GLP-1s feel like a super power

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how brainwashed people are with regard to these drugs.

Unless you have a legitimate illness you can do this without the drugs. Eat less. Move more. Cut out the processed crap. Allow the body to reset; it takes time.

If you aren’t in medical need, you need to work on yourself not use a drug. Why would you attach yourself to something you’ll need for the rest of your life because you don’t like the way you look? It truly feels like our world has gone insane.

Imagine saying something like this to someone suffering with depression! You don't need drugs, just decide to be happy! /s

I don't think you understand metabolic disorders and it makes you sound ignorant.

A metabolic disorder is an illness. So, no, I am not ignorant. And I have 2 family members on these drugs. One due to a metabolic illness/disease state and one who has disordered eating but loves processed food, was already thin but wanted to be skinny.

[Anonymous]

I wish I could try these so bad. I wish they weren't reserved for only obese people.

If everyone was on them, imagine the impact on our global food supply! So many people are eating double the amount they need to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how brainwashed people are with regard to these drugs.

Unless you have a legitimate illness you can do this without the drugs. Eat less. Move more. Cut out the processed crap. Allow the body to reset; it takes time.

If you aren’t in medical need, you need to work on yourself not use a drug. Why would you attach yourself to something you’ll need for the rest of your life because you don’t like the way you look? It truly feels like our world has gone insane.

Imagine saying something like this to someone suffering with depression! You don't need drugs, just decide to be happy! /s

I don't think you understand metabolic disorders and it makes you sound ignorant.

Is it your claim that everyone taking a GLP1 has a metabolic disorder?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listen up, people.

Only 6% of Americans eat the RDA of fiber every day. SIX PERCENT.

The RDA of fiber is 25g for females and 38g for males.

Historically human beings consumed around 100g daily of fiber, before the advent of processed foods.

We evolved over six million years to consume a diet high in fiber, which feeds the bacteria that live in our gut and elsewhere in our bodies. We are actually made of many, many more bacteria than of our own cells. When our bacteria are sick, we get sick - from chronic inflammatory conditions to cancers like colon cancer.

When we don't eat fiber we can't produce short chain fatty acids, there are no supplements, this is something that our passenger bacteria make when they eat fiber in our gut. If we don't eat fiber, no SCFAs - and SCFAs are fundamental to good health.

These diet drugs work to reduce weight, they work to reduce weight related illnesses. But they are very much a band aid on a wound that will still fester.

The key to good health is to ditch the junk and learn to love REAL FOOD.

Listen I am not judging anybody - I am struggling with my weight and have a whole lot more than 20lbs to lose. I was normal weight for nearly 40 years despite consuming the unhealthy standard American diet, but after some health issues in my early 40s that all came crashing down and weight piled on.

I struggle to eat clean all the time, and have compromised by giving myself at least one day per week - more often the whole weekend - to eat stuff that makes my mouth and mind happy but which doesn't feed my 38 trillion passengers. I try hard to feed those guys as a priority at least 5 days a week. I've learned to eat things that were never really fed to me growing up and I have transformed my gut health. My buddies can tolerate General Gau's chicken once a week so long as they get prunes, dates, figs, beans, apples, bananas, leafy greens, nuts, seeds, whole grains the rest of the week. On the days that I start out having beans for breakfast, I hardly think about food all day long. I carry around my little containers of figs, dates, prunes, nuts, etc. and eat them whether I feel hungry or not.

So if you don't have a grand to spend on GLP-1s every month, try REAL FOOD. It's far less expensive and you will be amazed (I was!) by the transformation of your skin, hair, mood etc. when you are giving your buddies a steady supply of the food THEY like, and in return they give you a steady supply of SCFAs.

Thank you for this! Fiber is so important and as we learn more about gut health, studies are showing that many autoimmune diseases are caused by messed up gut bacteria. Over the past couple years I've been slowly increasing my daily fiber. I can now tolerate so many more foods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how brainwashed people are with regard to these drugs.

Unless you have a legitimate illness you can do this without the drugs. Eat less. Move more. Cut out the processed crap. Allow the body to reset; it takes time.

If you aren’t in medical need, you need to work on yourself not use a drug. Why would you attach yourself to something you’ll need for the rest of your life because you don’t like the way you look? It truly feels like our world has gone insane.

