A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.

Who gives a sh!t. The top 20 teams should just play each other regardless of conference since nowadays they probably have 90% of the best athletes, especially at more important positions like QB and OL. Stop ducking opponents to pad stats. Otherwise records don't matter.

Agree. ND should join a conference and stop ducking opponents.

You missed the point. Any game not played against a T20 ranked team at the time should be considered an exhibition game and the results shouldn't count. All the supposed top teams schedule several games against a "North Southeast Central Downstate Teacher College" and win 90-0. Even the bad teams in-conference are exceptionally bad. Those games shouldn't count and the teams and the athletes shouldn't accumulate stats from them. NIL and free agency make these lopsided contests an embarrassment.

You don’t understand. The major conferences already play 8-9 conference games plus a championship game if they finish at the top. That leaves 3-4 non conference games that usually include at least one high quality opponent. Many of those conference games are rivalry games with traditions as long or even longer than USC and ND. ND has a history of dropping out of established rivalry games, such as Michigan, because they know if hurts their chances at national championships if they lose. Because they refuse to join a conference, they might lose out on the playoffs this year since the rest of their schedule is relatively weak. Look at who they have left to play the rest of this season; BC, Navy, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Stanford. Not exactly a murderers row. The rest of the schools in major conferences don’t have the luxury of a weak end to their seasons.

You might want to take a closer look at their schedules. Many of the schools in the major conferences only play a couple
of ranked teams a year. Indiana for example has no ranked teams on its schedule for the rest of the year.

Except for the pesky fact that they will probably have to play a a championship game against #1 Ohio State. Notre Dame doesn’t need to worry about that now do they?

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Anonymous wrote:Those two programs haven't been consistently at top for years. Notre Dame needs to join a conference or they will be on the outside looking in.

Um, who was i the National Championship last year? Oh right, ND.

Thanks to their independent status. In a real conference their record would probably take a hit.

They’re basically playing an ACC schedule.

5 ACC games are not equal to 9 Big Ten or 8 SEC games

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Notre Dame has a huge endowment at $20 billion for an undergraduate enrollment of less than 9k. UMichigan has roughly same amount but for an undergraduate enrollment of 36k. ND has top half Ivy endowment money. They would rather associate with the Duke and Stanford as opposed to Northwestern and a bunch of large state universities.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame has a huge endowment at $20 billion for an undergraduate enrollment of less than 9k. UMichigan has roughly same amount but for an undergraduate enrollment of 36k. ND has top half Ivy endowment money. They would rather associate with the Duke and Stanford as opposed to Northwestern and a bunch of large state universities.

Notre Dame was instrumental in Stanford and Cal’s admission to the ACC as well. Pushed hard for them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.

Who gives a sh!t. The top 20 teams should just play each other regardless of conference since nowadays they probably have 90% of the best athletes, especially at more important positions like QB and OL. Stop ducking opponents to pad stats. Otherwise records don't matter.

Agree. ND should join a conference and stop ducking opponents.

You missed the point. Any game not played against a T20 ranked team at the time should be considered an exhibition game and the results shouldn't count. All the supposed top teams schedule several games against a "North Southeast Central Downstate Teacher College" and win 90-0. Even the bad teams in-conference are exceptionally bad. Those games shouldn't count and the teams and the athletes shouldn't accumulate stats from them. NIL and free agency make these lopsided contests an embarrassment.

You don’t understand. The major conferences already play 8-9 conference games plus a championship game if they finish at the top. That leaves 3-4 non conference games that usually include at least one high quality opponent. Many of those conference games are rivalry games with traditions as long or even longer than USC and ND. ND has a history of dropping out of established rivalry games, such as Michigan, because they know if hurts their chances at national championships if they lose. Because they refuse to join a conference, they might lose out on the playoffs this year since the rest of their schedule is relatively weak. Look at who they have left to play the rest of this season; BC, Navy, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Stanford. Not exactly a murderers row. The rest of the schools in major conferences don’t have the luxury of a weak end to their seasons.

You might want to take a closer look at their schedules. Many of the schools in the major conferences only play a couple
of ranked teams a year. Indiana for example has no ranked teams on its schedule for the rest of the year.

Except for the pesky fact that they will probably have to play a a championship game against #1 Ohio State. Notre Dame doesn’t need to worry about that now do they?

Nope. They won’t.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.

Who gives a sh!t. The top 20 teams should just play each other regardless of conference since nowadays they probably have 90% of the best athletes, especially at more important positions like QB and OL. Stop ducking opponents to pad stats. Otherwise records don't matter.

Agree. ND should join a conference and stop ducking opponents.

You missed the point. Any game not played against a T20 ranked team at the time should be considered an exhibition game and the results shouldn't count. All the supposed top teams schedule several games against a "North Southeast Central Downstate Teacher College" and win 90-0. Even the bad teams in-conference are exceptionally bad. Those games shouldn't count and the teams and the athletes shouldn't accumulate stats from them. NIL and free agency make these lopsided contests an embarrassment.

You don’t understand. The major conferences already play 8-9 conference games plus a championship game if they finish at the top. That leaves 3-4 non conference games that usually include at least one high quality opponent. Many of those conference games are rivalry games with traditions as long or even longer than USC and ND. ND has a history of dropping out of established rivalry games, such as Michigan, because they know if hurts their chances at national championships if they lose. Because they refuse to join a conference, they might lose out on the playoffs this year since the rest of their schedule is relatively weak. Look at who they have left to play the rest of this season; BC, Navy, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Stanford. Not exactly a murderers row. The rest of the schools in major conferences don’t have the luxury of a weak end to their seasons.

