If we defeat Trump, can we get the normal Republican party back please? Which Republicans have stood up to him?

[Anonymous]

Win or lose, the old Republican Party is not coming back. No obvious leaders and more importantly very few followers for that old party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think if Trump loses this year and if he doesn't die in the next 4 years that he will run again.

Or that he will be succeeded by DeSantis or similar and not by one of the anti-Trump Republicans.

The problem is in the electorate. Trump's maga supporters won't switch to a Romney-esque republican. And there are a lot of them and they are fervent and politically active.

I don't know what the solution is. I anticipate that it may take decades to evolve past this specific problem in US politics and that it may take significant upheaval to do it.

+1. I think the person who suggested a Whig -> Republican transition for the modern era is probably a best case scenario. And there was a civil war back then even with a new party.

[Anonymous]

The party is gone. What would a new party stand for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had been a lifelong Republican, but I've voted Democrat the last 2 presidential elections, since Trump was nominee. And I will vote for Harris this time.

I miss the normal Republican party - not this cult party we have now with a man of zero character and leadership remaking it in his own image. I know every politician spins and deflects to some extent, but Trump's incessant and compulsive lying is next level. His disrespect for the Constitution and America is disqualifying.

Which brave Republicans have risked being on Trump's retribution/enemies list to say "don't vote for this man" and that they are not voting for him? I want to remember and celebrate them.

The only way to get the normal Republican party back is if we defeat Trump (for the second time) definitively.

Who else wants the normal, sane, rational Republican party back? This dystopian alt-right cult version is unrecognizable and disturbing.

A healthy and strong GOP Party will lead to a more healthy and stronger Dem Party and we all would benefit if our two major parties were functioning like they were back when our choices for POTUS were people like GHWB and Clinton and Congress was able to put their partisan squabbles aside long enough to function adequately . As it is, there is no equating the two major parties during the Trump era but the Dem Party establishment has shot themselves in the foot over and over by trying to manipulate things to where they are assured of nominating a candidate that the base and donors approve of so not to rock the boat while at the same time being just good enough to beat Trump. Just good enough to beat the most awful candidate in American history is not good enough.

For the GOP it's much simpler. They went from a solid history of nominating decent and well qualified people 95% of the country could respect even if they disagreed with policy to nominating Trump for three consecutive elections. How do you go from Reagan, the Bushs, Dole, McCain, and Romney to three consecutive nominations of Trump? It's not the same party it used to be but it's still feasible for the sensible majority in the party to return back to party of Lincoln, Teddy R, Eisenhower, and Reagan after Trump is dead or incapacitated.

[Anonymous]

But they all support Project 2025 and most of Trump’s policies. They don’t support Trump because anyone with functioning eyes and a functioning brain can see that he’s deep in decline and cares for nothing but himself. But if you had Vance or DeSantis or even Haley as the nominee, with all of Trump’s/Project 2025’s policy positions, minus the dementia and sucking up to Putin … they would be tripping over themselves to fall in line.

[Anonymous]

There is no such thing as a good republican.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but we are looking for adults with intelligence and common sense back in the Repugnant party, not a bunch of rubes.

“Rubes” = middle and working class families from flyover country. Union members. Tradespeople. Firefighters. Cops. Nurses. Small business owners.


You want the old days where the republicans represented the blue blood coastal elites and big business. And lost.



Fine. You go ahead kick out all us rubes. Without us you’ll be the 10% of what the party is now. But at least you’ll get back on the cocktail party circuit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Win or lose, the old Republican Party is not coming back. No obvious leaders and more importantly very few followers for that old party.

We can all agree a republican such as Mitt Romney represented what OP characterizes as the “normal Republican Party.”

Biden told a Black audience that Mitt was “going to put Black people back in chains.”

And that is ok? Additionally, your radical identity politics, which are tearing our country apart, are ok??

Sorry dems: it was you who turned radical.

If you truly dislike trump, you have no one to blame for him but yourselves. You created his base.

"Biden told more than 800 ticketed supporters that Romney wants to repeal the financial regulations enacted after the Wall Street crash of 2008. "He's going to let the big banks once again write their own rules - unchain Wall Street!" Biden said. Then he added, "They're going to put you all back in chains" with their economic and regulatory policies."

Biden was not saying that anyone would literally be locked up with chains just like wall street isn't currently locked up in chains. It's called a metaphor. Freakin illiterate MAGA don't speak english.

Oh, so when Biden speaks on hyperbole, it’s totally understandable.

But when Trump speaks in hyperbole, it’s literal.


Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as a good republican.

Except a dead one, right? That’s the unsaid part for you, isn’t it?


We know.

[Anonymous]

Course you want McCain and Romney back. They lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Course you want McCain and Romney back. They lost.

^^^ DING DING DING ^^^


Dems LOVE loser republicans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but we are looking for adults with intelligence and common sense back in the Repugnant party, not a bunch of rubes.

“Rubes” = middle and working class families from flyover country. Union members. Tradespeople. Firefighters. Cops. Nurses. Small business owners.


You want the old days where the republicans represented the blue blood coastal elites and big business. And lost.



Fine. You go ahead kick out all us rubes. Without us you’ll be the 10% of what the party is now. But at least you’ll get back on the cocktail party circuit.

Bingo. They enjoyed being invited over to their rich lefty friends' parties as the token Republican and having spirited respectful exchanges. Now they don't get invited anymore and they aren't interested in any icky MAGAs.

[Anonymous]

I hope the normie Republicans take over the party and push MAGA to an irrelevant 3rd Party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope the normie Republicans take over the party and push MAGA to an irrelevant 3rd Party.

Didn’t John Kasich make a big announcement along these lines a few days before the election in 2016? I wonder how that effort is going. He is the son of a mailman, you know.

[Anonymous]

What would a "normal" Republican party even look like? The entire party at the national level is just a scam. Trump revealed what a scam it was, most wonderfully with the Obamacare repeal vote.

Who wants a tax cuts for the rich, foreign interventionism and a whole lot of losing?