Imagine saying something like this to someone suffering with depression! You don't need drugs, just decide to be happy! /s

I don't think you understand metabolic disorders and it makes you sound ignorant.

Is it your claim that everyone taking a GLP1 has a metabolic disorder?

I’m not the PP but I think that we are going to eventually find that something in our modern lifestyle has triggered (from childhood) some sort of low-level diabetes-like endocrine/metabolic disorder that is not yet detectable with modern medicine. There are too many non-weight benefits to the drugs — something metabolic is being addressed. I won’t say “fixed,” because the drugs are treating symptoms not the cause.

Doctors are reporting that patients with things like arthritis have that clear up before they even lose any significant weight. My own dermatologist told me that her patients with severe rosacea have the rosacea clear up within days of starting. These are people without diabetes (officially) but who react across their whole body as if something profound is being treated.

There is something else going on here. We just don’t know what it is. But I think we are going to learn that weight is just a symptom of a serious metabolic or endocrine disorder we as a society have induced in our population. There isn’t another logical explanation for all the immediate non-weight changes for patients who do not have a diabetes diagnosis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen up, people.

Only 6% of Americans eat the RDA of fiber every day. SIX PERCENT.

The RDA of fiber is 25g for females and 38g for males.

Historically human beings consumed around 100g daily of fiber, before the advent of processed foods.

We evolved over six million years to consume a diet high in fiber, which feeds the bacteria that live in our gut and elsewhere in our bodies. We are actually made of many, many more bacteria than of our own cells. When our bacteria are sick, we get sick - from chronic inflammatory conditions to cancers like colon cancer.

When we don't eat fiber we can't produce short chain fatty acids, there are no supplements, this is something that our passenger bacteria make when they eat fiber in our gut. If we don't eat fiber, no SCFAs - and SCFAs are fundamental to good health.

These diet drugs work to reduce weight, they work to reduce weight related illnesses. But they are very much a band aid on a wound that will still fester.

The key to good health is to ditch the junk and learn to love REAL FOOD.

Listen I am not judging anybody - I am struggling with my weight and have a whole lot more than 20lbs to lose. I was normal weight for nearly 40 years despite consuming the unhealthy standard American diet, but after some health issues in my early 40s that all came crashing down and weight piled on.

I struggle to eat clean all the time, and have compromised by giving myself at least one day per week - more often the whole weekend - to eat stuff that makes my mouth and mind happy but which doesn't feed my 38 trillion passengers. I try hard to feed those guys as a priority at least 5 days a week. I've learned to eat things that were never really fed to me growing up and I have transformed my gut health. My buddies can tolerate General Gau's chicken once a week so long as they get prunes, dates, figs, beans, apples, bananas, leafy greens, nuts, seeds, whole grains the rest of the week. On the days that I start out having beans for breakfast, I hardly think about food all day long. I carry around my little containers of figs, dates, prunes, nuts, etc. and eat them whether I feel hungry or not.

So if you don't have a grand to spend on GLP-1s every month, try REAL FOOD. It's far less expensive and you will be amazed (I was!) by the transformation of your skin, hair, mood etc. when you are giving your buddies a steady supply of the food THEY like, and in return they give you a steady supply of SCFAs.

Thank you for this! Fiber is so important and as we learn more about gut health, studies are showing that many autoimmune diseases are caused by messed up gut bacteria. Over the past couple years I've been slowly increasing my daily fiber. I can now tolerate so many more foods.

wow thank you for this!! my pcp and nutritionist never thought of this! this is news to all of us! I've never tried eating healthy! who needs their own medical professionals and advice - you've done such a service to all of us who didn't know bottomless bowls of carbs and fried foods weren't the answer to health and weight loss. truly miraculous 🙏 the weight will start falling off today. Bless your heart!

[Anonymous]

They are a superpower; however, my face got too thin! In addition to the money I've spent on GLP-1s, I have to spend money on lasers and discrete fillers for my face because the rapid weight loss was quite aging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen up, people.

Only 6% of Americans eat the RDA of fiber every day. SIX PERCENT.

The RDA of fiber is 25g for females and 38g for males.

Historically human beings consumed around 100g daily of fiber, before the advent of processed foods.

