Trump Baby Bonus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are some of the more "interesting" proposals being considered to boost fertility in the US that are mentioned in the article:

*Reserving 30% of Fulbright scholarships for married applicants or those with children. [I thought the current admin was eliminating the Fullbright program?]

*Providing a $5,000 “baby bonus” for new mothers. [But how are they going to ensure that it motivates the "right" kind of women to have more babies?]

*Funding programs to teach women about their menstrual cycles and fertility awareness. [I'm all for women knowing more about their bodies, but conservatives have been attacking sex ed programs for decades].

*National Medal of Motherhood for women with 6+ children. [Gives Soviet Union vibes.]

WTF??? This isn't satire? This is creepy AF.

[Anonymous]

Women: We need affordable childcare and paid maternity leave.

Republican men: Best we can do is Medal of Motherhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One clue on where the pronatalist agenda of the Trump administration is coming from:

*Project 2025, the policy blueprint that has forecast much of Mr. Trump’s agenda so far, discusses family issues before anything else, opening its first chapter with a promise to “restore the family as the centerpiece of American life.”

*Much of the movement is built around promoting a very specific idea of what constitutes a family — one that includes marriage between a man and a woman, and leaves out many families that don’t conform to traditional gender roles or family structures.

The article ends with this exhortation from Dear Leader--get to it, mamas!

*Mr. Trump himself weighed in on the issue at the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2023, with a statement that has become a rallying cry for many in the movement.

“We will support baby booms and we will support baby bonuses for a new baby boom,” Mr. Trump said. “I want a baby boom.”

Republicans are so gross. How does this square with current MAGA idol Musk’s proclivity to shipping his seed to random women?

[Anonymous]

There is an underlying racial component here also. The Birth rate is particularly low with white women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One clue on where the pronatalist agenda of the Trump administration is coming from:

*Project 2025, the policy blueprint that has forecast much of Mr. Trump’s agenda so far, discusses family issues before anything else, opening its first chapter with a promise to “restore the family as the centerpiece of American life.”

*Much of the movement is built around promoting a very specific idea of what constitutes a family — one that includes marriage between a man and a woman, and leaves out many families that don’t conform to traditional gender roles or family structures.

The article ends with this exhortation from Dear Leader--get to it, mamas!

*Mr. Trump himself weighed in on the issue at the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2023, with a statement that has become a rallying cry for many in the movement.

“We will support baby booms and we will support baby bonuses for a new baby boom,” Mr. Trump said. “I want a baby boom.”

Republicans are so gross. How does this square with current MAGA idol Musk’s proclivity to shipping his seed to random women?

Eugenics. Except in this case it’s attempting to populate the country with mental deficients.

[Anonymous]

Housing is unaffordable, so people can’t afford a home big enough for a family - let alone a large family of 4+ kids. Also the current standard of living for MC+ families is stuff like travel sports (expensive and time consuming), decent travel as a family (expensive and logistically difficult with more kids), and at least partially paying for college (very $$$). Day care is also $$$ and that comes at a time when couples are relatively younger and making a bit less money and can hardly afford it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Housing is unaffordable, so people can’t afford a home big enough for a family - let alone a large family of 4+ kids. Also the current standard of living for MC+ families is stuff like travel sports (expensive and time consuming), decent travel as a family (expensive and logistically difficult with more kids), and at least partially paying for college (very $$$). Day care is also $$$ and that comes at a time when couples are relatively younger and making a bit less money and can hardly afford it.

They don’t care about any of that extra stuff. They don’t care if your kid gets to do any activities, if they go to college or don’t have to share a bedroom with siblings. A lot of Americans have a pretty good standard of living (not everyone, but most) and are unwilling to penny pinch just to have another child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Housing is unaffordable, so people can’t afford a home big enough for a family - let alone a large family of 4+ kids. Also the current standard of living for MC+ families is stuff like travel sports (expensive and time consuming), decent travel as a family (expensive and logistically difficult with more kids), and at least partially paying for college (very $$$). Day care is also $$$ and that comes at a time when couples are relatively younger and making a bit less money and can hardly afford it.

They don’t care about any of that extra stuff. They don’t care if your kid gets to do any activities, if they go to college or don’t have to share a bedroom with siblings. A lot of Americans have a pretty good standard of living (not everyone, but most) and are unwilling to penny pinch just to have another child.

Really any effort to increase the birth rate is going to involve a lowered standard of living. And that’s a very hard sell. Unless you have a single high earner and a SAH parent, every kid you have reduces your standard of living.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Housing is unaffordable, so people can’t afford a home big enough for a family - let alone a large family of 4+ kids. Also the current standard of living for MC+ families is stuff like travel sports (expensive and time consuming), decent travel as a family (expensive and logistically difficult with more kids), and at least partially paying for college (very $$$). Day care is also $$$ and that comes at a time when couples are relatively younger and making a bit less money and can hardly afford it.

They don’t care about any of that extra stuff. They don’t care if your kid gets to do any activities, if they go to college or don’t have to share a bedroom with siblings. A lot of Americans have a pretty good standard of living (not everyone, but most) and are unwilling to penny pinch just to have another child.

Then there are crazy women like me who wanted a third child, can easily afford a third but I almost died during childbirth with my second. Maybe if our country had a better track rate with maternal deaths, it wouldn’t be as scary to have a baby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want a higher birth rate, baby bonuses don’t work. They need to address the housing problem, the economic uncertainty, and the unavailability of daycare/expense of daycare. Men also need to modernize their approach to marriage and family. (Gift article)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/baby-bonuses-fertility-planning-trump-aides-assess-ideas-to-boost-birthrate.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BU8.NtkN.WagWczUEi5e6&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Pro lifers only care about punishing women for having sex. They don't care about pre/post natal care. Once born, these babies are on their own.

[Anonymous]

I can’t get over how out of touch…lol $5000 they clearly don’t know how much the hospital bill is, or the cost of daycare

[Anonymous]

They would be better off giving big tax breaks to companies that have low cost or free on stie day care for their workers. Would help with birthrate and give money to the corporations who are considered to be people more than women.

[Anonymous]

The majority of people I know with lots of kids (3-4+) are either very wealthy or very poor and living off the system. I am MC ($300K HHI) as are most of my friends. We all only want 1-2 kids because we cannot afford more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want a higher birth rate, baby bonuses don’t work. They need to address the housing problem, the economic uncertainty, and the unavailability of daycare/expense of daycare. Men also need to modernize their approach to marriage and family. (Gift article)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/baby-bonuses-fertility-planning-trump-aides-assess-ideas-to-boost-birthrate.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BU8.NtkN.WagWczUEi5e6&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

exactly who gets harmed with lower birthrates?

our nation is already overwhelmed with too many people.

please explain the problem with a lower birthrate?

What are you talking about? We don’t have enough people! If you had your dream and got rid of all the brown people who would pick our props? Who would care for our elderly? Who would build our houses? there aren’t enough white people to do the work.

Why don't we have enough people? It feels like you are advocating just importing a slave labor class and turning this country into a third world - what if these jobs actually payed a legit wage. I don't understand how having more people solves some of the major issues we have today with housing, pay, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The majority of people I know with lots of kids (3-4+) are either very wealthy or very poor and living off the system. I am MC ($300K HHI) as are most of my friends. We all only want 1-2 kids because we cannot afford more.

Most lower middle class and poor families don’t save anything for their children. Keep them happy and alive basically. No sports, no vacations, no expensive clothes or shoes and only the most necessary medical care.