Do Michelle Obama and Beyonce advance Kamala at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

Among working class black and Hispanic men. Michelle Obama and Beyoncé are not going to help her

[Anonymous]

Going into the home stretch with a heavy dose of celebrities is not helpful. She needs to reach working and middle class whites. She needs to give cynical and mistrustful young people a reason to vote for her. She needs to shore up support among black men. She needs to make socially conservative folks - Hispanics in particular - comfortable voting for a progressive woman from Oakland.

Beyonce is not bringing you those people.

Harris' problem is that she seems out of touch with the concerns of everyday Americans. And the fact that she was anointed by the party elite and never had to stand before primary voters is not helping. The last thing Harris needs is celebrities. Trump is running a much more savvy campaign. He knows which podcasts matter to the audiences that count in this election. His ads are on point when it comes to reaching socially conservative folks. It's direct, guerrilla campaigning to the people he needs on the issues that emotionally resonate with them. It's not smooth. It's not perfect. It's not rigidly professional. But it gets the job done.

Meanwhile, the Harris campaign is lost in their safe, corporate, detached, market-tested, cold drivel. As always, every Democratic campaign professional needs to be fired and barred from politics forever. An absolutely useless class of lackeys and parasites. Who the F thought Beyonce would be a good idea. Probably the same people that thought Oprah was a great idea too. Idiots.

[Anonymous]

I agree 😣

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

Among working class black and Hispanic men. Michelle Obama and Beyoncé are not going to help her

+1
I just saw a pretty devastating long form ad that laid out the case for why men aren't voting for her. It stated explicitly that men would vote for a woman but not her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Michelle Obama and Beyoncé are there to change anyone’s mind about who to vote for. They’re there to keep the base energized and motivated and get as many supporters to show up and vote as possible. If Harris is lagging with some demographics, she’ll need really high turnout from the groups who are most enthusiastic about her. She’s not taking anyone’s vote for granted.

Black voter turnout is down in Georgia and North Carolina in early voting. There doesn’t seem to be any enthusiasm for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The whole point of these rallies are to attract and motivate volunteers, get sound bites for social media and energy in each of the states/cities where they take place.

Harris has 15,000-30,000 people at her rallies, there is a lot of excitement and energy. Trump has a few thousand up to 8-10k depending on the venue, but there is no energy, and it is generally just him and perhaps some local candidates with a very low energy aura.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going into the home stretch with a heavy dose of celebrities is not helpful. She needs to reach working and middle class whites. She needs to give cynical and mistrustful young people a reason to vote for her. She needs to shore up support among black men. She needs to make socially conservative folks - Hispanics in particular - comfortable voting for a progressive woman from Oakland.

Beyonce is not bringing you those people.

Harris' problem is that she seems out of touch with the concerns of everyday Americans. And the fact that she was anointed by the party elite and never had to stand before primary voters is not helping. The last thing Harris needs is celebrities. Trump is running a much more savvy campaign. He knows which podcasts matter to the audiences that count in this election. His ads are on point when it comes to reaching socially conservative folks. It's direct, guerrilla campaigning to the people he needs on the issues that emotionally resonate with them. It's not smooth. It's not perfect. It's not rigidly professional. But it gets the job done.

Meanwhile, the Harris campaign is lost in their safe, corporate, detached, market-tested, cold drivel. As always, every Democratic campaign professional needs to be fired and barred from politics forever. An absolutely useless class of lackeys and parasites. Who the F thought Beyonce would be a good idea. Probably the same people that thought Oprah was a great idea too. Idiots.

So much delusion here.

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Michelle is stunning. She and Kamala are 2 intelligent and talented women who need to be running this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Michelle Obama and Beyoncé are there to change anyone’s mind about who to vote for. They’re there to keep the base energized and motivated and get as many supporters to show up and vote as possible. If Harris is lagging with some demographics, she’ll need really high turnout from the groups who are most enthusiastic about her. She’s not taking anyone’s vote for granted.

Black voter turnout is down in Georgia and North Carolina in early voting. There doesn’t seem to be any enthusiasm for her.

Look who is getting out there in georgia to vote as soon as they can:

As of yesterday....

Female 55.7%
Male 44.1%


There does seem to be some enthusiasm for getting out there early to vote.

[Anonymous]

No don’t help at all, other than to give Kamala a feel good moment that 30K people have come out to be part of her rally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No don’t help at all, other than to give Kamala a feel good moment that 30K people have come out to be part of her rally.

They are doing a lot more than coming out to be part of a rally. They are voting.

[Anonymous]

Joe Rogan >>>>>> Beyoncé, Michelle

Long format informative discussion > celebrity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going into the home stretch with a heavy dose of celebrities is not helpful. She needs to reach working and middle class whites. She needs to give cynical and mistrustful young people a reason to vote for her. She needs to shore up support among black men. She needs to make socially conservative folks - Hispanics in particular - comfortable voting for a progressive woman from Oakland.

Beyonce is not bringing you those people.

Harris' problem is that she seems out of touch with the concerns of everyday Americans. And the fact that she was anointed by the party elite and never had to stand before primary voters is not helping. The last thing Harris needs is celebrities. Trump is running a much more savvy campaign. He knows which podcasts matter to the audiences that count in this election. His ads are on point when it comes to reaching socially conservative folks. It's direct, guerrilla campaigning to the people he needs on the issues that emotionally resonate with them. It's not smooth. It's not perfect. It's not rigidly professional. But it gets the job done.

Meanwhile, the Harris campaign is lost in their safe, corporate, detached, market-tested, cold drivel. As always, every Democratic campaign professional needs to be fired and barred from politics forever. An absolutely useless class of lackeys and parasites. Who the F thought Beyonce would be a good idea. Probably the same people that thought Oprah was a great idea too. Idiots.

You have to give it to Trump

He gets the pulse of the people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No don’t help at all, other than to give Kamala a feel good moment that 30K people have come out to be part of her rally.

They are doing a lot more than coming out to be part of a rally. They are voting.

The ladies are voting and they are bringing as many of their friends and family along with them as they can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

Among working class black and Hispanic men. Michelle Obama and Beyoncé are not going to help her

+1
I just saw a pretty devastating long form ad that laid out the case for why men aren't voting for her. It stated explicitly that men would vote for a woman but not her.

I'm sure these men said the same thing about Hillary in 2016. So they will vote for a hypothetical woman but not the one who is actually running.