It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous
Vote Blue no matter who!!

Closely consider the alternative.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not insulting at all. These are two of the candidates that Americans actually voted for in the two parties’ primaries.

I didn’t vote for either of the two main candidates in the primary. I will vote for one of them in the general because one of them will win. My husband will vote for a candidate that will lose.

This is our electoral process in action.


So you're voting for the person you think will win instead of the person you think has the best ideas, because that person is unlikely to win in our rigged system, and you think this is normal, functioning democracy?


Yes. It is. The data backs this up.

80% of Americans think that Biden and Trump are too old for the job, yet both won their respective primaries, Biden with a resounding victory even greater than Trump’s. That ended just a few weeks ago.

I believe that the election results are accurate and any irregularities are so small as to not affect the outcome, if there are any at all.

You think otherwise?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Vote Blue no matter who!!

Closely consider the alternative.


Exactly. There is no choice. It’s Biden or dictatorship and decline
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It's the vanity of old men, unwilling to cede any of the power they have enjoyed. Don't they realise that their legacy will be the successors they prepare to take over from them, to further the work already done?

I'm mad as hell at both of them. On the one hand we have a felon who believes he is above the law and tells outright lies just so he can tell people what they want to hear and whose questionable mental state is displayed in bizarre word salads. On the other hand we have someone bordering on senility who displays extreme selfishness by not preparing the ground for the next generation and who obviously surrounds himself with "yes-men" (and women) who aren't equipped to point out some truths.

To be fair, I look at all the other elections taking place around the world this year and the choice of other countries isn't much better. Apart from the UK, which looks like it's going to ditch a dysfunctional party to start afresh with a moderate and intelligent government.


Not sure I agree about the UK: Brexit has kneecapped them for a generation and no government can undo that disaster quickly.

But everything else, absolutely.

I think the reason why no one is asking Trump to step aside is because it’s obviously futile. He’s a narcissistic, selfish bully. Why the GOP actually support and vote for him though is beyond comprehension.

No one is asking Trump to step aside because his party by and large supports him. The Democrats, on the other hand, by and large think Biden is not fit to serve another term, but yet he still remains in the race and the people with the power in the party have been reluctant to clearly say he needs to step aside. It’s ludicrous.


Newsom's endorsement says otherwise. The alleged clamoring for Biden to step aside as claimed by "unnamed sources" turns out to be a lie.


From a poll conducted in February:

"There is a large difference in how partisans view their respective nominees -- 73% of Democrats think Biden is too old to serve but only 35% of Republicans think Trump is too old to serve. Ninety-one percent of independents think Biden is too old to serve, and 71% say the same about Trump."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-americans-on-biden-age/story?id=107126589

It is Democratic politicians who are ignoring voters out of fear for themselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vote Blue no matter who!!

Closely consider the alternative.


Exactly. There is no choice. It’s Biden or dictatorship and decline


Biden can't win
Anonymous
I actually don’t think our election system is rigged at all. Not meaningfully.

I’m not a big fan of conspiracy theories that can’t be backed up with actual evidence. I think the people screaming them are attention seekers trying to benefit personally from manufactured outrage.

Like Kamala herself. She and her inner circle are literally the only people with hair on fire about the primary results now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vote Blue no matter who!!

Closely consider the alternative.


Exactly. There is no choice. It’s Biden or dictatorship and decline


Biden can't win


He did win. That decision was made already.

Do you regret who you voted for?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vote Blue no matter who!!

Closely consider the alternative.


Exactly. There is no choice. It’s Biden or dictatorship and decline


I disagree. There will more than one name on my ballot- probably five.

I know you wish this was a dictatorship, PP, but it’s not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not insulting at all. These are two of the candidates that Americans actually voted for in the two parties’ primaries.

I didn’t vote for either of the two main candidates in the primary. I will vote for one of them in the general because one of them will win. My husband will vote for a candidate that will lose.