You might want to take a closer look at their schedules. Many of the schools in the major conferences only play a couple
of ranked teams a year. Indiana for example has no ranked teams on its schedule for the rest of the year.

Except for the pesky fact that they will probably have to play a a championship game against #1 Ohio State. Notre Dame doesn’t need to worry about that now do they?

You really are ignorant aren't you. ND played Ohio State last year in the Natty (and lost). ND will be just fine without USC and staying independent. It draws more viewers than any of the SEC teams.

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Notre Dame has the best of everything. Great athletics AND academics. Beautiful campus. Happy students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:USC and ND have been making the trip for a 100 years. The travel is not the issue. But for some reason, colleges in California aren't keeping up with changes in football. USC, Cal, Stanford, and UCLA all seem to fading fast in the new era. And looking at their empty stadiums, they seem to have lost a lot of fans in recent years. Not sure how to fix it except through better coaching and recruiting.

It's simple. The schools have become really asian.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame has the best of everything. Great athletics AND academics. Beautiful campus. Happy students.

….but located in South Bend. So there’s that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.

Who gives a sh!t. The top 20 teams should just play each other regardless of conference since nowadays they probably have 90% of the best athletes, especially at more important positions like QB and OL. Stop ducking opponents to pad stats. Otherwise records don't matter.

Agree. ND should join a conference and stop ducking opponents.

You missed the point. Any game not played against a T20 ranked team at the time should be considered an exhibition game and the results shouldn't count. All the supposed top teams schedule several games against a "North Southeast Central Downstate Teacher College" and win 90-0. Even the bad teams in-conference are exceptionally bad. Those games shouldn't count and the teams and the athletes shouldn't accumulate stats from them. NIL and free agency make these lopsided contests an embarrassment.

You don’t understand. The major conferences already play 8-9 conference games plus a championship game if they finish at the top. That leaves 3-4 non conference games that usually include at least one high quality opponent. Many of those conference games are rivalry games with traditions as long or even longer than USC and ND. ND has a history of dropping out of established rivalry games, such as Michigan, because they know if hurts their chances at national championships if they lose. Because they refuse to join a conference, they might lose out on the playoffs this year since the rest of their schedule is relatively weak. Look at who they have left to play the rest of this season; BC, Navy, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Stanford. Not exactly a murderers row. The rest of the schools in major conferences don’t have the luxury of a weak end to their seasons.

You might want to take a closer look at their schedules. Many of the schools in the major conferences only play a couple
of ranked teams a year. Indiana for example has no ranked teams on its schedule for the rest of the year.

Except for the pesky fact that they will probably have to play a a championship game against #1 Ohio State. Notre Dame doesn’t need to worry about that now do they?

You really are ignorant aren't you. ND played Ohio State last year in the Natty (and lost). ND will be just fine without USC and staying independent. It draws more viewers than any of the SEC teams.

Glad they will be fine without USC. There’s always the traditional powerhouses of Navy and Stanford that they will keep on their schedule.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame has a huge endowment at $20 billion for an undergraduate enrollment of less than 9k. UMichigan has roughly same amount but for an undergraduate enrollment of 36k. ND has top half Ivy endowment money. They would rather associate with the Duke and Stanford as opposed to Northwestern and a bunch of large state universities.[

In other words, too chicken to join any conference with the better teams. Gotcha!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.

Notre Dame fans travel and lots of midwestern Catholics are Notre Dame football fans. It's like Duke basketball, you don't need to be an alum to be a fan. Shane Gillis is a big ND fan and didn't attend.

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Anonymous wrote:Those two programs haven't been consistently at top for years. Notre Dame needs to join a conference or they will be on the outside looking in.

Um, who was i the National Championship last year? Oh right, ND.

Thanks to their independent status. In a real conference their record would probably take a hit.

They’re basically playing an ACC schedule.

5 ACC games are not equal to 9 Big Ten or 8 SEC games

That’s true, but 5 ACC games plus USC, Michigan etc every year is a stronger schedule than most ACC teams experience, and while not the B10 or SEC it’s still a real conference. ND would probably do better in the ACC than as an independent.

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Anonymous wrote:Those two programs haven't been consistently at top for years. Notre Dame needs to join a conference or they will be on the outside looking in.

Um, who was i the National Championship last year? Oh right, ND.

Thanks to their independent status. In a real conference their record would probably take a hit.

They’re basically playing an ACC schedule.

5 ACC games are not equal to 9 Big Ten or 8 SEC games

That’s true, but 5 ACC games plus USC, Michigan etc every year is a stronger schedule than most ACC teams experience, and while not the B10 or SEC it’s still a real conference. ND would probably do better in the ACC than as an independent.

Notre Dame backed (chickened) out of its Michigan rivalry years ago. Now they’re going to back out with USC. Always citing scheduling as the reason. In other words they want to schedule more sure fire wins. Notice Navy and Stanford are still on the schedule?

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Anonymous wrote:Those two programs haven't been consistently at top for years. Notre Dame needs to join a conference or they will be on the outside looking in.

Um, who was i the National Championship last year? Oh right, ND.

Thanks to their independent status. In a real conference their record would probably take a hit.

They’re basically playing an ACC schedule.

5 ACC games are not equal to 9 Big Ten or 8 SEC games

That’s true, but 5 ACC games plus USC, Michigan etc every year is a stronger schedule than most ACC teams experience, and while not the B10 or SEC it’s still a real conference. ND would probably do better in the ACC than as an independent.

Except for the obvious fact that the $$$ Notre Dame wants are not to be had in the ACC. They certainly aren’t going to want to share their current large revenue with the small tv contract football bottom dwellers from the ACC.