Do Michelle Obama and Beyonce advance Kamala at all?

[Anonymous]

Michelle Obama’s speech was just what many of us needed to hear.

So, Harris voters, and those that don’t want a fascist dictator,’ don’t listen to this crap.

Don’t doubt - VOTE.

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Anonymous wrote:No don’t help at all, other than to give Kamala a feel good moment that 30K people have come out to be part of her rally.

They are doing a lot more than coming out to be part of a rally. They are voting.

The ladies are voting and they are bringing as many of their friends and family along with them as they can.

Right, they're loading up the car with all their friends and family, down to the polls. Because they all live in the same polling place.

What a load of bunk. Do these people know any real women? I work in a place full of women, and if I said: hey, ladies!! What an important election! We have to vote! Let’s get in my car and drive to the polls and all vote! Together!!

The response from women would be that I am a f-g weirdo, trying to get a group together to go vote when I decide everyone needs to vote. No adult woman needs a voting co-ordinator to hold her hand and drive her to the polls. No adult women want to be pressured into voting for any candidate with a group of coworkers or family members. It’s ridiculous.

And you are right; people don’t all vote in the same place. Democrats have fantasies a la Leslie Knope of large groups of women wearing matching shirts and giggling and voting together in sisterhood. 🤡 Probably with HANDS OFF MY UTERUS and DUMP TRUMP written on the car windows, a Kamala flag flying, blasting Bruce Springsteen Born in the USA or Beyonce.

I would rather joyless Chinese communists invade and run America than any horde of democratic girl squad group voters. Cringe af.

You clearly don't live in my neighborhood (suburb of Chicago.) The local ladies club has a permanent fixture in front of my towns polling place consisting of 50ish women with Mrs Slocom hair in lawn chairs holding signs just like you described. Someone should tell them that they aren't helping their cause because absolutely no one is going to want to join them with those optics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

Among working class black and Hispanic men. Michelle Obama and Beyoncé are not going to help her

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I just saw a pretty devastating long form ad that laid out the case for why men aren't voting for her. It stated explicitly that men would vote for a woman but not her.

Oh sure, a woman is fine - but not Hillary, obviously. Oh and obviously it can't be Harris. But sure yes of course we're open to voting for a woman! Just find us a different woman - then we can say why she's not the one, too.

Well to be fair, the voters did try to tell the DNC in 2019 that they didnt want her since she dropped out due to lack of support. She has done nothing and accomplished nothing while VP (like most VPs), so if nothing has changed why would people suddenly like her?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

Among working class black and Hispanic men. Michelle Obama and Beyoncé are not going to help her

+1
I just saw a pretty devastating long form ad that laid out the case for why men aren't voting for her. It stated explicitly that men would vote for a woman but not her.

Oh sure, a woman is fine - but not Hillary, obviously. Oh and obviously it can't be Harris. But sure yes of course we're open to voting for a woman! Just find us a different woman - then we can say why she's not the one, too.

Well to be fair, the voters did try to tell the DNC in 2019 that they didnt want her since she dropped out due to lack of support. She has done nothing and accomplished nothing while VP (like most VPs), so if nothing has changed why would people suddenly like her?

Did you know that Biden threw his hat in the ring a whole bunch of times before securing the nomination?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think not. What are the demographics where she's slipping? Not the ones where Michelle and Beyonce add value.

I worry the campaign does not understand where help is needed.

I think they are there to motivate the base to vote. Not to attract new voters.

Definitely not the way to gain the votes of white males, and I greatly admire Michelle Obama.

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Anonymous wrote:No don’t help at all, other than to give Kamala a feel good moment that 30K people have come out to be part of her rally.

They are doing a lot more than coming out to be part of a rally. They are voting.

The ladies are voting and they are bringing as many of their friends and family along with them as they can.

Right, they're loading up the car with all their friends and family, down to the polls. Because they all live in the same polling place.

What a load of bunk. Do these people know any real women? I work in a place full of women, and if I said: hey, ladies!! What an important election! We have to vote! Let’s get in my car and drive to the polls and all vote! Together!!

The response from women would be that I am a f-g weirdo, trying to get a group together to go vote when I decide everyone needs to vote. No adult woman needs a voting co-ordinator to hold her hand and drive her to the polls. No adult women want to be pressured into voting for any candidate with a group of coworkers or family members. It’s ridiculous.

And you are right; people don’t all vote in the same place. Democrats have fantasies a la Leslie Knope of large groups of women wearing matching shirts and giggling and voting together in sisterhood. 🤡 Probably with HANDS OFF MY UTERUS and DUMP TRUMP written on the car windows, a Kamala flag flying, blasting Bruce Springsteen Born in the USA or Beyonce.

I would rather joyless Chinese communists invade and run America than any horde of democratic girl squad group voters. Cringe af.

What a ridiculous ignorant screed. People are busy. People are overwhelmed. Getting out the vote involves inserting yourself into that chaos and making sure that people are focused on getting their vote counted. It has nothing to do with getting some group in a car and all going to the polls together.

