follow in their footsteps, some go in the other direction given their firsthand experience of coming from a broken home. I bet William and Harry are both extra-committed to making it work with their wives…if only for the sake of their kids.

William’s dad won’t live forever. His in-laws are essentially the surrogate family and loving grandparents for his kids. I doubt he wants to blow that up.

William is absolutely not going to blow it up and neither is kate. They are both committed to staying in the marriage but who knows what that means for them. They are not like us.

I don’t know about you, but I would not be pleased at all to see pictures of my husband drunkenly grinding with other women on a ski trip while I was home pregnant.

I don’t particularly like Meghan (I actually like Kate a lot better) but I 100% believe Harry is a more traditional, loyal and family oriented spouse than William. Meghan has the power in their marriage (because Harry needs someone to play that role) and William has the power in his.

Idk - maybe William deeply loves Kate. I used to think so. I just am not as convinced anymore. They’re also just regular people at the end of the day and most marriages are pretty boring 15 years in. Add to that the opportunities William has to step out, and the financial means to do anything he wants or have as many residences as they want.

That last paragraph - you sound like such a dumpy dork. Is it really normal to you to think you know other people’s intimate feelings?

Lol at least I’m not the one calling people “dumpy dorks” on the internet. This is an entertainment forum. Yes, we speculate on public figures and their personal lives. If you don’t like it, you can get off the internet.

So stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kate and CBK weren’t really alike. Kate pursued William pretty steadfastly. CBK played it a lot cooler whether it was authentic or strategic.

Also think JFK jr. was older and more ready to commit than William was. Different dynamics… but I was a kid when JFK jr passed away, so this is just my impression based on what I’ve read after the fact.

Me again, thinking more about it, my analysis is that JFK jr was much more in love or besotted with Carolyn than William has ever been with Kate. With William you get the sense that he is bored or always feels he could have found a better match in some way. And I don’t sadly jfk jr and CBK passed away before their marriage was telling in any very long term kind of way.

But long story short I think jfk jr loved CBK more than she loved him and I think Kate loves/needs William more than he thinks he loves or needs her. William is more complicated because he has to stay married for image sake. And I’m sure he resents that and kind of projects it onto Kate. But what do I know - hopefully they’re happy.

I disagree.

I think William was attracted to Kate, her loving family, and the fact that she demonstrated she was in it for the long haul. I suspect he desperately wanted a wife who would provide a loving home for him and his children as well as someone strong enough to add value rather than require hand-holding. They seem to be a very good match. I really don’t understand all the dcum speculation about him not loving her. They seem really committed.

JFK Jr seemed to be really immature, self-centered, and needy. While he was obviously spoiled and easily bored by women who threw themselves at him, he seemed to be interested in the chase CBK laid out for him by simply following The Rules that were popular in the 90s. Plus, the timing worked in her favor: he was reeling from the death of his bossy pants mother and he probably latched onto CBK more quickly than he might have under different circumstances.

I think JFK Jr was attracted to her personality/behavior—perhaps the challenge and Chase she presented. While she wasn’t ugly, she really wasn’t gorgeous. He was way hotter than she was. Look at her nose and odd facial features. They were known to have passionate fights in public, and he probably got off on that.

Anyway, there’s no way the JFK Jr marriage would have lasted. She probably would have been the one to leave. He probably wanted a wife who would give him kids and enjoy being a mother, and she didn’t seem mature enough for that. She seemed self-centered just like him.

William broke up with Kate for awhile before they were married

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was America’s Kate Middleton. We don’t know much about her. A normal middle class girl marries a slain legendary American president’s son?

She’s nothing like Kate Middleton lol. Kate Middleton has never had a full-time job. CBK had an actual career. Their personalities and family of origin don’t seem the same at all either.

[Anonymous]

CBK was quite a catch, she certainly could have married better than a Kennedy if she wanted. I guess what she wanted was a dumb party boy with gobs of family money. Very tragic.

Kate and Will look to be in a miserable marriage and all they have in common are being leeches on society. Hashtag couple goals. :eyeroll:

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kate and CBK weren’t really alike. Kate pursued William pretty steadfastly. CBK played it a lot cooler whether it was authentic or strategic.

Also think JFK jr. was older and more ready to commit than William was. Different dynamics… but I was a kid when JFK jr passed away, so this is just my impression based on what I’ve read after the fact.

Me again, thinking more about it, my analysis is that JFK jr was much more in love or besotted with Carolyn than William has ever been with Kate. With William you get the sense that he is bored or always feels he could have found a better match in some way. And I don’t sadly jfk jr and CBK passed away before their marriage was telling in any very long term kind of way.

But long story short I think jfk jr loved CBK more than she loved him and I think Kate loves/needs William more than he thinks he loves or needs her. William is more complicated because he has to stay married for image sake. And I’m sure he resents that and kind of projects it onto Kate. But what do I know - hopefully they’re happy.

I disagree.

I think William was attracted to Kate, her loving family, and the fact that she demonstrated she was in it for the long haul. I suspect he desperately wanted a wife who would provide a loving home for him and his children as well as someone strong enough to add value rather than require hand-holding. They seem to be a very good match. I really don’t understand all the dcum speculation about him not loving her. They seem really committed.

JFK Jr seemed to be really immature, self-centered, and needy. While he was obviously spoiled and easily bored by women who threw themselves at him, he seemed to be interested in the chase CBK laid out for him by simply following The Rules that were popular in the 90s. Plus, the timing worked in her favor: he was reeling from the death of his bossy pants mother and he probably latched onto CBK more quickly than he might have under different circumstances.

I think JFK Jr was attracted to her personality/behavior—perhaps the challenge and Chase she presented. While she wasn’t ugly, she really wasn’t gorgeous. He was way hotter than she was. Look at her nose and odd facial features. They were known to have passionate fights in public, and he probably got off on that.

