I am furious. I cannot in good conscience vote for either one of them. That we are put in this position is completely unacceptable. The whole world is watching in shock and horror that this is the best that the US can offer up. |
There will be other candidates on the ballot. You and everyone else will have other options. Write-in votes count as well. Organize a 50 state operation to challenge the status quo. |
+1 complaining does nothing. What do you want to happen? Realistically? |
No it just show the decline and coming fall of the US. The “moderates” do not believe in anything but keeping the status quo. The filibuster, Supreme Court, lack of prosecution of a coupists, etc are all “compromises” constructed by “moderates”.
It is the moderates standing in opposition to reforming our broke institutions. They would rather see the country burn down vs stand up and do their jobs. |
Twenty-Fifth Amendment
Section 1 In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President. Section 2 Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress. Section 3 Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President. Section 4 Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office. |
Right, so again, regular people have no say in what happens. We have to sit on our hands and hope the Democrats will wield the power they have, even though they consistently demonstrate that they will not do anything to upset the norms. |
I cannot tell you how absolutely pissed I am that Biden is not stepping aside. It’s selfish as hell. Why didn’t he come out with his governor delegates yesterday?
None of this makes any sense to me. Biden should be doing regular live press conferences to get on top of this awful narrative. That just makes it abundantly clear that he is not up to this campaign…and that the narrative that he’s declining is absolutely true. Biden needs to resign now. |
I don’t think we as voters are blameless. |
Yep. There were a bunch of other choices in the primaries, particularly on the republican side. The voters chose the criminal. |
If you write in Nikki Haley, does your VP write in have to match? How does that work? |
Why blame this on Biden. Trump could absolutely step aside. Why aren’t you absolutely pissed he’s still running? Why aren’t you furious with the GOP? Biden resign? For flubbing a debate? He’s been a remarkable president. But let’s say he resigns now. Then what? Kamala becomes president and guess who is next in line if somewhere to happen to her? Speaker Boy Johnson! Because, you see, a new VP would need GOP approval- don’t really think McConnell will seat a new VP? Stop living in fantasy land. Learn civics, and unless your OK living in Heritage Foundations hell, get active. I’m not fighting hard for Biden to win, I’m fighting hard to keep this country a democracy. |
This is not about “flubbing a debate” PP. Let’s drop the attempted gaslighting. |
It's the vanity of old men, unwilling to cede any of the power they have enjoyed. Don't they realise that their legacy will be the successors they prepare to take over from them, to further the work already done?
I'm mad as hell at both of them. On the one hand we have a felon who believes he is above the law and tells outright lies just so he can tell people what they want to hear and whose questionable mental state is displayed in bizarre word salads. On the other hand we have someone bordering on senility who displays extreme selfishness by not preparing the ground for the next generation and who obviously surrounds himself with "yes-men" (and women) who aren't equipped to point out some truths. To be fair, I look at all the other elections taking place around the world this year and the choice of other countries isn't much better. Apart from the UK, which looks like it's going to ditch a dysfunctional party to start afresh with a moderate and intelligent government. |
I feel you OP. I despise Trump too much not to vote against him but I am so angry as well. Definitely not giving money to Democrats. They suck. |
You don't vote for VP. There is no separate place on the ballot to vote for VP |