GLP-1s feel like a super power

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why people care or seem to look down on the use of these drugs. It makes people healthier and the side effects seem to be minimal so who cares? Why would you want to be negative about that?

It's jealousy. People who lose weight on this drug convince themselves that people who are slimmer are simply able to be that way with little effort or with some sort of natural will power. Meanwhile, for most of us, it is a big effort to keep weight off, especially when you are over 50. It's kind of annoying when people are rhapsodising about how easy it is when it is hard work for many of us. I am not obese and do not qualify for these drugs and so I have to try to maintain control over food and exercise. Meanwhile, I have friends who were not obese in the first place but managed to get a prescription and talk about how easy it is and that they feel like they are 'cheating' since they have not changed the sort of food they eat and do no exercise. I absolutely get that this is not the case for everyone. But maybe you understand that it can get grating.

I think this is the best explanation I've read of why some people are uncharitable about these drugs. It is not a world of naturally skinny people who don't think about food and more overweight people who think about food all the time. There are also thin people who have fought tooth and nail to maintain being skinny and yes, they are jealous that now there is an easier way to stay thin and since they are thin already using the gut it out approach they can't take these drugs. They're pissed at you all and hungry.

[Anonymous]

I agree 100%. I’m hoping I can take them the rest of my life. I’m going to pay out of pocket if I have to.

Even my skin looks better! They are a miracle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why people care or seem to look down on the use of these drugs. It makes people healthier and the side effects seem to be minimal so who cares? Why would you want to be negative about that?

It's jealousy. People who lose weight on this drug convince themselves that people who are slimmer are simply able to be that way with little effort or with some sort of natural will power. Meanwhile, for most of us, it is a big effort to keep weight off, especially when you are over 50. It's kind of annoying when people are rhapsodising about how easy it is when it is hard work for many of us. I am not obese and do not qualify for these drugs and so I have to try to maintain control over food and exercise. Meanwhile, I have friends who were not obese in the first place but managed to get a prescription and talk about how easy it is and that they feel like they are 'cheating' since they have not changed the sort of food they eat and do no exercise. I absolutely get that this is not the case for everyone. But maybe you understand that it can get grating.

Are people healthier when they take GLP-1s? Most health experts I've seen certainly dont seem to think so

[Anonymous]

Totally agree OP - it really makes me feel like a different type of person around food. It is amazing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah because it's artificially taking away your appetite, lol. It's nothing to do with your own self control or anything, just a drug that allows you to have some will power for once.

Yes. That is the point. It is a miracle drug for a lot of people. That is a good thing.

it's a good thing that they didnt develop self control and healthy eating habits?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah because it's artificially taking away your appetite, lol. It's nothing to do with your own self control or anything, just a drug that allows you to have some will power for once.

Yes. That is the point. It is a miracle drug for a lot of people. That is a good thing.

it's a good thing that they didnt develop self control and healthy eating habits?

You’re tiring. I have self control and healthy eating habits and have gained all kinds of weight post late pregnancy and early menopause that isn’t related to those things. Get over yourself. You’ll have to find a new way to demonstrate your superiority.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah because it's artificially taking away your appetite, lol. It's nothing to do with your own self control or anything, just a drug that allows you to have some will power for once.

Yes. That is the point. It is a miracle drug for a lot of people. That is a good thing.

it's a good thing that they didnt develop self control and healthy eating habits?

Or maybe it’s a good thing for people with PCOS, people with genetically high a1C, people with other PHYSICAL or mental health issues diagnosed by actual medical professionals.

I’m not a fan of the vanity users either and I think they are causing harm for the people whose medical history proves their body does not lose weight without intervention. But for people with legitimate medical issues it has been a game changer to get to healthy weights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Awesome news. I also love food. I’m starting Zep tomorrow and I’m really excited.

Thanks for the supportive comment. That's what I'm on (tirzepatide compounded, which is the generic of Zep). I've always looked at people who've been able to eat the way I'm eating on this drug and think they had absolute supreme willpower, and wonder how the heck they could do it so consistently.

Now I am that person. It really does feel like magic.

I am excited for you and wish you the best!

I’m so confused — I thought that compounded tirzepatide could no longer be sold.

You say this on every thread, but never with any citation. Clearly folks are still getting compounded weight loss drugs. I don't know why you keep bringing it up without doing some research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: fellow GLP user who is now down the 20 pounds I have desperately wanted to loose for a very long time -- woohoo

Question for the thread ---

I have dropped about 2 pants sizes, and all of my old jeans are no longer wearable. Did you hang on to your bigger clothes knowing you will likely jump back up a few pounds? How long until I can donate?!?!

I keep a range of sizes at all times! 6-12. Size 12 was a bad time, and what motivated me to start the drug. Pretty pleased I still had those 6s and 8s stashed away so I didn't need to buy all new.

And yeah, I'm keeping the 12s, hoping never to see them again but being realistic and financially responsible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah because it's artificially taking away your appetite, lol. It's nothing to do with your own self control or anything, just a drug that allows you to have some will power for once.

Yes. That is the point. It is a miracle drug for a lot of people. That is a good thing.

it's a good thing that they didnt develop self control and healthy eating habits?

Or maybe it’s a good thing for people with PCOS, people with genetically high a1C, people with other PHYSICAL or mental health issues diagnosed by actual medical professionals.