Anyway, there’s no way the JFK Jr marriage would have lasted. She probably would have been the one to leave. He probably wanted a wife who would give him kids and enjoy being a mother, and she didn’t seem mature enough for that. She seemed self-centered just like him.

JFK jr and CBK might not have lasted had they lived, but he seemed passionate about her. William took ten years to marry Kate. They’ve also been plagued by a lot of rumors related to infidelity, living separately etc. he was photographed with other women in the Swiss alps while kate was pregnant with Louis.

I think it’s reasonable that he didn’t rush into marriage given the catastrophe of a marriage his parents had.

And unless the photos of him with other women were objectively romantic, I think it’s reasonable that he might have been off skiing with a group of friends while she relaxed at home.

While some boys of cheating fathers follow in their footsteps, some go in the other direction given their firsthand experience of coming from a broken home. I bet William and Harry are both extra-committed to making it work with their wives…if only for the sake of their kids.

William’s dad won’t live forever. His in-laws are essentially the surrogate family and loving grandparents for his kids. I doubt he wants to blow that up.

William is absolutely not going to blow it up and neither is kate. They are both committed to staying in the marriage but who knows what that means for them. They are not like us.

I don’t know about you, but I would not be pleased at all to see pictures of my husband drunkenly grinding with other women on a ski trip while I was home pregnant.

I don’t particularly like Meghan (I actually like Kate a lot better) but I 100% believe Harry is a more traditional, loyal and family oriented spouse than William. Meghan has the power in their marriage (because Harry needs someone to play that role) and William has the power in his.

Idk - maybe William deeply loves Kate. I used to think so. I just am not as convinced anymore. They’re also just regular people at the end of the day and most marriages are pretty boring 15 years in. Add to that the opportunities William has to step out, and the financial means to do anything he wants or have as many residences as they want.

Based on what? He's estranged from him family and the vast majority of his lifelong friends, which he shared in his book. He didn't do anything to help Meghan adjust to a new country, much less royal life. He left the country on some trip days after Archie was born.

He doesn't seem particularly loyal, traditional, or family focused. He seems impulsive, entitled, and immature. I feel sorry for Meghan. I think she thought she was marrying someone else.

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Anonymous wrote:She played hard to get (or maybe was genuinely not interested at first, who knows) which was novel to him. And I wouldn’t say anyone killed by their husband’s foolishness “married well.”

This. He failed at his primary job as a husband.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate and CBK weren’t really alike. Kate pursued William pretty steadfastly. CBK played it a lot cooler whether it was authentic or strategic.

Also think JFK jr. was older and more ready to commit than William was. Different dynamics… but I was a kid when JFK jr passed away, so this is just my impression based on what I’ve read after the fact.

Me again, thinking more about it, my analysis is that JFK jr was much more in love or besotted with Carolyn than William has ever been with Kate. With William you get the sense that he is bored or always feels he could have found a better match in some way. And I don’t sadly jfk jr and CBK passed away before their marriage was telling in any very long term kind of way.

But long story short I think jfk jr loved CBK more than she loved him and I think Kate loves/needs William more than he thinks he loves or needs her. William is more complicated because he has to stay married for image sake. And I’m sure he resents that and kind of projects it onto Kate. But what do I know - hopefully they’re happy.

I disagree.

I think William was attracted to Kate, her loving family, and the fact that she demonstrated she was in it for the long haul. I suspect he desperately wanted a wife who would provide a loving home for him and his children as well as someone strong enough to add value rather than require hand-holding. They seem to be a very good match. I really don’t understand all the dcum speculation about him not loving her. They seem really committed.

JFK Jr seemed to be really immature, self-centered, and needy. While he was obviously spoiled and easily bored by women who threw themselves at him, he seemed to be interested in the chase CBK laid out for him by simply following The Rules that were popular in the 90s. Plus, the timing worked in her favor: he was reeling from the death of his bossy pants mother and he probably latched onto CBK more quickly than he might have under different circumstances.

I think JFK Jr was attracted to her personality/behavior—perhaps the challenge and Chase she presented. While she wasn’t ugly, she really wasn’t gorgeous. He was way hotter than she was. Look at her nose and odd facial features. They were known to have passionate fights in public, and he probably got off on that.

Anyway, there’s no way the JFK Jr marriage would have lasted. She probably would have been the one to leave. He probably wanted a wife who would give him kids and enjoy being a mother, and she didn’t seem mature enough for that. She seemed self-centered just like him.

DP. This honestly is a very American lens to put over William/Kate dynamic. The people in the royal family truly believe that they are better than people that are not a part of the aristocracy. That’s why you end up with someone like Prince Andrew, who can get arrested in claim, but I’m the son of the queen or you have someone like Charles who would think nothing of basically marrying a 19-year-old that he did not love to be his broodmare. The joke about Williams’s parents was that Diana’s blood was even bluer than his father’s. William spent his whole youth dating and attempting to walk down someone from the social class that he was raised in and ultimately had no takers. So he married someone outside of his class at 30. He might have done that from a place of love even though they broke up multiple times for him to pursue other women but he almost certainly views her as needing to be grateful for tha choice. So from our perspective as Americans, we see a family that was financially comfortable and seemingly stable and a woman that is much better looking than her partner tend to view everything through that. But I guess it really comes down to if you think that someone can be raised to be a good spouse in the sort of system where their father and grandfather and great grandfather before them have cheated, and where their position in life and importance in the family is based on birth order. If you look at all of the divorces amongst the queen’s children, it does not seem that it’s possible, but who knows.

Agee that jfk and cbk would not have lasted. I think CBK would really have struggled with the power imbalance that would have resulted from her being pregnant/a mom.