People really underestimate how hard it is to get into state flagships like UW Madison, Ohio State, or UGA

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Nope. Michigan's out of state admissions is high single digits with over 80,000 OOS applications for 4,000 spots.

Michigan is absolutely massive with about 55,000 students.

That doesn’t change the fact that it gets close to 90,000 applicants from out of state for fewer than 4000 spots.

They accept a lot more than 4,000. That's how many they anticipate will accept offer and be the admitted class.

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This site is sometimes great for info but the pettiness and name calling is really out of control. I can’t believe adults act like this about COLLEGES.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Look up this year’s stats, idiot.

Still 1300-1470. 1470 being the median at UVA and W&M.

https://news.uga.edu/uga-admits-class-of-2029/amp/

Again I implore you to put down the crack.

There is a huge difference between UGA accepted average student stats and those that actually enroll, particularly for EA. True to some extent for oos students at all flagships as yield is always poor for oos.

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Anonymous wrote:This site is sometimes great for info but the pettiness and name calling is really out of control. I can’t believe adults act like this about COLLEGES.

+ 1. So happy my friends are not like this.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Look up this year’s stats, idiot.

Still 1300-1470. 1470 being the median at UVA and W&M.

https://news.uga.edu/uga-admits-class-of-2029/amp/

Again I implore you to put down the crack.

NP. I don’t have any dog in this fight, but you need to stop with the “put down the pipe/crack.” It wasn’t funny the first time; it is juvenile and does a disservice to your argument. Saying it a third time is pathetic. Not only that, who is referencing crack, grandma? There is a way to make your argument and not sound like a fifth grade boy from the eighties.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Look up this year’s stats, idiot.

Still 1300-1470. 1470 being the median at UVA and W&M.

https://news.uga.edu/uga-admits-class-of-2029/amp/

Again I implore you to put down the crack.

NP, no horse in this race. UGA enrolled students for fall 2023 middle 50 percentiles, 1230-1410, 50th 1320.
They haven't yet published their 24-25 CDS with fall 2024 freshmen stats. There is no reason to expect the stats to be very different.

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Anonymous wrote:The competitiveness of college admissions has trickled down to top 50-75 universities. UW Madison, Ohio State, and UGA have turned away students with straight As and a 1500+ SAT score. The average admitted student at UGA has taken at least 11 AP classes. You have to be a top student to get into many of the football schools you see on TV now.

Increased consideration of yield in the admission process, via algorithms from the enrollment management consulting industry, has led to weird results. Plenty of kids with more reasonably-achievable stats get admitted to these schools. Do not assume that just because kid x did or did not get in, that the kid's stats imply the same result for kids with higher or lower stats than them. If kids with good stats are not getting in, the most likely culprit is the algorithm used by the school.

The algorithm would account for many factors, including but not limited to the likelihood that the student may (or may not) have not only more prestigious options, but more affordable ones. And, if the student is admitted, OOS merit is all determined by algorithm.

BULLSHIT

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My friend's daughter, in MCPS, was accepted at Ohio State with a 3.0 GPA and TO (because the scores were not great). My friend believes she got in because she's out of state and full pay. Caucasian, no hook.

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^actually I don't know if she submitted her test score or not.

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Anonymous wrote:The competitiveness of college admissions has trickled down to top 50-75 universities. UW Madison, Ohio State, and UGA have turned away students with straight As and a 1500+ SAT score. The average admitted student at UGA has taken at least 11 AP classes. You have to be a top student to get into many of the football schools you see on TV now.

Increased consideration of yield in the admission process, via algorithms from the enrollment management consulting industry, has led to weird results. Plenty of kids with more reasonably-achievable stats get admitted to these schools. Do not assume that just because kid x did or did not get in, that the kid's stats imply the same result for kids with higher or lower stats than them. If kids with good stats are not getting in, the most likely culprit is the algorithm used by the school.

The algorithm would account for many factors, including but not limited to the likelihood that the student may (or may not) have not only more prestigious options, but more affordable ones. And, if the student is admitted, OOS merit is all determined by algorithm.

BULLSHIT

Yelling is not moving the discussion forward. Which part do you believe is incorrect? That enrollment management consulting is a multibillion dollar industry that uses proprietary algorithms? This is 2025. I can't say I'm a fan, but algorithms are, in fact, used in the shaping of the class before offers are made. Consider College Board's Landscape tool, which plays just one part, is used by most colleges, and includes data on applicants down to the level of census tract.

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Anonymous wrote:The competitiveness of college admissions has trickled down to top 50-75 universities. UW Madison, Ohio State, and UGA have turned away students with straight As and a 1500+ SAT score. The average admitted student at UGA has taken at least 11 AP classes. You have to be a top student to get into many of the football schools you see on TV now.

Increased consideration of yield in the admission process, via algorithms from the enrollment management consulting industry, has led to weird results. Plenty of kids with more reasonably-achievable stats get admitted to these schools. Do not assume that just because kid x did or did not get in, that the kid's stats imply the same result for kids with higher or lower stats than them. If kids with good stats are not getting in, the most likely culprit is the algorithm used by the school.

The algorithm would account for many factors, including but not limited to the likelihood that the student may (or may not) have not only more prestigious options, but more affordable ones. And, if the student is admitted, OOS merit is all determined by algorithm.

BULLSHIT

Yelling is not moving the discussion forward. Which part do you believe is incorrect? That enrollment management consulting is a multibillion dollar industry that uses proprietary algorithms? This is 2025. I can't say I'm a fan, but algorithms are, in fact, used in the shaping of the class before offers are made. Consider College Board's Landscape tool, which plays just one part, is used by most colleges, and includes data on applicants down to the level of census tract.

Landscape isn’t the same as the BULLSHIT that you are spewing.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Those are in state students, friend. Kids from the DMV who get in have top stats.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend's daughter, in MCPS, was accepted at Ohio State with a 3.0 GPA and TO (because the scores were not great). My friend believes she got in because she's out of state and full pay. Caucasian, no hook.

Ohio State is not UGA.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Those are in state students, friend. Kids from the DMV who get in have top stats.

I can promise you that the OOS kids do NOT all have top stats, since I personally know kids from the DMV who got in with mediocre profiles. I don't know why you keep arguing when both data and anecdotes are against you. Why are you trying to sell these schools so badly?

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Anonymous wrote:The competitiveness of college admissions has trickled down to top 50-75 universities. UW Madison, Ohio State, and UGA have turned away students with straight As and a 1500+ SAT score. The average admitted student at UGA has taken at least 11 AP classes. You have to be a top student to get into many of the football schools you see on TV now.

Increased consideration of yield in the admission process, via algorithms from the enrollment management consulting industry, has led to weird results. Plenty of kids with more reasonably-achievable stats get admitted to these schools. Do not assume that just because kid x did or did not get in, that the kid's stats imply the same result for kids with higher or lower stats than them. If kids with good stats are not getting in, the most likely culprit is the algorithm used by the school.

The algorithm would account for many factors, including but not limited to the likelihood that the student may (or may not) have not only more prestigious options, but more affordable ones. And, if the student is admitted, OOS merit is all determined by algorithm.

BULLSHIT

Yelling is not moving the discussion forward. Which part do you believe is incorrect? That enrollment management consulting is a multibillion dollar industry that uses proprietary algorithms? This is 2025. I can't say I'm a fan, but algorithms are, in fact, used in the shaping of the class before offers are made. Consider College Board's Landscape tool, which plays just one part, is used by most colleges, and includes data on applicants down to the level of census tract.

Landscape isn’t the same as the BULLSHIT that you are spewing.

PP, this is a bot. The yelling gives it away.