DOGE ... Elon and Vivek ... and results by 2026

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ironic they plan to decrease federal workforce by starting a new agency.

it's not a new government agency. Guessing the funding isn't coming from government. So maybe someone with a X account can ask him directly where he funding to run DOGE is coming from.

Pretty sure then that they can't access....oh....records or data to figure out what's wasteful. It's just another garbage "report" to keep E/V busy, since Elon seems to want to pretend play that's he's actually the president.

Why not?
Nearly everything they need is accessible through FOIA.
Not to mention, there is basically no federal law preventing the President or agency head from voluntarily disclosing anything at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ironic they plan to decrease federal workforce by starting a new agency.

it's not a new government agency. Guessing the funding isn't coming from government. So maybe someone with a X account can ask him directly where he funding to run DOGE is coming from.

Pretty sure then that they can't access....oh....records or data to figure out what's wasteful. It's just another garbage "report" to keep E/V busy, since Elon seems to want to pretend play that's he's actually the president.

Why not?
Nearly everything they need is accessible through FOIA.
Not to mention, there is basically no federal law preventing the President or agency head from voluntarily disclosing anything at all.

There actually are laws preventing this. Whether Trump wants to follow them or not is up to him and given his immunity, I'm sure he'll push all the limits he can. However, on the PII information, there is definitely a limit on what can be shared with people without proper clearances or a need for the data.

[Anonymous]

I guess we will see. Saw this on X last night:

• The CBO revealed at least 1,264 federal programs and bureaus have expired authorizations, but they still received $516B in funding for FY2024

• The Government Accountability Office estimates the federal government wastes $247B in taxpayer money each year

• The Department of the Treasury reported $24.5B in "unreconciled transactions" in the past meaning it spent ~$25B on unknown items

• Department of Agriculture employees misused government issued credit cards spending millions on personal purchases like concert tickets, tattoos, lingerie and car payments

• $33.2M was spent on transgender monkey research

• The NIH spent part of a $2.7M grant to study Russian cats walking on a treadmill

• The DoD ruined $170M of military equipment by leaving it outside

• The US Agency for International Development spent $6M to promote tourism in Egypt

• The SBA gave over $200M to music artists like Post Malone, Chris Brown and Lil Wayne through the Covid Paycheck Protection Program

• The US military bought soap dispensers for aircraft at over 80 times the commercial price

[Anonymous]

Will they be revisiting who received forgiven business “loans” during COVID?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty simple for him to reduce the federal work force by 10% just by not recommending any annual pay increases for the next four years.

Obama gave almost no raises.

That was during a period with almost no inflation despite prolonged low interest rates. Times have changed dramatically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ironic they plan to decrease federal workforce by starting a new agency.

This new agency is so efficient they selected 2 people to run it!

Get an original line—Elizabeth Warren already made headlines with this witty retort.
But my guess is that Elon will provide the data support mechanism and Vivek will do the analysis and implementation.

My guess is he selected 2 people neither of whom is known for teamwork to pit them against each other. Classic narcissist move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess we will see. Saw this on X last night:

• The CBO revealed at least 1,264 federal programs and bureaus have expired authorizations, but they still received $516B in funding for FY2024

• The Government Accountability Office estimates the federal government wastes $247B in taxpayer money each year

• The Department of the Treasury reported $24.5B in "unreconciled transactions" in the past meaning it spent ~$25B on unknown items

• Department of Agriculture employees misused government issued credit cards spending millions on personal purchases like concert tickets, tattoos, lingerie and car payments

• $33.2M was spent on transgender monkey research

• The NIH spent part of a $2.7M grant to study Russian cats walking on a treadmill

• The DoD ruined $170M of military equipment by leaving it outside

• The US Agency for International Development spent $6M to promote tourism in Egypt

• The SBA gave over $200M to music artists like Post Malone, Chris Brown and Lil Wayne through the Covid Paycheck Protection Program

• The US military bought soap dispensers for aircraft at over 80 times the commercial price

You saw it on X! That’s better than seeing it in person.

How about original sources?

[Anonymous]

We don't trust out institutions anymore, but we do trust Elonia and X!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty simple for him to reduce the federal work force by 10% just by not recommending any annual pay increases for the next four years.

I think agency leads figure out a way to keep top performers in this scenario. This isn't the first presidency to halt pay increases. ESo, sure a certain percentage will leave (certainly I think a lot of attorneys, esp in finreg space) but there are so many Feds in the GS 14 and under and so many superfluous positions even in the finregs, where you wont see attrition because for these folks, getting a job in the private sector is a pretty hard threshold.

No pay increases for BOTH of Obama’s two terms.

Are we supposed to ignore the recession he inherited?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess we will see. Saw this on X last night:

• The CBO revealed at least 1,264 federal programs and bureaus have expired authorizations, but they still received $516B in funding for FY2024

• The Government Accountability Office estimates the federal government wastes $247B in taxpayer money each year

• The Department of the Treasury reported $24.5B in "unreconciled transactions" in the past meaning it spent ~$25B on unknown items

• Department of Agriculture employees misused government issued credit cards spending millions on personal purchases like concert tickets, tattoos, lingerie and car payments

• $33.2M was spent on transgender monkey research

• The NIH spent part of a $2.7M grant to study Russian cats walking on a treadmill

• The DoD ruined $170M of military equipment by leaving it outside

• The US Agency for International Development spent $6M to promote tourism in Egypt

• The SBA gave over $200M to music artists like Post Malone, Chris Brown and Lil Wayne through the Covid Paycheck Protection Program

• The US military bought soap dispensers for aircraft at over 80 times the commercial price

You saw this on X so it must be true. Could you tell us who owns X?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems like a joke to pump up Doge coin for a few yrs. It’ll result in them writing fancy reports which anyone can implement or not. Sure DJT will let them go after some low hanging fruit - programs no longer in existence but still funded etc - to show Maga how much he saved. But I don’t think this results in the massive - dump half the Feds - changes that Maga is cheering for that Feds obviously fear.