This is our electoral process in action.


So you're voting for the person you think will win instead of the person you think has the best ideas, because that person is unlikely to win in our rigged system, and you think this is normal, functioning democracy?


Yes. It is. The data backs this up.

80% of Americans think that Biden and Trump are too old for the job, yet both won their respective primaries, Biden with a resounding victory even greater than Trump’s. That ended just a few weeks ago.

I believe that the election results are accurate and any irregularities are so small as to not affect the outcome, if there are any at all.

You think otherwise?


Yes I think otherwise. I think you're blind to the reality that you're not making a real choice. You're choosing from the least terrible options presented to you by the establishment. You aren't voting for what you want, you're voting against what you don't want. It's obviously dysfunctional, yet you're defending it.

You can't see that it's rigged? That you have only the illusion of choice in the matter?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think our election system is rigged at all. Not meaningfully.

I’m not a big fan of conspiracy theories that can’t be backed up with actual evidence. I think the people screaming them are attention seekers trying to benefit personally from manufactured outrage.

Like Kamala herself. She and her inner circle are literally the only people with hair on fire about the primary results now.


Did you vote for Biden? Did you *want* to vote for Biden or were you voting against Trump? Do you think there were better candidates who didn't run? Do you understand *why* those candidates didn't run? Do you understand *why* you didn't even have the opportunity to vote for other legitimately qualified candidates?

Come on. You can put this together. You'll see it when you want to.
Anonymous
No such thing as a protest vote. Stomp your feet all you want but voting third party or not voting at all is exactly what our enemies want.

Vote in every election, at every level.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No such thing as a protest vote. Stomp your feet all you want but voting third party or not voting at all is exactly what our enemies want.

Vote in every election, at every level.


So again, you have no actual choice. The system is slated so much that you *have* to vote for one of the major party candidates, whether they held a real primary or not. The other party put up a felon as their candidate. Do you actually have a choice? Is this actually democracy?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not insulting at all. These are two of the candidates that Americans actually voted for in the two parties’ primaries.

I didn’t vote for either of the two main candidates in the primary. I will vote for one of them in the general because one of them will win. My husband will vote for a candidate that will lose.

This is our electoral process in action.


So you're voting for the person you think will win instead of the person you think has the best ideas, because that person is unlikely to win in our rigged system, and you think this is normal, functioning democracy?


Yes. It is. The data backs this up.

80% of Americans think that Biden and Trump are too old for the job, yet both won their respective primaries, Biden with a resounding victory even greater than Trump’s. That ended just a few weeks ago.

I believe that the election results are accurate and any irregularities are so small as to not affect the outcome, if there are any at all.

You think otherwise?


Yes I think otherwise. I think you're blind to the reality that you're not making a real choice. You're choosing from the least terrible options presented to you by the establishment. You aren't voting for what you want, you're voting against what you don't want. It's obviously dysfunctional, yet you're defending it.

You can't see that it's rigged? That you have only the illusion of choice in the matter?


I already voted for who I supported. They lost. Fair and square.

Not rigged.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think our election system is rigged at all. Not meaningfully.

I’m not a big fan of conspiracy theories that can’t be backed up with actual evidence. I think the people screaming them are attention seekers trying to benefit personally from manufactured outrage.

Like Kamala herself. She and her inner circle are literally the only people with hair on fire about the primary results now.


Did you vote for Biden? Did you *want* to vote for Biden or were you voting against Trump? Do you think there were better candidates who didn't run? Do you understand *why* those candidates didn't run? Do you understand *why* you didn't even have the opportunity to vote for other legitimately qualified candidates?

Come on. You can put this together. You'll see it when you want to.


I voted for Biden in 2020.

I voted for Dean Forrester in 2024.

You probably voted for Biden a few weeks ago, correct?

Most Democrats did.

That’s how winning and losing works.
Anonymous
Dean Philips, not Forrester. I voted for him even though I barely recognize his name.
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