Verdict Wednesday!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I predict not guilty.



Based on what facts exactly?

Look, Trump has skated on everything his entire life including incidents that would have been career-ending for any regular politician. Why would this time be any different?

I agree. I’ll be shocked if he’s convicted. I’m just happy he was indicted, booked, racked up huge legal fees, had to sit through the trial, couldn’t post his every thought on social media, tawdry details of his sex life were documented in court, he had to submit to someone with more authority, and he’s been under a lot of stress. I’m kind of sad the trial’s almost over.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump basically used the Chewbacca Defense, while the prosecution went into great detail and had literal receipts. This is going to be quick.

Chewbacca defense?


If you prefer a written vs a video explanation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense


OMG, I had forgot about this episode. Thanks for raising it! Practically everything Trump says in public is the "Chewbacca defense" - it don't make no sense.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The fact that the judge gave the jury the ability to select from any of three underlying "crimes" that have just been articulated at the conclusion of the trial and not unanimously agree on one - ridiculous.

Issues with this:
- The defense went to trial without knowing the underlying crime the prosecution was charging - very unconstitutional.
- The instruction that the jury does not have to agree on what happened and can choose from a menu of options - ridiculous.
- The fact that one of the crimes is a federal election crime is egregious. Bragg has no authority here. If it were a Democrat being prosecuted, you know damn well that Garland would jump on this and prevent them from prosecuting a federal law. Just look at how they have treated Texas and OK when it comes to immigration law.

This has been a sham case with an apparently corrupt judge and a corrupt DA.
Hopefully the jury will see this trial for what it is.... an attempt to eliminate a presidential nominee from election.


Womp womp. Again, try better sources than OAN and Truth Social


So, instead of debating the issues... you have chosen to attack. For the record, I don't watch OAN and don't go to Truth Social.
These are real issues.
You would think that if a prosecutor chooses to go after a former president and current presidential nominee, it would be a slam-dunk case.
This is not even a viable case. Pretty sad for Bragg. If he is not exonerated or the jury is not hung, this will be overturned on appeal. So many reasons for an appeal I have lost count.


Do you know how to count after 0?
Anonymous
The longer the verdict takes the better for Trump and our Constitutional Republic
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The longer the verdict takes the better for Trump and our Constitutional Republic


Yes, because one man is above the law in your nihilist cult.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The fact that the judge gave the jury the ability to select from any of three underlying "crimes" that have just been articulated at the conclusion of the trial and not unanimously agree on one - ridiculous.

Issues with this:
- The defense went to trial without knowing the underlying crime the prosecution was charging - very unconstitutional.
- The instruction that the jury does not have to agree on what happened and can choose from a menu of options - ridiculous.
- The fact that one of the crimes is a federal election crime is egregious. Bragg has no authority here. If it were a Democrat being prosecuted, you know damn well that Garland would jump on this and prevent them from prosecuting a federal law. Just look at how they have treated Texas and OK when it comes to immigration law.

This has been a sham case with an apparently corrupt judge and a corrupt DA.
Hopefully the jury will see this trial for what it is.... an attempt to eliminate a presidential nominee from election.


You are woefully misunderstanding the instruction.

First they need to decide if the defendant was a part of a conspiracy. Given the documentary evidence presented, the answer to that should be "yes" and it has to be unanimous.

Then, they need to decide which of, or how many of the three underlying codes, the conspirators broke. They can choose one, two or three, and the choices here need not be unanimous.

Here, maybe this will help:

Anonymous
The jury has come back with very specific questions.
* David Pecker's testimony regarding his phone conversation with Trump

* Pecker's decision not to finalize and fund the assignment of McDougal's life rights

* Pecker's testimony regarding the Trump Tower meeting

* Michael Cohen's testimony regarding the Trump Tower meeting.