I’m not a fan of the vanity users either and I think they are causing harm for the people whose medical history proves their body does not lose weight without intervention. But for people with legitimate medical issues it has been a game changer to get to healthy weights.

Sure, which is not the vast majority of users, who are mostly people like OP who admit to binging on cocktail weenies and burrito bowls.

Oh no, someone has multiple good things! This must be stopped!!

[Anonymous]

Your friend is the one either the super power since she was born with it.

[Anonymous]

Over the past 16 months I've lost a third of my body weight on tirzepatide.

It has been astonishing, thrilling, life-changing and profound.

I want to thank a pp for the analogy of depression and SSRIs. I think that's the best analogy I've heard - it feels accurate, is kind, and is (for me) an important reframing.

My son is on an SSRI, and thank god it has helped. I no more want him to feel shame about that than I was to feel shame about tirzepatide. Thank you for that pp!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why people care or seem to look down on the use of these drugs. It makes people healthier and the side effects seem to be minimal so who cares? Why would you want to be negative about that?

It's jealousy. People who lose weight on this drug convince themselves that people who are slimmer are simply able to be that way with little effort or with some sort of natural will power. Meanwhile, for most of us, it is a big effort to keep weight off, especially when you are over 50. It's kind of annoying when people are rhapsodising about how easy it is when it is hard work for many of us. I am not obese and do not qualify for these drugs and so I have to try to maintain control over food and exercise. Meanwhile, I have friends who were not obese in the first place but managed to get a prescription and talk about how easy it is and that they feel like they are 'cheating' since they have not changed the sort of food they eat and do no exercise. I absolutely get that this is not the case for everyone. But maybe you understand that it can get grating.

Are people healthier when they take GLP-1s? Most health experts I've seen certainly dont seem to think so

I don't think you are correct. I know many people who were able to go off other meds, including for diabetes and high blood pressure, because they lost weight through these drugs. If losing the weight prevents heart attacks and stroke and other risks that come from obesity, yes, you are healthier from being on the weight loss drugs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why people care or seem to look down on the use of these drugs. It makes people healthier and the side effects seem to be minimal so who cares? Why would you want to be negative about that?

It's jealousy. People who lose weight on this drug convince themselves that people who are slimmer are simply able to be that way with little effort or with some sort of natural will power. Meanwhile, for most of us, it is a big effort to keep weight off, especially when you are over 50. It's kind of annoying when people are rhapsodising about how easy it is when it is hard work for many of us. I am not obese and do not qualify for these drugs and so I have to try to maintain control over food and exercise. Meanwhile, I have friends who were not obese in the first place but managed to get a prescription and talk about how easy it is and that they feel like they are 'cheating' since they have not changed the sort of food they eat and do no exercise. I absolutely get that this is not the case for everyone. But maybe you understand that it can get grating.

Are people healthier when they take GLP-1s? Most health experts I've seen certainly dont seem to think so

I don't think you are correct. I know many people who were able to go off other meds, including for diabetes and high blood pressure, because they lost weight through these drugs. If losing the weight prevents heart attacks and stroke and other risks that come from obesity, yes, you are healthier from being on the weight loss drugs

Yes, for those who are severely obese/unhealthy and their health/body is an otherwise lost cause, its a big help. for anyone who is NOT morbidly obese or who has severe health issues as a result of their lack of self control, most health experts strongly advise against it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why people care or seem to look down on the use of these drugs. It makes people healthier and the side effects seem to be minimal so who cares? Why would you want to be negative about that?

It's jealousy. People who lose weight on this drug convince themselves that people who are slimmer are simply able to be that way with little effort or with some sort of natural will power. Meanwhile, for most of us, it is a big effort to keep weight off, especially when you are over 50. It's kind of annoying when people are rhapsodising about how easy it is when it is hard work for many of us. I am not obese and do not qualify for these drugs and so I have to try to maintain control over food and exercise. Meanwhile, I have friends who were not obese in the first place but managed to get a prescription and talk about how easy it is and that they feel like they are 'cheating' since they have not changed the sort of food they eat and do no exercise. I absolutely get that this is not the case for everyone. But maybe you understand that it can get grating.

Are people healthier when they take GLP-1s? Most health experts I've seen certainly dont seem to think so

I don't think you are correct. I know many people who were able to go off other meds, including for diabetes and high blood pressure, because they lost weight through these drugs. If losing the weight prevents heart attacks and stroke and other risks that come from obesity, yes, you are healthier from being on the weight loss drugs

Yes, for those who are severely obese/unhealthy and their health/body is an otherwise lost cause, its a big help. for anyone who is NOT morbidly obese or who has severe health issues as a result of their lack of self control, most health experts strongly advise against it.

Whereas I'm seeing headlines all over the place about how the new drug class may reduce the risk of all kinds of health issues. Even being a little overweight increases the risk of heart, kidney, and liver function. And due to a human's musculoskeletal design, we need to be a little under weight per current standards for optimum joint health.

But more interesting and less glaringly obvious, in studies of people with Type 2 diabetes, research has turned up a link to reduction of risk of developing dementia. Not sure how that works, since they've only been available a few years, but I'm not a scientist. Maybe someone else can parse it out for us: https://thedaily.case.edu/popular-diabetes-and-weight-loss-drug-may-reduce-risk-of-alzheimers-disease/

So I think you're full of shit, and just saying stuff that feels true to you. Your "most health experts" sounds like DJT's "many people are saying..."