Do Michelle Obama and Beyonce advance Kamala at all?

[Anonymous]

The trumpers won't vote for Harris and are going to vote for Trump and that includes a lot of men. But there are many millions of men that will vote for Harris.

[Anonymous]

Obama once said that progress is not a straight line. So no, they did not move the needle. The “zag” is coming and they know this. After 4 years, maybe we get back to the “zig”.

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Anonymous wrote:No don’t help at all, other than to give Kamala a feel good moment that 30K people have come out to be part of her rally.

They are doing a lot more than coming out to be part of a rally. They are voting.

+1.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

I was predicting a Harris victory right up until I saw Trump go on Andrew Schulz’ YouTube show. Trump would have needed a lot of convincing to do it as it was way out of his comfort zone, but it was a politically brilliant move in shoring up support among young white male voters. Likewise with Rogan. Trump beat Hillary in 2016 by running a more innovative, data-driven campaign. If he beats Kamala this time around, it will be at least partly because he was smarter in using new media to his advantage.

Yeah, the new pro-porn ad from Harris is just so bad. I thought it was fake. It’s not. So you have Trump on Joe Rogan, and Harris with absolutely creepy pro-porn ads, and idk who is running the Harris campaign but that is bad.

DP. What is this ad? Can you post it?

The porn industry loves Harris. DP here but they’re probably referring to this and similar others:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14001939/amp/Democrat-pro-porn-ad-republican-ban.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think not. What are the demographics where she's slipping? Not the ones where Michelle and Beyonce add value.

I worry the campaign does not understand where help is needed.

Interesting. I worried the campaign does not understand where help is needed when Kamala is campaigning alongside Cheney and boasts about other GOP endorsements.

Aligning herself with the Cheneys of the world is not what I want her to do. I’m a borderline Stein voter.

Question: does she risk more in the middle or with what should be her base (progressive left)?

I worry if she looses rhe Democrats will believe it’s because she’s not moderate enough. I strong believe this is not the case.

What is the appeal of Trump - he’s not moderate at all.

[Anonymous]

AA turnout is way down but I don't think these two add any value. As rich celebs, they're unrelatable to the AA working class voters currently staying home.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

I was predicting a Harris victory right up until I saw Trump go on Andrew Schulz’ YouTube show. Trump would have needed a lot of convincing to do it as it was way out of his comfort zone, but it was a politically brilliant move in shoring up support among young white male voters. Likewise with Rogan. Trump beat Hillary in 2016 by running a more innovative, data-driven campaign. If he beats Kamala this time around, it will be at least partly because he was smarter in using new media to his advantage.

Yeah, the new pro-porn ad from Harris is just so bad. I thought it was fake. It’s not. So you have Trump on Joe Rogan, and Harris with absolutely creepy pro-porn ads, and idk who is running the Harris campaign but that is bad.

DP. What is this ad? Can you post it?

The porn industry loves Harris. DP here but they’re probably referring to this and similar others:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14001939/amp/Democrat-pro-porn-ad-republican-ban.html

Oh that is so stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

I was predicting a Harris victory right up until I saw Trump go on Andrew Schulz’ YouTube show. Trump would have needed a lot of convincing to do it as it was way out of his comfort zone, but it was a politically brilliant move in shoring up support among young white male voters. Likewise with Rogan. Trump beat Hillary in 2016 by running a more innovative, data-driven campaign. If he beats Kamala this time around, it will be at least partly because he was smarter in using new media to his advantage.

Yeah, the new pro-porn ad from Harris is just so bad. I thought it was fake. It’s not. So you have Trump on Joe Rogan, and Harris with absolutely creepy pro-porn ads, and idk who is running the Harris campaign but that is bad.

DP. What is this ad? Can you post it?

The porn industry loves Harris. DP here but they’re probably referring to this and similar others:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14001939/amp/Democrat-pro-porn-ad-republican-ban.html

Oh that is so stupid.

Agree. I see there is a thread about it:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1235754.page

[Anonymous]

I think Michelle and Beyoncé do help. If anyone is on the fence or simply thinking of not voting, they may tune in because they want to hear Michelle or Beyoncé, and then maybe they are moved by a compelling argument they hear. Maybe a Muslim woman who is angry at the Biden administration — who right now wants to sit this election out — maybe Michelle opened her eyes to the broader threat of Trump, and maybe she will now vote for Kamala. (Inshallah!)

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

I was predicting a Harris victory right up until I saw Trump go on Andrew Schulz’ YouTube show. Trump would have needed a lot of convincing to do it as it was way out of his comfort zone, but it was a politically brilliant move in shoring up support among young white male voters. Likewise with Rogan. Trump beat Hillary in 2016 by running a more innovative, data-driven campaign. If he beats Kamala this time around, it will be at least partly because he was smarter in using new media to his advantage.

You’re not mentioning podcast appearances or the Fox appearance by Harris.

Very one sided comment from you.

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Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree with OP

Me too.

Wow, that’s thrilling and so persuasive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Michelle and Beyoncé do help. If anyone is on the fence or simply thinking of not voting, they may tune in because they want to hear Michelle or Beyoncé, and then maybe they are moved by a compelling argument they hear. Maybe a Muslim woman who is angry at the Biden administration — who right now wants to sit this election out — maybe Michelle opened her eyes to the broader threat of Trump, and maybe she will now vote for Kamala. (Inshallah!)

Good luck with that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Joe Rogan >>>>>> Beyoncé, Michelle

Long format informative discussion > celebrity

Haha. What’s the informative discussion? When Trump talked about life on Mars? When he admitted he chose “whack job” people for his administration?

Sure. A dementia patient blathering for three hours means more people will vote him. You are brilliant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Joe Rogan >>>>>> Beyoncé, Michelle

Long format informative discussion > celebrity

Haha. What’s the informative discussion? When Trump talked about life on Mars? When he admitted he chose “whack job” people for his administration?

Sure. A dementia patient blathering for three hours means more people will vote him. You are brilliant.

Watching a train wreck does not mean you will vote for train wrecks. Trump's ability to do the job of president was never strong and now it seems to be gone.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

Among working class black and Hispanic men. Michelle Obama and Beyoncé are not going to help her

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I just saw a pretty devastating long form ad that laid out the case for why men aren't voting for her. It stated explicitly that men would vote for a woman but not her.

Let's face it the DNC screwed up again by not telling Biden a year ago that he could not run, held a real primary, and gotten an acceptable candidate. If this had been done there is no way Harris would be the candidate and Walz the VP candidate. Why does the DNC not learn its lesson?