We evolved over six million years to consume a diet high in fiber, which feeds the bacteria that live in our gut and elsewhere in our bodies. We are actually made of many, many more bacteria than of our own cells. When our bacteria are sick, we get sick - from chronic inflammatory conditions to cancers like colon cancer.

When we don't eat fiber we can't produce short chain fatty acids, there are no supplements, this is something that our passenger bacteria make when they eat fiber in our gut. If we don't eat fiber, no SCFAs - and SCFAs are fundamental to good health.

These diet drugs work to reduce weight, they work to reduce weight related illnesses. But they are very much a band aid on a wound that will still fester.

The key to good health is to ditch the junk and learn to love REAL FOOD.

Listen I am not judging anybody - I am struggling with my weight and have a whole lot more than 20lbs to lose. I was normal weight for nearly 40 years despite consuming the unhealthy standard American diet, but after some health issues in my early 40s that all came crashing down and weight piled on.

I struggle to eat clean all the time, and have compromised by giving myself at least one day per week - more often the whole weekend - to eat stuff that makes my mouth and mind happy but which doesn't feed my 38 trillion passengers. I try hard to feed those guys as a priority at least 5 days a week. I've learned to eat things that were never really fed to me growing up and I have transformed my gut health. My buddies can tolerate General Gau's chicken once a week so long as they get prunes, dates, figs, beans, apples, bananas, leafy greens, nuts, seeds, whole grains the rest of the week. On the days that I start out having beans for breakfast, I hardly think about food all day long. I carry around my little containers of figs, dates, prunes, nuts, etc. and eat them whether I feel hungry or not.

So if you don't have a grand to spend on GLP-1s every month, try REAL FOOD. It's far less expensive and you will be amazed (I was!) by the transformation of your skin, hair, mood etc. when you are giving your buddies a steady supply of the food THEY like, and in return they give you a steady supply of SCFAs.

Thank you for this! Fiber is so important and as we learn more about gut health, studies are showing that many autoimmune diseases are caused by messed up gut bacteria. Over the past couple years I've been slowly increasing my daily fiber. I can now tolerate so many more foods.

wow thank you for this!! my pcp and nutritionist never thought of this! this is news to all of us! I've never tried eating healthy! who needs their own medical professionals and advice - you've done such a service to all of us who didn't know bottomless bowls of carbs and fried foods weren't the answer to health and weight loss. truly miraculous 🙏 the weight will start falling off today. Bless your heart!

Look, I know you think you're terribly clever with this snarky post, but it is laughable to anybody who has done even a modicum of research into this area of emerging medical science.

The vast majority of medical schools have zero education on nutrition, and those that do have a couple of hours of instruction. Most physicians are clueless about nutrition, and the emerging science of gut biome studies is just that - emerging, as in we have learned a ton in the last decade alone.

Most doctors don't know much about it and many hand out terrible advice to their patients. This is acknowledged within the medical field for pity's sake. Beyond which it is very hard to educate patients on major lifestyle issues when you get to spend 15-30 minutes with them once or twice a year.

The Physician's Committe for Responsible Medicine has a podcast called The Exam Room with Chuck Carroll - Chuck is a guy who once weighed around 400 lbs, got bariatric surgery, then learned to live a plant based lifestyle. The podcast tries to educate folks on transitioning to a plant based lifestyle for HEALTH. One of the frequent guests is a gastroenterologist Dr. Will Bulsiewicz who promotes a fiber fueled lifestyle and educates other physicians and patients on the gut biome and what is healthy for your 38 trillion passengers versus what makes them very sick and in turn makes YOU very sick. This is science, it's not fad dieting.

And I'm sorry but I cannot accept anybody telling me that they ate truly clean and could not lose a pound. If you are eating truly clean and moving your body, you WILL lose weight. If you are meeting and/or exceeding the RDA of fiber every day, you will lose the food noise that GLP-1s also make you lose, because regular consumption of a fiber rich diet causes those hormones to be produced in your gut naturally and you get the same satiety effect as from the drugs, but with no side effects except a little gas while your gut readjusts to a healthy diet - the diet we evolved to eat for 6 million years. We are primates and primates mostly eat plants - look at your teeth and you will see that your dentition is designed to eat primarily plants.