No Elon is going to mass fire government employee he has told us this believe them

Exactly. Everything coming out of the Trump administration should be considered true at all times, because there has been no prior evidence of lying or overblown promises from this group. Yes.

Lol you must be joking. Maybe they really really mean it but they aren't known for their competence. And federal government isn't like Elon showing up to his own company and firing 50% of people in two seconds.

But whatever either way is fine for many - we'll stay or go.

I am joking, yes. Not sure about PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ironic they plan to decrease federal workforce by starting a new agency.

it's not a new government agency. Guessing the funding isn't coming from government. So maybe someone with a X account can ask him directly where he funding to run DOGE is coming from.

Pretty sure then that they can't access....oh....records or data to figure out what's wasteful. It's just another garbage "report" to keep E/V busy, since Elon seems to want to pretend play that's he's actually the president.

Why not?
Nearly everything they need is accessible through FOIA.
Not to mention, there is basically no federal law preventing the President or agency head from voluntarily disclosing anything at all.

There actually are laws preventing this. Whether Trump wants to follow them or not is up to him and given his immunity, I'm sure he'll push all the limits he can. However, on the PII information, there is definitely a limit on what can be shared with people without proper clearances or a need for the data.

This, exactly. If they aren't going to divest and become government employees then they can't access useful data and they also cannot 'gift' the report. I'm sure they can act like a think tank or something and do some report with public info, but that's basically useless.

Odds are that Elonia and Vivek will start fighting within moments and nothing will happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess we will see. Saw this on X last night:

• The CBO revealed at least 1,264 federal programs and bureaus have expired authorizations, but they still received $516B in funding for FY2024

• The Government Accountability Office estimates the federal government wastes $247B in taxpayer money each year

• The Department of the Treasury reported $24.5B in "unreconciled transactions" in the past meaning it spent ~$25B on unknown items

• Department of Agriculture employees misused government issued credit cards spending millions on personal purchases like concert tickets, tattoos, lingerie and car payments

• $33.2M was spent on transgender monkey research

• The NIH spent part of a $2.7M grant to study Russian cats walking on a treadmill

• The DoD ruined $170M of military equipment by leaving it outside

• The US Agency for International Development spent $6M to promote tourism in Egypt

• The SBA gave over $200M to music artists like Post Malone, Chris Brown and Lil Wayne through the Covid Paycheck Protection Program

• The US military bought soap dispensers for aircraft at over 80 times the commercial price

This is playing out just like that charming scene with the President and his Cabinet in the movie Dave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess we will see. Saw this on X last night:

• The CBO revealed at least 1,264 federal programs and bureaus have expired authorizations, but they still received $516B in funding for FY2024

• The Government Accountability Office estimates the federal government wastes $247B in taxpayer money each year

• The Department of the Treasury reported $24.5B in "unreconciled transactions" in the past meaning it spent ~$25B on unknown items

• Department of Agriculture employees misused government issued credit cards spending millions on personal purchases like concert tickets, tattoos, lingerie and car payments

• $33.2M was spent on transgender monkey research

• The NIH spent part of a $2.7M grant to study Russian cats walking on a treadmill

• The DoD ruined $170M of military equipment by leaving it outside

• The US Agency for International Development spent $6M to promote tourism in Egypt

• The SBA gave over $200M to music artists like Post Malone, Chris Brown and Lil Wayne through the Covid Paycheck Protection Program

• The US military bought soap dispensers for aircraft at over 80 times the commercial price

You saw this on X so it must be true. Could you tell us who owns X?

One of the biggest programs with an expired authorization is Veterans Health. Look forward to seeing that zeroed out.

Folks, someone's waste is another person's income. It's just really hard to cut spending. A program is funded, an interest group is forever established.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess we will see. Saw this on X last night:

• The CBO revealed at least 1,264 federal programs and bureaus have expired authorizations, but they still received $516B in funding for FY2024

• The Government Accountability Office estimates the federal government wastes $247B in taxpayer money each year

• The Department of the Treasury reported $24.5B in "unreconciled transactions" in the past meaning it spent ~$25B on unknown items

• Department of Agriculture employees misused government issued credit cards spending millions on personal purchases like concert tickets, tattoos, lingerie and car payments

• $33.2M was spent on transgender monkey research

• The NIH spent part of a $2.7M grant to study Russian cats walking on a treadmill

• The DoD ruined $170M of military equipment by leaving it outside

• The US Agency for International Development spent $6M to promote tourism in Egypt

• The SBA gave over $200M to music artists like Post Malone, Chris Brown and Lil Wayne through the Covid Paycheck Protection Program

• The US military bought soap dispensers for aircraft at over 80 times the commercial price

Ok I just looked up a few of these allegations and I’m only seeing 200k on transgender monkey research (which I actually agree is cruel based on what I read online, but is nowhere near 33M).

Not sure if the musicians used the SBA loans to (hopefully) pay venue workers during shut downs, but also it was during Trump that we had PPP loans and I’m guessing there are some Republican pockets that took part in applying for money.

Re: the NIH Russia funding, it was Biden who cut that off.

If you want to more closely monitor funding for DOD military equipment great. I don’t know many dems who would object to less funding there.

The Dept of Agriculture credit card fraud literally dates back to 2003. Why are we citing a few employees’ misconduct (which was caught) under the Bush Administration as a basis for creating a Billionaire shadow government in 2025?