Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

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Anonymous wrote:Shut down the Christian journals as well

And organizations.

+1

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand how fraternities and sororities, or gendered sports teams (like football) can continue, if a women’s magazine is forbidden.

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Anonymous wrote:Even putting aside whether the Administration's anti-DEI policies are permissible with respect to university admissions, hiring, employment practices, etc. how is prohibiting certain speech not pure viewpoint discrimination?

It’s not about prohibiting free speech - it’s about finding inequality. The papers can continue. It’s the federal funding to the school, which, in turn, funds these papers that is the problem.

Yeah, but while the federal gov’t does not have to provide funding in the first place, if it does so, it can’t provide such funds on a viewpoint discriminatory basis. I.e. we will fund schools/ publications but not if they are pro-free trade or anti-abortion or whatever.

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I’d want to know a LOT more about this decision than I trust Politico to report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shut down the Christian journals as well

And organizations.

+1

And the Hillels, I’m sure?

[Anonymous]

I’m not surprised, the ERGs at my federal contractor employer were disbanded. I think academia has their head in the sand in terms of what the Trump administration considers DEI. I assume similar things will be cancelled at other universities.

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Seems like it could easily be spun off to operate independently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both publications were founded upon and furthered DEI.

DEI perpetuates racial divisions rather than fostering unity.

Further, the mandatory DEI training required at most universities has been shown to increase prejudice among participants, rather than ameliorating the problem.

The idea that diversity, equity and inclusion perpetuates racial divisions is itself stunningly obnoxious and racist.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a related note, a teaching assistant for a U of Oklahoma psychology class was placed on leave after failing a student who wrote a Bible-based essay on gender.

https://apnews.com/article/university-oklahoma-gender-bible-essay-demonic-0fd51985c123737cd372ba609b730541

There is a reason Alabama and Oklahoma are looked down upon.

I read that paper. It was something like what a fifth grader would write. There is a theory she did it deliberately to play poor put-upon Christian victim.

She didn’t even cite the Bible. She just said something about the Bible says there are only two genders (which it does not, but I digress.)

But the TA gave the student a 0 because they were throwing a fit. Guarantee the passing and even B range grades were no better, in citation or writing quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both publications were founded upon and furthered DEI.

DEI perpetuates racial divisions rather than fostering unity.

Further, the mandatory DEI training required at most universities has been shown to increase prejudice among participants, rather than ameliorating the problem.

The idea that diversity, equity and inclusion perpetuates racial divisions is itself stunningly obnoxious and racist.

PP is right that there is evidence DEI trainings result in increased prejudice in the trained populations. Whether or not you find us noticing “obnoxious and racist.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a related note, a teaching assistant for a U of Oklahoma psychology class was placed on leave after failing a student who wrote a Bible-based essay on gender.

https://apnews.com/article/university-oklahoma-gender-bible-essay-demonic-0fd51985c123737cd372ba609b730541

There is a reason Alabama and Oklahoma are looked down upon.

I read that paper. It was something like what a fifth grader would write. There is a theory she did it deliberately to play poor put-upon Christian victim.

She didn’t even cite the Bible. She just said something about the Bible says there are only two genders (which it does not, but I digress.)

That paper she wrote was so bad and honestly it makes Oklahoma look bad. How did she make it to Junior year writing like that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a related note, a teaching assistant for a U of Oklahoma psychology class was placed on leave after failing a student who wrote a Bible-based essay on gender.

https://apnews.com/article/university-oklahoma-gender-bible-essay-demonic-0fd51985c123737cd372ba609b730541

There is a reason Alabama and Oklahoma are looked down upon.

I read that paper. It was something like what a fifth grader would write. There is a theory she did it deliberately to play poor put-upon Christian victim.

She didn’t even cite the Bible. She just said something about the Bible says there are only two genders (which it does not, but I digress.)

But the TA gave the student a 0 because they were throwing a fit. Guarantee the passing and even B range grades were no better, in citation or writing quality.

I think the zero came because they didn’t talk about the article much. It wasn’t even about trans people. Apparently the assignment was to respond to a journal article about the connection between gender roles and mental health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how fraternities and sororities, or gendered sports teams (like football) can continue, if a women’s magazine is forbidden.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a related note, a teaching assistant for a U of Oklahoma psychology class was placed on leave after failing a student who wrote a Bible-based essay on gender.

https://apnews.com/article/university-oklahoma-gender-bible-essay-demonic-0fd51985c123737cd372ba609b730541

There is a reason Alabama and Oklahoma are looked down upon.

I read that paper. It was something like what a fifth grader would write. There is a theory she did it deliberately to play poor put-upon Christian victim.

She didn’t even cite the Bible. She just said something about the Bible says there are only two genders (which it does not, but I digress.)

That paper she wrote was so bad and honestly it makes Oklahoma look bad. How did she make it to Junior year writing like that?

Her mom is a conservative talk radio host. It's easy to write a bad paper, throw in some half baked Christianity, and claim discrimination when you get the grade you deserve. It's a con. How well she can write normally doesn't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both publications were founded upon and furthered DEI.

DEI perpetuates racial divisions rather than fostering unity.

Further, the mandatory DEI training required at most universities has been shown to increase prejudice among participants, rather than ameliorating the problem.

The idea that diversity, equity and inclusion perpetuates racial divisions is itself stunningly obnoxious and racist.

PP is right that there is evidence DEI trainings result in increased prejudice in the trained populations. Whether or not you find us noticing “obnoxious and racist.”

That’s like saying there were fewer mental health issues back when there was a huge stigma around it.

The training gives people awareness and language to call out prejudice.

DEI training is a good thing.