In the space of a few generations the human population (particularly of developed nations) has rapidly transitioned from consuming high fiber plant based diets to eating tons of saturated fats from meats (linked to obesity) and sugars in dozens of forms that are not attached to fiber and processed foods laden with seed oils, emulsifiers and preservatives. Our 38 trillion passengers who evolved alongside us - well actually, inside us - cannot thrive on those food-like products which aren't really real foods. They just can't. Consuming a steady diet of these food products kills good bacteria and results in overgrowth of bad bacteria, bacteria that damages the gut lining and ultimately promotes the growth of cancer cells and/or the development of gut disorders like IBS, etc.

I am not judging or being nasty, I am simply pointing out that the number on the scale and the weight carried on the frame is not the only issue. The fact is that many people take the drugs and merely eat LESS of the same crappy foods they were consuming to get fat. So doing that alone is not health promoting. It might well reduce the incidence of weight related illnesses, but it's not promoting optimal health and if you are doing this while feeding your growing children a bunch of meat, processed foods, sugar laden foods, etc. you aren't modeling health for them and they will end up where you are in a few decades and they might be one of the growing number of young adults who die of colon cancer.

Feed your 38 trillion friends, first and foremost. Your body is their home and they deserve a good landlord.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think this is the best explanation I've read of why some people are uncharitable about these drugs. It is not a world of naturally skinny people who don't think about food and more overweight people who think about food all the time. There are also thin people who have fought tooth and nail to maintain being skinny and yes, they are jealous that now there is an easier way to stay thin and since they are thin already using the gut it out approach they can't take these drugs. They're pissed at you all and hungry.

NP. I think an even more important aspect for many of the disciplined Tracy Flick types is that they're no longer special standouts in the banging bod department. They've ^^ fought tooth and nail to have the most special pretty Barre bodies, the best lasered faces, the buttery-est highlights, the most uniform veneered teeth ... but mainly the skinny thing.

And now, especially in certain zipcodes, we're ALL thin! Size 4 Emily doesn't stand out anymore at the Club 4th of July party.

Disciplined Tracy Flick types? Well, it’s good that you are all finally admitting that you aren’t disciplined.

I'm moderately disciplined in many domains and I also love cannoli. But whatever, now I'm thin and toned (see, the discipline comes in w/r/t regular strength training and cardio). And I'll still put away 1/2 a cannoli whenever I'm with family. Go cry into your cup of miso broth.

Oh, look at you. You tried to mock people for being disciplined, but you just told on yourself. Sorry you need drugs to stop at half a cannoli.

PP here. I don’t mind though. I literally get to have my cake and eat half of it, too. GLP-1s have so many additional physiological gut-brain benefits totally apart from face stuffing! So people like me get the happy byproduct of the injections: dementia risk lowered, decreased inflammatory markers, improved dopamine uptake and more. And all this despite modest weight loss!! It’s amazing

And as a lifetime casual runner now in my 50s I can attest that that the drug actually moves the needle on the things I mentioned, quite apart from (or on top of) plant-based diet and vigorous exercise. Yay us healthy eating exercisers who ALSO take a GLP-1! Even more pay off

[Anonymous]

I'm on legal meth before insurance will pay for tirp and so far same thing. I can be on it for more than 3 months though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how brainwashed people are with regard to these drugs.

Unless you have a legitimate illness you can do this without the drugs. Eat less. Move more. Cut out the processed crap. Allow the body to reset; it takes time.

If you aren’t in medical need, you need to work on yourself not use a drug. Why would you attach yourself to something you’ll need for the rest of your life because you don’t like the way you look? It truly feels like our world has gone insane.

Imagine saying something like this to someone suffering with depression! You don't need drugs, just decide to be happy! /s

I don't think you understand metabolic disorders and it makes you sound ignorant.

Is it your claim that everyone taking a GLP1 has a metabolic disorder?

I’m not the PP but I think that we are going to eventually find that something in our modern lifestyle has triggered (from childhood) some sort of low-level diabetes-like endocrine/metabolic disorder that is not yet detectable with modern medicine. There are too many non-weight benefits to the drugs — something metabolic is being addressed. I won’t say “fixed,” because the drugs are treating symptoms not the cause.

