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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The competitiveness of college admissions has trickled down to top 50-75 universities. UW Madison, Ohio State, and UGA have turned away students with straight As and a 1500+ SAT score. The average admitted student at UGA has taken at least 11 AP classes. You have to be a top student to get into many of the football schools you see on TV now. [/quote] Increased consideration of yield in the admission process, via algorithms from the enrollment management consulting industry, has led to weird results. Plenty of kids with more reasonably-achievable stats get admitted to these schools. Do not assume that just because kid x did or did not get in, that the kid's stats imply the same result for kids with higher or lower stats than them. If kids with good stats are not getting in, the most likely culprit is the algorithm used by the school. The algorithm would account for many factors, including but not limited to the likelihood that the student may (or may not) have not only more prestigious options, but more affordable ones. And, if the student is admitted, OOS merit is all determined by algorithm.[/quote] BULLSHIT[/quote] Yelling is not moving the discussion forward. Which part do you believe is incorrect? That enrollment management consulting is a multibillion dollar industry that uses proprietary algorithms? This is 2025. I can't say I'm a fan, but algorithms are, in fact, used in the shaping of the class before offers are made. Consider College Board's Landscape tool, which plays just one part, is used by most colleges, and includes data on applicants down to the level of census tract.[/quote] Landscape isn’t the same as the BULLSHIT that you are spewing. [/quote] PP, this is a bot. The yelling gives it away.[/quote]
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