People really underestimate how hard it is to get into state flagships like UW Madison, Ohio State, or UGA

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Those are in state students, friend. Kids from the DMV who get in have top stats.

I can promise you that the OOS kids do NOT all have top stats, since I personally know kids from the DMV who got in with mediocre profiles. I don't know why you keep arguing when both data and anecdotes are against you. Why are you trying to sell these schools so badly?

You’re responding to different posters. Nobody believes your anecdotes and you haven’t presented any data specifically about OOS averages. Why don’t you STFU?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This site is sometimes great for info but the pettiness and name calling is really out of control. I can’t believe adults act like this about COLLEGES.

+ 1. So happy my friends are not like this.

+2 and OP seems like she has a kid at one of these schools and isn’t getting enough “oooh wow!” responses when she tells people that.

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Anonymous wrote:This site is sometimes great for info but the pettiness and name calling is really out of control. I can’t believe adults act like this about COLLEGES.

+ 1. So happy my friends are not like this.

+2 and OP seems like she has a kid at one of these schools and isn’t getting enough “oooh wow!” responses when she tells people that.

You are the problem.

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Most people outside this narrow forum are more willing to talk about the flagships’ football teams than the admissions wow factor. No one cares. They’re all good schools and have great outcomes. Give it a rest.

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These Big Ten schools are huge. They have large departments so it really depends. But in general for schools like Michigan, Ohio State, MSU, Indiana, Penn State the top 10 or 15 percent will be able to get into their home state flagship.

That hasn't changed for 40 years.

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Anonymous wrote:These Big Ten schools are huge. They have large departments so it really depends. But in general for schools like Michigan, Ohio State, MSU, Indiana, Penn State the top 10 or 15 percent will be able to get into their home state flagship.

That hasn't changed for 40 years.

Top 10-15% is elite.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Those are in state students, friend. Kids from the DMV who get in have top stats.

I can promise you that the OOS kids do NOT all have top stats, since I personally know kids from the DMV who got in with mediocre profiles. I don't know why you keep arguing when both data and anecdotes are against you. Why are you trying to sell these schools so badly?

You’re responding to different posters. Nobody believes your anecdotes and you haven’t presented any data specifically about OOS averages. Why don’t you STFU?

I was responding to the poster I quoted. Data has been posted by others. And you, my friend, lose credibility when you swear.

You're nothing but a troll at this point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

If you have a neurotypical kid in the DC area, I'd say there's nothing special about getting over 1400 or 1500.

I would never do well on the test because I can't pay attention to it. Too boring. lol

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Those are in state students, friend. Kids from the DMV who get in have top stats.

I can promise you that the OOS kids do NOT all have top stats, since I personally know kids from the DMV who got in with mediocre profiles. I don't know why you keep arguing when both data and anecdotes are against you. Why are you trying to sell these schools so badly?

You’re responding to different posters. Nobody believes your anecdotes and you haven’t presented any data specifically about OOS averages. Why don’t you STFU?

I was responding to the poster I quoted. Data has been posted by others. And you, my friend, lose credibility when you swear.

You're nothing but a troll at this point.

Agree. Swearing is weak.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

"Taking AP classes" is not the same as getting 5s on AP exams.

I know plenty of kids who took tons of AP classes (and even got As in them!) but got 2s on the AP exams, or didn't bother to take the AP exam because they knew they would do poorly.

The number of AP courses taken matter more for college admissions to top colleges than the score. Especially for Seniors ( when most AP courses are taken), where most acceptances are granted before the actual AP exam is taken.

And to your comment, "A" grades in AP courses are what top colleges want. The score is almost an afterthought. That's part of knowing the nuances of the elite college admissions game some people pay thousands to college counselors for.

Everyone gets an A in AP classes. Grades are irrelevant.

Lol, you live in a bubble. Where do you think the 1s on AP tests come from? I can assure you there's a full range of grades from A to C in parts of America that are much different from DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Those are in state students, friend. Kids from the DMV who get in have top stats.

I can promise you that the OOS kids do NOT all have top stats, since I personally know kids from the DMV who got in with mediocre profiles. I don't know why you keep arguing when both data and anecdotes are against you. Why are you trying to sell these schools so badly?

You’re responding to different posters. Nobody believes your anecdotes and you haven’t presented any data specifically about OOS averages. Why don’t you STFU?

I was responding to the poster I quoted. Data has been posted by others. And you, my friend, lose credibility when you swear.

You're nothing but a troll at this point.

You didn’t post OOS data and you rely on anecdotes so you’re the one without any credibility. You must not be used to being held accountable when you unsuccessfully try to bullshit.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Those are in state students, friend. Kids from the DMV who get in have top stats.

Those are also for 2024. This year got much harder for OOs b/g UGA increased its target enrollment for in-state students while OOS applications increased significantly.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Those are in state students, friend. Kids from the DMV who get in have top stats.

Those are also for 2024. This year got much harder for OOs b/g UGA increased its target enrollment for in-state students while OOS applications increased significantly.

AT UGA 47,860 applicants there were over 15,800 admits. A total increase of 12 percent total apps from last year. That's really not that big of an increase. Others schools saw much bigger increases.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Those are in state students, friend. Kids from the DMV who get in have top stats.

Those are also for 2024. This year got much harder for OOs b/g UGA increased its target enrollment for in-state students while OOS applications increased significantly.

AT UGA 47,860 applicants there were over 15,800 admits. A total increase of 12 percent total apps from last year. That's really not that big of an increase. Others schools saw much bigger increases.

Shut up lol you’re embarrassing yourself. UGA’s apps are up and stats are higher than you want to admit and now you’re pivoting to a pathetic argument of how much apps are up. Look, apps increased and the stats increased. Move on.

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Anonymous wrote:This site is sometimes great for info but the pettiness and name calling is really out of control. I can’t believe adults act like this about COLLEGES.

Not all adults. Most of us are just happy to support our kids and our friends’ kids and we don’t care about the prestige of the college. We know it doesn’t matter in the long run.

But I agree that there’s a percentage of posters on this particular site who think “top” schools matter.