Doctors are reporting that patients with things like arthritis have that clear up before they even lose any significant weight. My own dermatologist told me that her patients with severe rosacea have the rosacea clear up within days of starting. These are people without diabetes (officially) but who react across their whole body as if something profound is being treated.

There is something else going on here. We just don’t know what it is. But I think we are going to learn that weight is just a symptom of a serious metabolic or endocrine disorder we as a society have induced in our population. There isn’t another logical explanation for all the immediate non-weight changes for patients who do not have a diabetes diagnosis.

So let me get this straight. An anti GLP poster must post citations of published studies. But it is okay for a pro- GLP to post their hopes and feelings about the science?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think this is the best explanation I've read of why some people are uncharitable about these drugs. It is not a world of naturally skinny people who don't think about food and more overweight people who think about food all the time. There are also thin people who have fought tooth and nail to maintain being skinny and yes, they are jealous that now there is an easier way to stay thin and since they are thin already using the gut it out approach they can't take these drugs. They're pissed at you all and hungry.

NP. I think an even more important aspect for many of the disciplined Tracy Flick types is that they're no longer special standouts in the banging bod department. They've ^^ fought tooth and nail to have the most special pretty Barre bodies, the best lasered faces, the buttery-est highlights, the most uniform veneered teeth ... but mainly the skinny thing.

And now, especially in certain zipcodes, we're ALL thin! Size 4 Emily doesn't stand out anymore at the Club 4th of July party.

Disciplined Tracy Flick types? Well, it’s good that you are all finally admitting that you aren’t disciplined.

I'm moderately disciplined in many domains and I also love cannoli. But whatever, now I'm thin and toned (see, the discipline comes in w/r/t regular strength training and cardio). And I'll still put away 1/2 a cannoli whenever I'm with family. Go cry into your cup of miso broth.

Oh, look at you. You tried to mock people for being disciplined, but you just told on yourself. Sorry you need drugs to stop at half a cannoli.

PP here. I don’t mind though. I literally get to have my cake and eat half of it, too. GLP-1s have so many additional physiological gut-brain benefits totally apart from face stuffing! So people like me get the happy byproduct of the injections: dementia risk lowered, decreased inflammatory markers, improved dopamine uptake and more. And all this despite modest weight loss!! It’s amazing

And as a lifetime casual runner now in my 50s I can attest that that the drug actually moves the needle on the things I mentioned, quite apart from (or on top of) plant-based diet and vigorous exercise. Yay us healthy eating exercisers who ALSO take a GLP-1! Even more pay off

Ah yes, another set of health claims with no support.

[Anonymous]

wordy B is still wordy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s good that you never want to stop taking it, because you will have to take it forever if you don’t want to gain back the weight.

so.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen up, people.

Only 6% of Americans eat the RDA of fiber every day. SIX PERCENT.

The RDA of fiber is 25g for females and 38g for males.

Historically human beings consumed around 100g daily of fiber, before the advent of processed foods.

We evolved over six million years to consume a diet high in fiber, which feeds the bacteria that live in our gut and elsewhere in our bodies. We are actually made of many, many more bacteria than of our own cells. When our bacteria are sick, we get sick - from chronic inflammatory conditions to cancers like colon cancer.

When we don't eat fiber we can't produce short chain fatty acids, there are no supplements, this is something that our passenger bacteria make when they eat fiber in our gut. If we don't eat fiber, no SCFAs - and SCFAs are fundamental to good health.

These diet drugs work to reduce weight, they work to reduce weight related illnesses. But they are very much a band aid on a wound that will still fester.

The key to good health is to ditch the junk and learn to love REAL FOOD.

Listen I am not judging anybody - I am struggling with my weight and have a whole lot more than 20lbs to lose. I was normal weight for nearly 40 years despite consuming the unhealthy standard American diet, but after some health issues in my early 40s that all came crashing down and weight piled on.

I struggle to eat clean all the time, and have compromised by giving myself at least one day per week - more often the whole weekend - to eat stuff that makes my mouth and mind happy but which doesn't feed my 38 trillion passengers. I try hard to feed those guys as a priority at least 5 days a week. I've learned to eat things that were never really fed to me growing up and I have transformed my gut health. My buddies can tolerate General Gau's chicken once a week so long as they get prunes, dates, figs, beans, apples, bananas, leafy greens, nuts, seeds, whole grains the rest of the week. On the days that I start out having beans for breakfast, I hardly think about food all day long. I carry around my little containers of figs, dates, prunes, nuts, etc. and eat them whether I feel hungry or not.