I'll ask again. Would you help someone who is a trump supporter? Or do you only help those if they are going to vote the way you want them to?

I'll wait. (But we all know the answer.)

NP. Would I go out of my way to invite a Trump supporter? Nope. If I had room in my car and Trump supporter asked for a ride? Yes I would. It’s my neighbor, or coworker or whatever. I presumably have some connection to them. And that connection will remain long after Trump eats his last Big Mac.

And I would do it politely, kindly and cheerfully. As my very Catholic mother would say, I’d offer it up.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think not. What are the demographics where she's slipping? Not the ones where Michelle and Beyonce add value.

I worry the campaign does not understand where help is needed.

I think they are there to motivate the base to vote. Not to attract new voters.

Definitely not the way to gain the votes of white males, and I greatly admire Michelle Obama.

What’s not to motivate white men? Can they not vote for anyone who doesn’t look like them? Not be inspired by someone who doesn’t look like them? What a weird thing to say.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think not. What are the demographics where she's slipping? Not the ones where Michelle and Beyonce add value.

I worry the campaign does not understand where help is needed.

I think they are there to motivate the base to vote. Not to attract new voters.

Definitely not the way to gain the votes of white males, and I greatly admire Michelle Obama.

What’s not to motivate white men? Can they not vote for anyone who doesn’t look like them? Not be inspired by someone who doesn’t look like them? What a weird thing to say.

This. I know many, many white males who are very inspired to vote for Harris.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think not. What are the demographics where she's slipping? Not the ones where Michelle and Beyonce add value.

I worry the campaign does not understand where help is needed.

I think they are there to motivate the base to vote. Not to attract new voters.

Definitely not the way to gain the votes of white males, and I greatly admire Michelle Obama.

What’s not to motivate white men? Can they not vote for anyone who doesn’t look like them? Not be inspired by someone who doesn’t look like them? What a weird thing to say.

This. I know many, many white males who are very inspired to vote for Harris.

White guys for Harris! Hopefully they can convince their wives boyfriends to vote for Harris as well.

[Anonymous]

Isn’t Beyoncé in hot water herself?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience in campaign strategy?

Do you think Michelle Obama and Beyonce Carter do not understand persuasion?

OP here - I have no experience, just a regular joe. That said, it seems pretty obvious where Harris is lagging demographically.

Among working class black and Hispanic men. Michelle Obama and Beyoncé are not going to help her

+1
I just saw a pretty devastating long form ad that laid out the case for why men aren't voting for her. It stated explicitly that men would vote for a woman but not her.

Oh sure, a woman is fine - but not Hillary, obviously. Oh and obviously it can't be Harris. But sure yes of course we're open to voting for a woman! Just find us a different woman - then we can say why she's not the one, too.

Well to be fair, the voters did try to tell the DNC in 2019 that they didnt want her since she dropped out due to lack of support. She has done nothing and accomplished nothing while VP (like most VPs), so if nothing has changed why would people suddenly like her?

Did you know that Biden threw his hat in the ring a whole bunch of times before securing the nomination?

Did you know Biden didn't get elected until the voters indicated in a primary that they wanted him? It's not surprising that she may lose. She was not chosen by voters. She was selected and most of her support comes from not being Trump, not because voters actually want her. It isn't misogyny. Its her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think not. What are the demographics where she's slipping? Not the ones where Michelle and Beyonce add value.

I worry the campaign does not understand where help is needed.

I think they are there to motivate the base to vote. Not to attract new voters.

Definitely not the way to gain the votes of white males, and I greatly admire Michelle Obama.

What’s not to motivate white men? Can they not vote for anyone who doesn’t look like them? Not be inspired by someone who doesn’t look like them? What a weird thing to say.

PP here. If you think Beyonce stating she's there as a mother and Michelle's speech (which was excellent) would be the way to motivate most undecided white men, I don't know what to say.

[Anonymous]

I laughed at Beyonce saying she’s there as a mother in front of a big reproductive freedom banner. Irony probably didn’t hit the both of them. I don’t think Beyonce and Kamala can change a light bulb or answer questions in a long form interview without stuttering or glitching.

[Anonymous]

As for MO, she’s starting to lose her luster as well along with her husband. The arrogance and talking down to Americans esp black Americans is starting to get obvious. They’re in for a rude awakening on Nov 5 when a quarter of the black electorate shifts to Trump. The Obamas are not the king and queen of black America to bring on stage every four years

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Anonymous wrote:I laughed at Beyonce saying she’s there as a mother in front of a big reproductive freedom banner. Irony probably didn’t hit the both of them. I don’t think Beyonce and Kamala can change a light bulb or answer questions in a long form interview without stuttering or glitching.

Oh and Trump and his desire to be a whale psychiatrist and his fondness for Hannibal Lechter is inspiring to you? Anyone who picks the felon over the prosecutor has a screw loose.