New Policy: APS school board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

And your kid doesn't know they need medication, so they can't ask about it? Or, you can't wait for them to call your child to the office to ensure they're aware?

Ask who? How? If they had their phone they could ask me if I dropped it off and where but how do you want this to happen now that ppl like you took this away.

And you think high schools call kids to the offuce? Hahaha you are clueless. Tell me how that works during lunch please - how do they know where my kid is? Who do they call?

This isn’t elementary school. Last time this happened the school told me to text my child!!!

I’m assuming the medication is not a 911 situation, so they would wait until after lunch, look up their schedule and call her next class to have her come to the office. This is a time tested solution.

Again, they could stop by the office every other period to see if you dropped it off if you doubt the school. The bother of having to do this will be a natural consequence to help them not forgot medicine in the future.

As for them telling you to text your child, okay? Sure there are lazy admins but once the policy is there are no phones, they won’t press the easy button that no longer exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

You keep making up problems just to justify your kid having electronic apron strings.

This isn’t made up, you just don’t want to admit that cell phones fill a need in modern society. Why can’t you admit that? How about you and your kids try going without one!

You must be a millennial parent if your imagination of how a school can function without every student having a constant digital tether is so limited.

Speaking of that, though, doesn’t every student have a school issues laptop or tablet, with email and notifications? That they use in most classes? So for school sanctioned messages, they could be notified on that by front office. People keep crowing how it will be used for social media, but it definitely has communication utility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love all the furor and exchanges on this topic before; but now that the policy has been voted on, the outrage seems to have evaporated.

Not in APS but a different local district and we see how implementation happened. It’s all a joke. This will be too. Read the thread on cheating in HS. It’s all for show and just encourages more burner phones. These bans never work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know APE wants to take credit for it but school board listened to the teachers. Teachers wanted bell to bell and they got it.

The minority of needy parents blaming APE parenrs of little kids is nuts to me.

- Consistent and overwhelming scientific evidence
- all the APS teachers who are seeing the impact on kids in schools
- most major public educational systems across the country
- all of the top private schools
- me, non APE parent of a HS er.

+1
but they all refuse to believe any of us when we say we're not APE; so you're only down to a mere 4 credible examples

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

And your kid doesn't know they need medication, so they can't ask about it? Or, you can't wait for them to call your child to the office to ensure they're aware?

lol this is how you think high schools work? This is driven by naive parents of younger kids.

I'm the parent of a high school graduate and a high school senior. So, please explain to me how high schools work.

[Anonymous]

Why would a parent need to text a kid everyday? What cants wait until the bell? Come on

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

And your kid doesn't know they need medication, so they can't ask about it? Or, you can't wait for them to call your child to the office to ensure they're aware?

Ask who? How? If they had their phone they could ask me if I dropped it off and where but how do you want this to happen now that ppl like you took this away.

And you think high schools call kids to the offuce? Hahaha you are clueless. Tell me how that works during lunch please - how do they know where my kid is? Who do they call?

This isn’t elementary school. Last time this happened the school told me to text my child!!!

1. Student to teacher: I'm supposed to have medication. My mom is going to drop it off (I know this because she told me so). Can I check at the office to see if she's dropped it off?

2. High schools ABSOLUTELY call students to the office.
3. They know where your kid is by looking at their schedule. If they are at lunch, they can help you locate them - they aren't wandering the building anymore (at least at our high school) and if they are a senior and leave campus for lunch, or you can't locate them, you can leave the medication and the message with the office or they will likely tell you take it to the clinic. The clinic staff will then contact your student.

Just how often are you dropping off medication, anyway? Sounds like a YOU problem, not a lack of phone problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

And your kid doesn't know they need medication, so they can't ask about it? Or, you can't wait for them to call your child to the office to ensure they're aware?

Ask who? How? If they had their phone they could ask me if I dropped it off and where but how do you want this to happen now that ppl like you took this away.

And you think high schools call kids to the offuce? Hahaha you are clueless. Tell me how that works during lunch please - how do they know where my kid is? Who do they call?

This isn’t elementary school. Last time this happened the school told me to text my child!!!

1. Student to teacher: I'm supposed to have medication. My mom is going to drop it off (I know this because she told me so). Can I check at the office to see if she's dropped it off?

2. High schools ABSOLUTELY call students to the office.
3. They know where your kid is by looking at their schedule. If they are at lunch, they can help you locate them - they aren't wandering the building anymore (at least at our high school) and if they are a senior and leave campus for lunch, or you can't locate them, you can leave the medication and the message with the office or they will likely tell you take it to the clinic. The clinic staff will then contact your student.

Just how often are you dropping off medication, anyway? Sounds like a YOU problem, not a lack of phone problem.

PS: For most medications, you can't just give them to your student to carry around with them at school anyway - they need to be held by the nurse in the clinic. So, again, tell me how high schools work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know APE wants to take credit for it but school board listened to the teachers. Teachers wanted bell to bell and they got it.

The minority of needy parents blaming APE parenrs of little kids is nuts to me.

- Consistent and overwhelming scientific evidence
- all the APS teachers who are seeing the impact on kids in schools
- most major public educational systems across the country
- all of the top private schools
- me, non APE parent of a HS ner.

What do you think this policy is going to solve exactly?