So if you don't have a grand to spend on GLP-1s every month, try REAL FOOD. It's far less expensive and you will be amazed (I was!) by the transformation of your skin, hair, mood etc. when you are giving your buddies a steady supply of the food THEY like, and in return they give you a steady supply of SCFAs.

Thank you for this! Fiber is so important and as we learn more about gut health, studies are showing that many autoimmune diseases are caused by messed up gut bacteria. Over the past couple years I've been slowly increasing my daily fiber. I can now tolerate so many more foods.

wow thank you for this!! my pcp and nutritionist never thought of this! this is news to all of us! I've never tried eating healthy! who needs their own medical professionals and advice - you've done such a service to all of us who didn't know bottomless bowls of carbs and fried foods weren't the answer to health and weight loss. truly miraculous 🙏 the weight will start falling off today. Bless your heart!

Look, I know you think you're terribly clever with this snarky post, but it is laughable to anybody who has done even a modicum of research into this area of emerging medical science.

The vast majority of medical schools have zero education on nutrition, and those that do have a couple of hours of instruction. Most physicians are clueless about nutrition, and the emerging science of gut biome studies is just that - emerging, as in we have learned a ton in the last decade alone.

Most doctors don't know much about it and many hand out terrible advice to their patients. This is acknowledged within the medical field for pity's sake. Beyond which it is very hard to educate patients on major lifestyle issues when you get to spend 15-30 minutes with them once or twice a year.

The Physician's Committe for Responsible Medicine has a podcast called The Exam Room with Chuck Carroll - Chuck is a guy who once weighed around 400 lbs, got bariatric surgery, then learned to live a plant based lifestyle. The podcast tries to educate folks on transitioning to a plant based lifestyle for HEALTH. One of the frequent guests is a gastroenterologist Dr. Will Bulsiewicz who promotes a fiber fueled lifestyle and educates other physicians and patients on the gut biome and what is healthy for your 38 trillion passengers versus what makes them very sick and in turn makes YOU very sick. This is science, it's not fad dieting.

And I'm sorry but I cannot accept anybody telling me that they ate truly clean and could not lose a pound. If you are eating truly clean and moving your body, you WILL lose weight. If you are meeting and/or exceeding the RDA of fiber every day, you will lose the food noise that GLP-1s also make you lose, because regular consumption of a fiber rich diet causes those hormones to be produced in your gut naturally and you get the same satiety effect as from the drugs, but with no side effects except a little gas while your gut readjusts to a healthy diet - the diet we evolved to eat for 6 million years. We are primates and primates mostly eat plants - look at your teeth and you will see that your dentition is designed to eat primarily plants.

In the space of a few generations the human population (particularly of developed nations) has rapidly transitioned from consuming high fiber plant based diets to eating tons of saturated fats from meats (linked to obesity) and sugars in dozens of forms that are not attached to fiber and processed foods laden with seed oils, emulsifiers and preservatives. Our 38 trillion passengers who evolved alongside us - well actually, inside us - cannot thrive on those food-like products which aren't really real foods. They just can't. Consuming a steady diet of these food products kills good bacteria and results in overgrowth of bad bacteria, bacteria that damages the gut lining and ultimately promotes the growth of cancer cells and/or the development of gut disorders like IBS, etc.

I am not judging or being nasty, I am simply pointing out that the number on the scale and the weight carried on the frame is not the only issue. The fact is that many people take the drugs and merely eat LESS of the same crappy foods they were consuming to get fat. So doing that alone is not health promoting. It might well reduce the incidence of weight related illnesses, but it's not promoting optimal health and if you are doing this while feeding your growing children a bunch of meat, processed foods, sugar laden foods, etc. you aren't modeling health for them and they will end up where you are in a few decades and they might be one of the growing number of young adults who die of colon cancer.

Feed your 38 trillion friends, first and foremost. Your body is their home and they deserve a good landlord.

Oh God the verbose bowel movement lady is back. 🤢 Please for the love of God get a grip, lady.