Their seeking Pecker's testimony on not transferring the life rights is a good sign for the prosecution, as it evinces consciousness of guilt on Pecker's part.
Anonymous
The fact that this charge is the most that Bragg could find on Trump proves just how squeaky clean he is. Bragg campaigned on a promise to get Trump, and used all the resources of the NY DA's office to find something, and this is the best he could find? Think about this - Trump has been operating for many decades in three industries (construction, media, and politics) where corruption runs rampant. Many in the construction business in NY are Mafia connected, for heavens' sake. But all Bragg could find is a bookkeeping charge, that the federal government already looked at and declined to prosecute, and which has never been prosecuted before, against anybody. They couldn't get him on real charges like insider trading, bribery, tax evasion, etc, etc, etc., and Lord knows they looked high and low.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The fact that this charge is the most that Bragg could find on Trump proves just how squeaky clean he is. Bragg campaigned on a promise to get Trump, and used all the resources of the NY DA's office to find something, and this is the best he could find? Think about this - Trump has been operating for many decades in three industries (construction, media, and politics) where corruption runs rampant. Many in the construction business in NY are Mafia connected, for heavens' sake. But all Bragg could find is a bookkeeping charge, that the federal government already looked at and declined to prosecute, and which has never been prosecuted before, against anybody. They couldn't get him on real charges like insider trading, bribery, tax evasion, etc, etc, etc., and Lord knows they looked high and low.


Hopefully trump is not the last. Bring all the NY crooks down.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The fact that this charge is the most that Bragg could find on Trump proves just how squeaky clean he is. Bragg campaigned on a promise to get Trump, and used all the resources of the NY DA's office to find something, and this is the best he could find? Think about this - Trump has been operating for many decades in three industries (construction, media, and politics) where corruption runs rampant. Many in the construction business in NY are Mafia connected, for heavens' sake. But all Bragg could find is a bookkeeping charge, that the federal government already looked at and declined to prosecute, and which has never been prosecuted before, against anybody. They couldn't get him on real charges like insider trading, bribery, tax evasion, etc, etc, etc., and Lord knows they looked high and low.

There’s one born every minute.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The jury has come back with very specific questions.
* David Pecker's testimony regarding his phone conversation with Trump

* Pecker's decision not to finalize and fund the assignment of McDougal's life rights

* Pecker's testimony regarding the Trump Tower meeting

* Michael Cohen's testimony regarding the Trump Tower meeting.

Their seeking Pecker's testimony on not transferring the life rights is a good sign for the prosecution, as it evinces consciousness of guilt on Pecker's part.


Pecker also confirmed Trump's involvement with the conspiracy and delegating these matters to Cohen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The fact that this charge is the most that Bragg could find on Trump proves just how squeaky clean he is. Bragg campaigned on a promise to get Trump, and used all the resources of the NY DA's office to find something, and this is the best he could find? Think about this - Trump has been operating for many decades in three industries (construction, media, and politics) where corruption runs rampant. Many in the construction business in NY are Mafia connected, for heavens' sake. But all Bragg could find is a bookkeeping charge, that the federal government already looked at and declined to prosecute, and which has never been prosecuted before, against anybody. They couldn't get him on real charges like insider trading, bribery, tax evasion, etc, etc, etc., and Lord knows they looked high and low.


I guess you forgot about Trump University and the Trump Foundation.

And, there are federal and state cases against Trump and other conspirators underway.

But sure, he is squeaky clean.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The fact that this charge is the most that Bragg could find on Trump proves just how squeaky clean he is. Bragg campaigned on a promise to get Trump, and used all the resources of the NY DA's office to find something, and this is the best he could find? Think about this - Trump has been operating for many decades in three industries (construction, media, and politics) where corruption runs rampant. Many in the construction business in NY are Mafia connected, for heavens' sake. But all Bragg could find is a bookkeeping charge, that the federal government already looked at and declined to prosecute, and which has never been prosecuted before, against anybody. They couldn't get him on real charges like insider trading, bribery, tax evasion, etc, etc, etc., and Lord knows they looked high and low.


I guess you forgot about Trump University and the Trump Foundation.

And, there are federal and state cases against Trump and other conspirators underway.

But sure, he is squeaky clean.



Also, he's legally barred from operating a charity in NY because his charity was just a personal ATM. Yeah, real choir boy.
Anonymous
The jury is sending notes to acting Justice Merchan that are giving observers the impression they're not going to be able to convict. Merchan is very pissed. So pissed, in fact, he sent the jury home for the day.
Anonymous
The idea that the Trump campaign conspired with a media outlet to not only bury negative stories about him, but to plant stories about his opponent is insane to me.
Like holy hell that is so corrupt and illegal.
It’s not about the hush money.
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