All those Wakefield teachers say there are fewer disruptions in class, kids are interacting more, engaging in class more. Probably one of the best things APS has done in years

+100!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love all the furor and exchanges on this topic before; but now that the policy has been voted on, the outrage seems to have evaporated.

Not in APS but a different local district and we see how implementation happened. It’s all a joke. This will be too. Read the thread on cheating in HS. It’s all for show and just encourages more burner phones. These bans never work.

It's already been implemented via pilot programs in APS. Yes, lots of kids have not been/are not putting their real phones into the pouches. But they also are not getting their real phones out and using them, and when someone does actually brazenly do so, the rule is actually much more effectively enforced and the stuent puts it way or is sent to the office. This is the experience and eyewitness testimony of my student.

A policy doesn't have to actually be conducted 100% the way it's supposed to in order for the ban itself to "work." If phones aren't out anymore and are not causing disruptions - even if it has minimized distractions - the ban WORKS.

[Anonymous]

My impression is that there is only one, maybe two, people on here complaining or insisting bans don't work or aren't "fair" or are disruptive to their personal needs. To that person or two: even in this small chat you are the minority opinion. Get over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

And your kid doesn't know they need medication, so they can't ask about it? Or, you can't wait for them to call your child to the office to ensure they're aware?

Ask who? How? If they had their phone they could ask me if I dropped it off and where but how do you want this to happen now that ppl like you took this away.

And you think high schools call kids to the offuce? Hahaha you are clueless. Tell me how that works during lunch please - how do they know where my kid is? Who do they call?

This isn’t elementary school. Last time this happened the school told me to text my child!!!

I’m assuming the medication is not a 911 situation, so they would wait until after lunch, look up their schedule and call her next class to have her come to the office. This is a time tested solution.

Again, they could stop by the office every other period to see if you dropped it off if you doubt the school. The bother of having to do this will be a natural consequence to help them not forgot medicine in the future.

As for them telling you to text your child, okay? Sure there are lazy admins but once the policy is there are no phones, they won’t press the easy button that no longer exists.

except this is not what happens in busy school offices. You really think the office staff has time for this??? please. You clearly know zip about how schools actually work!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My impression is that there is only one, maybe two, people on here complaining or insisting bans don't work or aren't "fair" or are disruptive to their personal needs. To that person or two: even in this small chat you are the minority opinion. Get over it.

Sorry no, it's the loud minority who pushed this ban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love all the furor and exchanges on this topic before; but now that the policy has been voted on, the outrage seems to have evaporated.

Not in APS but a different local district and we see how implementation happened. It’s all a joke. This will be too. Read the thread on cheating in HS. It’s all for show and just encourages more burner phones. These bans never work.

It's already been implemented via pilot programs in APS. Yes, lots of kids have not been/are not putting their real phones into the pouches. But they also are not getting their real phones out and using them, and when someone does actually brazenly do so, the rule is actually much more effectively enforced and the stuent puts it way or is sent to the office. This is the experience and eyewitness testimony of my student.

A policy doesn't have to actually be conducted 100% the way it's supposed to in order for the ban itself to "work." If phones aren't out anymore and are not causing disruptions - even if it has minimized distractions - the ban WORKS.

The same thing is happening in APS. This is just for show to appease the loud APEs.

And to say they did something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The APEs still have little kids. Wait til their kids get older and get to high school and they realize what they don't know now. Kids in high school can't just whip out their ipad to do what phones can because oops they don't have one. And practice changed but coach can't get a message to them in high school and front office sure isn't going to deliver it.

And also wait til they see this policy won't do anything because all the things they complain about with phones are being done on APS ipads.

I look forward to their outrage, but they will just have themselves to blame.

What are you even talking about? Yes iPads can do a lot of things iPhones can, but it’s way harder to sneak it in the back row of a classroom in your lap.

Most iPads will be school issued and limit social media; if they don’t that’s an IT problem not a policy problem.

Practice changed! The horror! They won’t find out till the end of the day, when they actually need to know rather than in 2nd period algebra. Your examples don’t even make sense.

My kids are in high school, and we have friends at privates where phones are banned all day.

Wait til you have to drop off medication for your kid but they never are given the message.

And your kid doesn't know they need medication, so they can't ask about it? Or, you can't wait for them to call your child to the office to ensure they're aware?

Ask who? How? If they had their phone they could ask me if I dropped it off and where but how do you want this to happen now that ppl like you took this away.

And you think high schools call kids to the offuce? Hahaha you are clueless. Tell me how that works during lunch please - how do they know where my kid is? Who do they call?

This isn’t elementary school. Last time this happened the school told me to text my child!!!

1. Student to teacher: I'm supposed to have medication. My mom is going to drop it off (I know this because she told me so). Can I check at the office to see if she's dropped it off?

2. High schools ABSOLUTELY call students to the office.
3. They know where your kid is by looking at their schedule. If they are at lunch, they can help you locate them - they aren't wandering the building anymore (at least at our high school) and if they are a senior and leave campus for lunch, or you can't locate them, you can leave the medication and the message with the office or they will likely tell you take it to the clinic. The clinic staff will then contact your student.

Just how often are you dropping off medication, anyway? Sounds like a YOU problem, not a lack of phone problem.

PS: For most medications, you can't just give them to your student to carry around with them at school anyway - they need to be held by the nurse in the clinic. So, again, tell me how high schools work.

No you are completely wrong. Again this is telling that you have zero idea how things work for older kids.